Re: [NTG-context] Please fix this

2009-01-30 Thread Yue Wang
I'm impressed if any math works at all in experimental. Hans and Taco have just switched to OpenType math and the current state looks like a nightmare to me. (You can take a look at char-def.lua, math-vfu.lua and some other files. It all needs to be improved and fixed.) Yes, the math in

Re: [NTG-context] Page layout : Need help to begin

2009-01-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Antoine Cailliau antoinecaill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can also place backgrounds only on left/right pages. Ok, I'll investigate that. Is it also with overlay? Yes, overlays are used to put text, graphics etc. behind the text. You can use different

[NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread J.A.J. Pater
I'm was planning to write my master thesis in XeLaTeX until I discovered that ConTeXt can use the XeTeX engine. I need to use a lot of Hebrew - so Right to Left typing - and some linguistic glyphs and stuff. But from the wiki I understand there are still some issues with ConTeXt's

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread Yue Wang
Hi, Like the bookmarks may result in some strangeness in certain documents Can someone tell me what kind of strangeness? Many features like dvi / metapost may produce strange result. you can search the mailing list and you can find plenty of them. And XeTeX can't use certain specials and

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread J.A.J. Pater
Thanks for the answers! Especially the tip about searching the mailing list! And if not, why should (or shouldn't) I use MarkIV over XeTeX? Since XeTeX does not provide most of the LuaTeX features. Does LuaTeX support right to left utf-8 Hebrew typing with ttf/otf fonts? Would it be (much)

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:12 PM, J.A.J. Pater jajpa...@gmail.com wrote: Does LuaTeX support right to left utf-8 Hebrew typing with ttf/otf fonts? Would it be (much) more complicated than in XeTeX? LuaTeX has more features for RTL than XeTeX because it's one of the goals of the LuaTeX project.

Re: [NTG-context] Please fix this

2009-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: I'm impressed if any math works at all in experimental. Hans and Taco have just switched to OpenType math and the current state looks like a nightmare to me. (You can take a look at char-def.lua, math-vfu.lua and some other files. It all needs to be improved and fixed.) Yes,

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
J.A.J. Pater wrote: And now on this list there is a lot of talk about LuaTeX and Mark IV. So I wonder: Is it possible to use MarkIV and XeTeX engine at the same time? And if not, why should (or shouldn't) I use MarkIV over XeTeX? you could use both at the same time, but xetex uses mkii and

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
J.A.J. Pater wrote: Thanks for the answers! Especially the tip about searching the mailing list! And if not, why should (or shouldn't) I use MarkIV over XeTeX? Since XeTeX does not provide most of the LuaTeX features. Does LuaTeX support right to left utf-8 Hebrew typing with ttf/otf

[NTG-context] new experimental

2009-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, the experimental branch of the garden distribution has a prelude to the new math font subsystem - less definitions, so faster (but some things might not yet work) - unicode math (but mojca, aditya, taco and i are in the process of checking and completing the definitions) - faster

Re: [NTG-context] new experimental

2009-01-30 Thread Yue Wang
After upgrading, \chem{CO_2} still gives me: ! Font \*palatino10ptmmmrrm* has only 7 fontdimen parameters. to be read again \relax \dosetsubscript ... #1\string #2}{\the #1#2\relax }#1#2=\dimen 0\relax \dodosetsubscript

Re: [NTG-context] new experimental

2009-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: After upgrading, \chem{CO_2} still gives me: ! Font \*palatino10ptmmmrrm* has only 7 fontdimen parameters. sure, you need to wait till mojca has synced both context and luatex -

Re: [NTG-context] installing fonts pdftex

2009-01-30 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi, this http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinst did it and it actually worked quite well, thanks a lot. good to know :-) it even took care of the dashes problem. do you know how to default to old style numerals the 'osf' doesn't seem to work, and i'm certain that the font supports it.

Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-30 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hi all, Tomorrow I will try to modify my muse-tex2png.el file so it uses the pdf output of context (or texexec), then convert to make a png file, instead of dvipng: I use this already for graphics (metapost or pgf) and it will probably be a better tool. Please Mojca no hard work on dvipng until

Re: [NTG-context] setuphead question

2009-01-30 Thread Mohamed Bana
i also have a question; why can't i use different fonts in \def\myCommand#1#2{{\ss\sc #1}{\rm\sc #2}{\ss\sc\bf #1}{\rm\sc\bf #2}} \setuphead[part][command=\myCommand] the font commands are simply ignored. I don't want to have to resort to using numberstyle and textstyle. Thanks

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:29 AM, J.A.J. Pater wrote: I'm was planning to write my master thesis in XeLaTeX until I discovered that ConTeXt can use the XeTeX engine. I need to use a lot of Hebrew - so Right to Left typing - and some linguistic glyphs and stuff. But from the wiki I understand

Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and/or LuaTeX?

2009-01-30 Thread J.A.J. Pater
I've already send a mail in reply to Hans, but it was to big since I attached the TTF. I don't know if the moderator will approve of posting fonts. But it can also be found on the web: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=EzraSIL_Home So the moderator can drop my last

[NTG-context] How to capture a typeset page into a box instead of shipping it out

2009-01-30 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Hi all, I am looking for ideas of how to capture a typeset page (as it would appear in the resulting pdf output) into a box instead of actually shipping it out directly, if it is possible. I would like to take advantage of ConTeXt's layout features including layers, otherwise I would just create

Re: [NTG-context] new experimental

2009-01-30 Thread Yue Wang
Hi, Hans, please test the following formulas. All of them come from my thesis, and MKII typeset them right. MKIV produce the wrong result. I am using the nightly build from w32tex since the luatex binary in the minimals repository cannot generate the format correctly. \starttext \startformula

Re: [NTG-context] setuphead question

2009-01-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 30.01.2009 um 13:13 schrieb Mohamed Bana: i also have a question; why can't i use different fonts in \def\myCommand#1#2{{\ss\sc #1}{\rm\sc #2}{\ss\sc\bf #1}{\rm\sc\bf #2}} \setuphead[part][command=\myCommand] the font commands are simply ignored. I don't want to have to resort to