Re: [NTG-context] \FlushStep in module s-pre-50 adds too much space

2009-03-17 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 01:39, Curious Learn wrote: Okay, I have installed the minimals. It works with a file I tried without tikz. The examples on the wiki also work well. It does not work with a file that has tikz code in it. It stops compiling with ! Undefined control sequence. l.13

Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Stone
Can these thingies also be used for document version/revision control also or are they software dedicated ? If not, what's more appropriate for document version control ? Thanks in advance. Alan On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi

Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?

2009-03-17 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:33:33AM +0100, Alan Stone napisa#322;(a): Can these thingies also be used for document version/revision control also or are they software dedicated ? They are a great tool for documents, too - especially if these are plain text files (like in TeX, ConTeXt friends).

Re: [NTG-context] Problem of transfering bib to bbl in Chinese.

2009-03-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi, Wei-Wei Guo wrote: 2. The pubsep can be set in \setupcite, but it doesn't affect the separation between compressed citations. For example, I set 'pubsep={;}' and I still get (Hoekwater 2008, 2009). How to change the comma between 2008 and 2009? Can't do that. Best wishes, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi everyone, After fighting with ConTeXt one month, I find it's too difficult. I have two years experience of LaTeX. I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every step need extensive searching, reading, and asking.

Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?

2009-03-17 Thread John Devereux
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes: Hi all, to start the threat here is what I use(d). On my old Windows machines I used Subversion because it was easy to use with TortoiseSVN but since I'm on my Mac I use Mercurial for my files. I use git. Originally for programming,

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Corin Royal Drummond wrote: Many have voiced the same complaint. I understand that Hans and every one are occupied with building MKIV (aka LuaTeX), and that documentation is not their highest priority. There's the wiki, the wonderfully active mailing list, and what used to be decent docs

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Xan
En/na Corin Royal Drummond ha escrit: Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi everyone, After fighting with ConTeXt one month, I find it's too difficult. I have two years experience of LaTeX. I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every step need

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Xan wrote: En/na Corin Royal Drummond ha escrit: Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Hi everyone, After fighting with ConTeXt one month, I find it's too difficult. I have two years experience of LaTeX. I never thought ConTeXt could be so difficult. Using ConTeXt is like climbing a steep mountain, every

Re: [NTG-context] Which revision control system do you use?

2009-03-17 Thread Nikolai Weibull
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:58, John Devereux j...@devereux.me.uk wrote: I use git. Originally for programming, but it is very useful for context too. I can also recommend Git. It's fast, easy to use (no, really!), and very actively developed. What's most important about using Git, though, is

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Xan
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit: Xan wrote: Good idea. Just a suggestion. If someone starts new documentation, it should be free. Now the only documentation for users is ConTeXt manual, Context, an excursion (and some PracTeX journal and MAPS journal articles). These documents are copyrated

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Xan wrote: But should it put in every .tex file or in a LICENSE file? I'm not lawyer. Just a question. There is a COPYING in the one 'up' directory. It would be good to add a license pointer to every source file, that is true. Best wishes, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Stone
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Wei-Wei Guo wwgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Hi Wei-Wei, Please enjoy what's underneath and give yourself a second chance to reconsider your point of view... After fighting with ConTeXt one month, Those who live are those who fight. - Victor Hugo I

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-17 Thread Wei-Wei Guo
Yes, there are may fruitful pages in ConTeXt wiki. But all wiki resources have the same problem: If you know what you are looking for, it's helpful. If not, it would be a time hole. And I was told that MkIV progresses so fast that many things in the current manuals are out of date. I don't know

[NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names and splits of files -

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Stone
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to

[NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]

2009-03-17 Thread Hans van der Meer
In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable version I have seen: ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.31 13:58 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.17 Is it already fixed? Or can a quick patch be given? Hans van der Meer

[NTG-context] Problem updating Tikz in minimals

2009-03-17 Thread Curious Learn
Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com writes: When you install the minimals, add --extras=t-tikz either to first-setup.sh or run ./first-setup.sh --extras=t-tikz (Run luatools --generate afterwards.) Mojca Thanks Aditya and Mojca. Mojca, I tried running that; a lot of

Re: [NTG-context] Problem updating Tikz in minimals

2009-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 17.03.2009 um 14:33 schrieb Curious Learn: stack traceback: \directlua0:1: in main chunk. l.111 } ? h The lua interpreter ran into a problem, so the remainder of this lua chunk will be ignored. You need a recent LuaTeX. Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-17 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several changes in file names

[NTG-context] Thumbtabs on edge of pages.

2009-03-17 Thread John Culleton
Apparently this facility exists in primitive form via some special styles in LaTeX. Is there any facility for same in Context? Ideally the thumbtabs would line up with the corresponding chapter entries in the first (summary) TOC. Of course one can always cobble something up, but I am hoping

Re: [NTG-context] Thumbtabs on edge of pages.

2009-03-17 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:45 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: Apparently this facility exists in primitive form via some special styles in LaTeX. Is there any facility for same in Context?  Ideally the thumbtabs would line up with the corresponding chapter entries in the first

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table stuff - several

Re: [NTG-context] type-win.tex

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi i just added the type-win file tothe beta - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 |

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-17 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core-table stuff is renamed to tabl-table

[NTG-context] mkiv

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I want to switch to the new structure code in mkiv. This can result in some temporary problems (probably mostly commands that i forgot to port) but i need the switch in order to be able to optimize and cleanup that code. So best make a copy of your minimal. Hans

Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-17 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}] Hello Aditya, Interesting trick, thanks. But the problem is that references then ignore the dot. So \in[ref]

Re: [NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]

2009-03-17 Thread Hans van der Meer
On 17 mrt 2009, at 20:14, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 13:19, Hans van der Meer wrote: In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable version I have seen: ConTeXt ver:

Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 17.03.2009 um 20:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}] Hello Aditya, Interesting trick, thanks. But the problem

Re: [NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]

2009-03-17 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2009/3/17 Hans van der Meer: On 17 mrt 2009, at 20:14, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 13:19, Hans van der Meer wrote: In mkii this could be used to add material to metapost runs: \startMPinclusions[+] . \stopMPInclusions This stopped working in the latest stable

Re: [NTG-context] \startMPinclusions[+]

2009-03-17 Thread Hans van der Meer
Could it be the version of LuaTeX why this fails with me? I am using: This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112814, build Hans van der Meer On 17 mrt 2009, at 21:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote: 2009/3/17 Hans van der Meer: On 17 mrt 2009, at 20:14, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17,

Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-17 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 20:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 20:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl] [section={{},{.}}]

Re: [NTG-context] pinyin in context

2009-03-17 Thread Bill Long
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:23:50PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.03.2009 um 17:17 schrieb Bill Long: The pinyin has 5 kind of tone for one pronunciation. As it's hard to input, and in CJK 1,2,3,4 are use to represent the tone, (the fifth is no special tone mark). In the book for

Re: [NTG-context] pinyin in context

2009-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
wolf-newjap.tex Description: Binary data wolf-jap.tex Description: Binary data js-ruby.tex Description: Binary data Am 17.03.2009 um 22:22 schrieb Bill Long: In fact, 2 features I need, 1. the easy way to support PinYin, both input and the format, As I mentioned, I hope the pinyin

[NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Stone
Ahoi, Following a previous discussion, I've been advised to try to avoid \switchtobodyfont and use \definedfont or \definefont instead. (1) What's the difference between \definefont and \definedfont ? (2) In the underneath example... (2a) how to implement \define(d)font for font switching ?

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote: Ahoi, Following a previous discussion, I've been advised to try to avoid \switchtobodyfont and use \definedfont or \definefont instead. what is better depends on the situation - for a structured document using \switchtobodyfont is ok - for special layout elements (headers,

Re: [NTG-context] Let's Polish the math!

2009-03-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 20:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 20:12 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Also, we put periods after section numbers, so no 1.2 Section, but rather 1.2. Section. \setuplabeltext [pl]

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: - for a structured document using \switchtobodyfont is ok What do you mean with structured document? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to

[NTG-context] Step wise presentation.

2009-03-17 Thread Curious Learn
Currently what is the best solution for presentation with steps in Context that works with the stable version of MKIV. The one that you can get with ./first-setup.sh --context=current If I need to install any addon module for your recommendation (i.e., if it does not come with minimals), kindly

[NTG-context] TeXshop instructions on Context Minimals (Mac installation)

2009-03-17 Thread Curious Learn
Hello, I installed the stable version of Context Minimals and then followed the instructions given on the Context Minimals/Mac Installation page. When I choose ConTeXt-MKIV as my engine and try to typeset the document I get the following error.