Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:


Dear gang,
[mkiv only]

What is the best available math font for use with Pagella/Palatino?


The math fonts compatible with Palatino are px math and math paza ConTeXt 
only has support for px math.


[Hint: 
it's not LM] I had to roll my own typescript so what I need to fill in is the 
commented line below


\definetypeface [pagella_ar] [rm] [serif] [pagella_arabic] % [pagella_arabic]
% \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math]  [palatino]   [default]

Uncommenting the above gives me an incomplete math font



Currently, no math font in mkiv is "complete". Which specific glyphs are 
missing for you?


The easiest opiton is to use asana math, which is an otf math font based 
on px fonts.


\starttypescript [math] [asana] [name]
\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [name:Asana-Math] 
[features=math\mathsizesuffix]
\stoptypescript

and then

\definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math]  [asana]   [default]


that does not look good. Any ideas on getting this right?


I also find px math ugly (although I did use it for my thesis). math pazo 
is not much better, it uses most of the symbols from cm. There is a 
commerical math from micropress that is supposed to be compatible with 
palatino, but I have never used it myself.



Is there an otf euler option?


No. Also keep in mind that euler is no where close to being a complete 
math font. Mkii used a virtual font that took missing symbols from px 
math and cm.


I have a local half baked support for Euler, which uses missing symbols 
from iwona. I can send the patch if you want to experiment with it.


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \digits

2009-06-18 Thread richard . stephens
>> I am using mkiv beta (14-Jun-09) and the \digits command does not like
the
>> decimal point. Any suggestions?

> a lpeg grammar ?
>
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I'm sorry, I don't understand.
Does anybody else have this problem, or is it just me?

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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Johan Sandblom
>> Is there an otf euler option?
>
> No. Also keep in mind that euler is no where close to being a complete math
> font. Mkii used a virtual font that took missing symbols from px math and
> cm.
>
> I have a local half baked support for Euler, which uses missing symbols from
> iwona. I can send the patch if you want to experiment with it.


I would love that as well. Is it on the wiki?

Johan


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \digits

2009-06-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM,  wrote:

> >> I am using mkiv beta (14-Jun-09) and the \digits command does not like
> the
> >> decimal point. Any suggestions?
>
> > a lpeg grammar ?
> >
> > --
> > luigi
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand.
>
lpeg is  parsing expression gramma , a "tool" like regular expressions  but
more powerful
(see ttp://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg/)
and is included in context mkiv (so it works only with  luatex ) ;
see l-lpeg.lua  .
For an example see l-number.lua  (I hope , I have an old mkiv release) .



Does anybody else have this problem, or is it just me?
>
Can you post a little snippet of your problem ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \digits

2009-06-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM,  wrote:

> >> I am using mkiv beta (14-Jun-09) and the \digits command does not like
> the
> >> decimal point. Any suggestions?
>
> > a lpeg grammar ?
> >
> > --
> > luigi
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand.
>
lpeg is  parsing expression gramma , a "tool" like regular expressions  but
more powerful
(see ttp://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg/)
and is included in context mkiv (so it works only with  luatex ) ;
see l-lpeg.lua  .
For an example see l-number.lua  (I hope , I have an old mkiv release) .



Does anybody else have this problem, or is it just me?
>
Can you post a little snippet of your problem ?

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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Johan Sandblom wrote:


Is there an otf euler option?


No. Also keep in mind that euler is no where close to being a complete math
font. Mkii used a virtual font that took missing symbols from px math and
cm.

I have a local half baked support for Euler, which uses missing symbols from
iwona. I can send the patch if you want to experiment with it.



I would love that as well. Is it on the wiki?


http://github.com/adityam/context-math/commit/ba9c49b5ac7c19900d851c1bcbbde599f672acd4

Keep in mind that this is/was an experiment. I am still trying to 
understand how to create virtual fonts on the fly. In order to use this, 
you need


\starttypescript [math][euler][all]
\definefontsynonym[mathroman][eu...@euler-math]
\loadmapfile[original-ams-euler.map]
\loadmapfile[iwona-ex.map]
\loadmapfile[iwona-sy.map]
\stoptypescript

then

\definetypescript[whatever][mm][euler][default][text=rm]

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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد

Hi Aditya,

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:03:44 -0600, Aditya Mahajan   
wrote:



The math fonts compatible with Palatino are px math and math paza ConTeXt
only has support for px math.


ok, good to know... [I rarely use math these past few years]


[Hint:
it's not LM] I had to roll my own typescript so what I need to fill in  
is the

commented line below

\definetypeface [pagella_ar] [rm] [serif] [pagella_arabic] %  
[pagella_arabic]

% \definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math]  [palatino]   [default]

Uncommenting the above gives me an incomplete math font



Currently, no math font in mkiv is "complete". Which specific glyphs are
missing for you?


\alpha


The easiest opiton is to use asana math, which is an otf math font based
on px fonts.

\starttypescript [math] [asana] [name]
 \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [name:Asana-Math]  
[features=math\mathsizesuffix]

\stoptypescript

and then

\definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math]  [asana]   [default]


LuaTeX warning (file  
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2  
Charstring Parser: Unknown charstring operator: 0x00


!LuaTeX error (file  
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2  
Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=0)

 ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

Have any of you run into this before?

If this is a showstopper, then a fallback will have to do. Have any of you  
made fallbacks for math fonts? Are there any subtleties compared to  
regular fonts? What is the unicode slot for math \alpha?



that does not look good. Any ideas on getting this right?


I also find px math ugly (although I did use it for my thesis). math pazo
is not much better, it uses most of the symbols from cm. There is a
commerical math from micropress that is supposed to be compatible with
palatino, but I have never used it myself.


Is there an otf euler option?


No. Also keep in mind that euler is no where close to being a complete
math font. Mkii used a virtual font that took missing symbols from px
math and cm.

I have a local half baked support for Euler, which uses missing symbols
from iwona. I can send the patch if you want to experiment with it.


Thanks! time is very short, although I like Euler and think it would work  
for palatino... maybe we need to get the gyre people on it for the  
future:-)


Best wishes
Idris

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with "fontdata.cache" being set to "no" in font-def.lua

2009-06-18 Thread Hans Hagen

Yanrui Li wrote:


1. insert glue between Chinese glyph nodes for linebreak


there is a mechanism for that already


2. reduce the spaces between Chinese punctuations


this is on the todlist (once we have fonts and time)


3. process protruding of punctuations which appear in margin.


this is already possible

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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:03:44 -0600, Aditya Mahajan   
wrote:



What is the best available math font for use with Pagella/Palatino?


The math fonts compatible with Palatino are px math and math paza ConTeXt
only has support for px math.


Turns out that cambria is preset in mkiv and works, so I'll use that for  
now. I filed a report about the asana error so hopefully that will be  
solved as well.


[I use math so little I had completely forgotten about cambria].

Thanks, Aditya!

Best wishes
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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:


The easiest opiton is to use asana math, which is an otf math font based
on px fonts.

\starttypescript [math] [asana] [name]
\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [name:Asana-Math] 
[features=math\mathsizesuffix]

\stoptypescript

and then

\definetypeface [pagella_ar] [mm] [math]  [asana]   [default]


LuaTeX warning (file 
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2 
Charstring Parser: Unknown charstring operator: 0x00


!LuaTeX error (file 
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2 
Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=0)

==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

Have any of you run into this before?


No. I am using the minimals from 2009.05.26, and asana math works fine. 
Are you using the latest version of the font from 
http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/asyropoulos/219


If this is a showstopper, then a fallback will have to do. Have any of you 
made fallbacks for math fonts? Are there any subtleties compared to regular 
fonts? What is the unicode slot for math \alpha?


Basic greek should work in math. I cannot get the latest minimals right 
now (slow internet connection), but px math and lm math use the same code 
to generate virtual fonts, so px math should work in the latest minimals.


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[NTG-context] Lots of problems in mkiv

2009-06-18 Thread richard . stephens

I've recently started using mkiv because of the fonts, but I have found
lots of things that don't work.
The trouble is, I don't know if it's just me, or whether I need to go back
to mkii until things settle down.

Can someone, PLEASE, tell me if they get any of the following problems with
mkiv (I've included code snippets):
Everything below works perfectly in mkii.

1) References to equations appear as '??' in the final document

\placeformula[eq:pythag]
\startformula
a^2 = b^2 + c^2
\stopformula
Pythagoras proposed \in{equation}[eq:pythag].


2) References to footnotes appear as '??' inside
\startlocalfootnotes...\stoplocalfootnotes

\startlocalfootnotes
This has a note.\footnote[fn]{Footnote.}
See note \note[fn].
\stoplocalfootnotes

3) References to sections are repeated (e.g. reference to section 1 appears
as '11' or ref to section 1.1 appears as '1.11.1')

\section[sec:one]{Section one}
It was in \in{section}[sec:one].

4) \digits command falls over at periods or commas with "\textfont1 is
undefined (character 58)."

\digits{1.6}

5) \infull command does not work for abbreviations: falls over with
"Missing } inserted."

\abbreviation {KF} {Kalman filter}
Rudolph Kalman invented the \infull{KF}.


Please help!!

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[NTG-context] Example of passing unexpanded text between \startfoo ... \stopfoo into Lua?

2009-06-18 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
Hi Hans and others,

I've been searching the mailing list and source code for one or more
examples of passing unexpanded text appearing between a \startfoo ...
\stopfoo block into Lua, but without luck. Is there such an example you
could point me to?

A colleague and I are experimenting with strategies to implement a literate
programming module for ConTeXt, and we'd like to have something like

\startcodeblock[language=c,file=foo.c, etc.][blockname]
// This is the main routine...
int main()
{
   return 0;
}
\stopcodeblock

We would appreciate any thoughts you have about how to implement such a
module.

Thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] Example of passing unexpanded text between \startfoo ... \stopfoo into Lua?

2009-06-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 18.06.2009 um 18:21 schrieb Kevin D. Robbins:


Hi Hans and others,

I've been searching the mailing list and source code for one or more  
examples of passing unexpanded text appearing between a  
\startfoo ... \stopfoo block into Lua, but without luck. Is there  
such an example you could point me to?



Something like this (if not give us more information)?

\def\startcodeblock
  {\begingroup
   \setcatcodetable\luacatcodes
   \dodoubleempty\dostartcodeblock}

\long\def\dostartcodeblock[#1][#2]#3\stopcodeblock
  {\modulecode{literateprogramming.codeblock([==[#3]==])}%
   \endgroup}

\startmodulecode

literateprogramming = literateprogramming or { }

function literateprogramming.codeblock(content)
global.print(content)
end

\stopmodulecode

\starttext

\startcodeblock[language=c,file=foo.c, etc.][blockname]
// This is the main routine...
int main()
{
   return 0;
}
\stopcodeblock

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Lots of problems in mkiv

2009-06-18 Thread Thomas Floeren
2009/6/18, richard.steph...@converteam.com :
>
> I've recently started using mkiv because of the fonts, but I have found
> lots of things that don't work.
> The trouble is, I don't know if it's just me, or whether I need to go back
> to mkii until things settle down.
>
> Can someone, PLEASE, tell me if they get any of the following problems with
> mkiv (I've included code snippets):
> Everything below works perfectly in mkii.
>
> 1) References to equations appear as '??' in the final document
>
> \placeformula[eq:pythag]
> \startformula
> a^2 = b^2 + c^2
> \stopformula
> Pythagoras proposed \in{equation}[eq:pythag].
>
>
> 2) References to footnotes appear as '??' inside
> \startlocalfootnotes...\stoplocalfootnotes
>
> \startlocalfootnotes
> This has a note.\footnote[fn]{Footnote.}
> See note \note[fn].
> \stoplocalfootnotes
>
> 3) References to sections are repeated (e.g. reference to section 1 appears
> as '11' or ref to section 1.1 appears as '1.11.1')
>
> \section[sec:one]{Section one}
> It was in \in{section}[sec:one].
>
> 4) \digits command falls over at periods or commas with "\textfont1 is
> undefined (character 58)."
>
> \digits{1.6}
>
> 5) \infull command does not work for abbreviations: falls over with
> "Missing } inserted."
>
> \abbreviation {KF} {Kalman filter}
> Rudolph Kalman invented the \infull{KF}.
>
>
> Please help!!
>
> Richard
>
>


Same thing here with 1,3,4,5.
2 works fine.

I've noticed also 3 problems since I switched to MKIV:

a) Floatcaptions are no longer placed:

\externalfigure[dummy]
\placefloatcaption[figure]{blabla}

b) \start...\stopregister results in an error:

hmmpf\startregister[index][identifier]{Hmmpf}\page[yes]
\dorecurse{2}{hmmpf\page[yes]}
hmmpf\stopregister[index][identifier]\page[yes]
\placeregister[index][compress=no]

c) I'm not able to build caption numbers with the chapter number as prefix:
I want for example "Fig. 2.6" where "2" is the chapter number and "6"
the figure number by chapter. I tried all the options I found for
setupcaptions (at least I think so), but I dont get the chapter number
in the caption.


LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.5-2009061123 (Web2C 2009)
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.06.14 21:01 MKIV  fmt: 2009.6.18


Thanks in advance for any hint

Greetings
Tom
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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:06:07 -0600, Aditya Mahajan   
wrote:



LuaTeX warning (file
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2
Charstring Parser: Unknown charstring operator: 0x00

!LuaTeX error (file
C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/data/asana/Asana-Math.otf): Type2
Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=0)
==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

Have any of you run into this before?


No. I am using the minimals from 2009.05.26, and asana math works fine.
Are you using the latest version of the font from
http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/asyropoulos/219


seems the same date as

http://www.ctan.org/get/fonts/Asana-Math/Asana-Math.otf

+

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009061016

I reported this to Taco so we'll see what he says...

If this is a showstopper, then a fallback will have to do. Have any of  
you
made fallbacks for math fonts? Are there any subtleties compared to  
regular

fonts? What is the unicode slot for math \alpha?


Basic greek should work in math. I cannot get the latest minimals right
now (slow internet connection), but px math and lm math use the same code
to generate virtual fonts, so px math should work in the latest minimals.


Using the predefined

[mm] [math] [palatino]

You can test these formulas in px-math:

\starttext
\startformula
Y=AK^{\alpha{}}L^{1-\alpha{}} \eqno(1)
\stopformula

\startformula
y-l=a+\alpha(k-l) \eqno(2)
\stopformula

\startformula
a = (y-l) - \alpha{} (k-l) \eqno(3)
\stopformula

\startformula
A = (3-7)-(0.3) (5-3) = 3.4
\stopformula

\alpha{}
\stoptext

Best wishes
Idris

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International Journal of Shi`i Studies
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Colorado State University
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[NTG-context] On creating my own fonts

2009-06-18 Thread Maurí­cio

I've been doing some searching on how to create my own fonts. If
possible, I would like to be able to write my own program to
at least draw glyphs, even if I have to resort to other tools
to describe hinting, kerning and ligatures.

My current knowledge is this. I read that OpenType fonts are
actually Type 1 fonts embedded in an archive. So I used this
't1disasm' tool I found after wikipedia article on postscript
fonts and used it to decode one of ConTeXt minimal distribution
font file into a nice to read text file that looks like the
transcript below, and it seems to be something I could easily
understand if I find a reference.

I would like to ask you if I'm in the proper direction. There
are some issues I can't understand, like how can I make OpenType
fonts out of Type 1 fonts when the later are supposed to only
contain 256 characters (aren't they?). Or how to understand
this text file format so I can write my own glyphs.

Do you think I'm in the right direction. Do you think there's
an easier or better way if I want to create fonts without
using existing graphical tools?

Thanks,
Maurício



Converted file excerpt:

(...)

/char03 {
-25 625 hsbw
-64 21 hstem
564 -20 hstem
0 175 vstem
150 -64 rmoveto
14 11 12 13 hvcurveto
246 vlineto
462 -267 rlineto
4 -2 4 -2 5 0 rrcurveto
9 0 8 5 5 8 rrcurveto
2 3 1 5 0 4 rrcurveto
578 vlineto
0 4 -1 4 -2 4 rrcurveto
-5 8 -8 5 -9 0 rrcurveto
-5 0 -4 -2 -3 -2 rrcurveto
-463 -267 rlineto
246 vlineto
13 -11 12 -14 vhcurveto
-125 hlineto
-14 -11 -12 -13 hvcurveto
-578 vlineto
-13 11 -12 14 vhcurveto
closepath
endchar
} ND
/char04 {
(...)

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Re: [NTG-context] Suggestion

2009-06-18 Thread Yue Wang
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Arun Dev wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>     You can increase the popularity of ConTeXt by eliminating the need
> to install Perl and Ruby.
>

MKIV does not dependent on Perl and Ruby.
I think Hans has plan to convert the MKII scripts to Lua language.


Anyway, I highly respect the ConTeXt and LuaTeX's work.
But if Taco and Hans can :

- use a proper regexp library (like lrexlib?), not the silly lpeg
- make font loading faster (by massive fontforge change or replace it
with ft2+libotf. we need more efficient solution esp for big fonts)
- support TeX line-break-like page break
- support arbitrary text-flow maybe via mplib (example: The ultimate
(?) float problem + How could a typesetting system be today? on
mailing list )
- make processing conditional-aware (see "two newbie questions about
conditional processing" on the mailing list)
- fix the bug of focus=standard
- more powerful multi columns (maybe not through gird typesetting?)
- full support of xslt:)

Things might be a lot better...


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Re: [NTG-context] math and palatino

2009-06-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:


Basic greek should work in math. I cannot get the latest minimals right
now (slow internet connection), but px math and lm math use the same code
to generate virtual fonts, so px math should work in the latest minimals.


Using the predefined

[mm] [math] [palatino]

You can test these formulas in px-math:

\starttext
\startformula
Y=AK^{\alpha{}}L^{1-\alpha{}} \eqno(1)
\stopformula

\startformula
y-l=a+\alpha(k-l) \eqno(2)
\stopformula

\startformula
a = (y-l) - \alpha{} (k-l) \eqno(3)
\stopformula

\startformula
A = (3-7)-(0.3) (5-3) = 3.4
\stopformula

\alpha{}
\stoptext


I see. There is indeed something wrong with both px-math and tx-math, but 
I cannot see why it is behaving differently. In math-vfu.lua, if you 
replace pxmi.tfm with lmmi10.tfm and regenerate formats, greek in math 
works, so it is something specific with the font.


Hans, Taco: Any idea what is happening here? Minimal test file

\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext $\alpha \beta$ \stoptext

Idris: For greek outside the math mode, you should use \greekalpha etc, 
which works with palatino.


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Re: [NTG-context] Suggestion

2009-06-18 Thread luigi scarso
>
>
> Anyway, I highly respect the ConTeXt and LuaTeX's work.
> But if Taco and Hans can :
>
> - use a proper regexp library (like lrexlib?), not the silly lpeg

PEG are not silly at all. PEG *include* regex, but not viceversa,
and it seems to have the same power of  CFG, so you can build a parser for
pratically anything
(and you can not do this with regex) .
Perhaps the reverse sentence has more sense: drop the "silly" (?) regex, use
the new peg.
For what I know the reverse side of lpeg is that a file must be loaded in
memory completly.

- more powerful multi columns (maybe not through gird typesetting?)
>
Maybe columnset can do  more, or we need more examples from hans .


- full support of xslt:)
>
why not xquery too? Are mkiv  supposed to be a full  xml processor ?
A bit of xslt can be done with lpeg (and not regex),
but usually  it's better to prepare a xml to typeset before processing with
mkiv
("use the right tool for the right task").


> Things might be a lot better...
>
and worse too .
Things are now a lot better than before ,IMMO .


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