Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 03:50:27 Curiouslearn wrote: I hope (and this perhaps has nothing to do with the brilliant Context development team) is that journals start accepting Context files. While I use context for my personal and class notes, for articles I am still forced to go to latex

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?:

2010-02-09 Thread Robert Blackstone
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 09:29 PM, David Rogers) wrote: ConTeXt itself has beautiful support for side-by-side translations. It makes me happy every time I look at the results. But... it works only on separate pages. Making it work on columns as well would make my life easier. (May be

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread John Haltiwanger
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr wrote: On Tuesday 09 February 2010 03:50:27 Curiouslearn wrote: I hope (and this perhaps has nothing to do with the brilliant Context development team) is that journals start accepting Context files. While I use context for

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 03:50, schrieb Curiouslearn: Nice thread. Thanks for starting this Wolfgang. First of all, Context is great and I love it. I think I miss the geometry package of the latex. It makes setting margins very easy. I think setting margins (left, right, top and bottom) could be easier in

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 6:53, Otared Kavian wrote: Now, that said, I do all my presentations with ConTeXt, and there is one thing which should be added for more ease of use: a stepwise procedure which can do better than the RawSteps module I use (see http://wiki.contextgarden..net/RawSteps), and which

[NTG-context] Footnotes in columns causing layout problem

2010-02-09 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi, I’m trying it again. The problem with footnotes in multicolumn texts is still present. (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100201.222309.2f37f55a.en.html) \setupnote[footnote][location=lastcolumn] % - causes layout problem \definecolumnset[two][n=2] \enablemode[twocolumns] %

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Vedran Miletić
2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Ability to change math

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 13:09, schrieb Vedran Miletić: Ability to change math font to modern sans serif. I don't know how to do it in LaTeX, but I know it's possible because beamer does it. In MkIV something like \unprotect \appendtoks \dosetfontattribute\??mo\c!style \to \everymathematics

Re: [NTG-context] svg - png conversion

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 14:40, Peter Münster wrote: Hello, How can I convert svg to png on the fly? I've created a file test.rlx: ?xml version='1.0 standalone='yes'? rl:manipulators rl:manipulator name='png' suffix='svg' rl:oldrl:value name='path'//rl:value name='file'

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 0:40, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0823:20:17, Hans Hagen wrote: On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: That was it, sorry, I reinstalled minimals and LuaTeX recently and forgot to update ConTeXt. Now the file is processed and I get a pdf file containing the words sortkeys: n id entry and an hrule beneath that. As

Re: [NTG-context] disable hyphenation inside \type

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 2:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hi, Is is possible to disable hyphenation inside \type? hm, is it on then? some oscilating bug .. taco and i need to look into it (luatex language related trickery) Hans -

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-02-09 15:04:16, Hans Hagen wrote: are those two files present and can they be found? \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][tugboat.bib] \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][komoedie.bib] They were present but somehow minimals don't use the TeXlive tree, so had to symlink them and it's working

[NTG-context] \insertcrossref

2010-02-09 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hi all, is there any way to get \insertcrossref to get the title or the short title of the crossref'd publication, too? Right now it only retrieves author/editor name and the year but that doesn't suffice for some bibliography specifications. Thanks, Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 15:27, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0915:04:16, Hans Hagen wrote: are those two files present and can they be found? \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][tugboat.bib] \registerbibtexfile [somebibtex][komoedie.bib] They were present but somehow minimals don't use the TeXlive tree,

Re: [NTG-context] \insertcrossref

2010-02-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi all, is there any way to get \insertcrossref to get the title or the short title of the crossref'd publication, too? Right now it only retrieves author/editor name and the year but that doesn't suffice for some bibliography specifications. \insertcrossref simply

Re: [NTG-context] Adding Items to Bibliography

2010-02-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Philipp Gesang wrote: Hi all, yesterday I tried to use some BibTeX bibliography that I made earlier for use with biblatex but I very soon ended up converting a garbled .bbl to proper \[start|stop]publication format. So my first question is, whether this, without BibTeX, is the canonical way

Re: [NTG-context] stepper

2010-02-09 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hi Hans, Trying out of curiosity your script, I cannot get two things: 1) What is stepper (it is related somehow to presentations, but what is it specifically?) 2) The script produces 11 pages with titles, but no bla-bla is seen on either page. Why? \usemodule[pre-60] % use the stepper

Re: [NTG-context] stepper

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 16:29, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Hi Hans, Trying out of curiosity your script, I cannot get two things: 1) What is stepper (it is related somehow to presentations, but what is it specifically?) 2) The script produces 11 pages with titles, but no bla-bla is seen on either

Re: [NTG-context] stepper

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 16:29, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hi Hans, Trying out of curiosity your script, I cannot get two things: 1) What is stepper (it is related somehow to presentations, but what is it specifically?) a click and show next piece of text at http://www.luatex.org/documentation.html

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang 1. While TeX has been very strong at typesetting math traditionally its rivals

Re: [NTG-context] stepper

2010-02-09 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Add \setupinteraction[state=start,click=off] to your file and open the PDF with Adobe Reader. Thanks, Wolfgang! It works this way. But I wonder why itemization level is increased every page. Is is intended to be so? Thanks for teaching me usage of steppers. Vyatcheslav

Re: [NTG-context] stepper

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 17:36, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: But I wonder why itemization level is increased every page. Is is intended to be so? Look at your code: \StartSteps \startitemize[packed] \startitemize Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 17:31, schrieb Oliver Buerschaper: 3. I'd very much like to second Alan's suggestion to provide containers for text to flow in and out! Perhaps one could even go further and root ConTeXt entire page model in such an approach. After all, it's just text flowing in and out of pages

Re: [NTG-context] floatrow

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 23:18, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 23:07 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 8-2-2010 22:16, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 19:42 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 8-2-2010 18:52, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: thanks for the hint with \defineexternalfigure… - indeed

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 12:55, Peter Münster wrote: On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial

Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes in columns causing layout problem

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 11:45, Andreas Harder wrote: Hi, I’m trying it again. The problem with footnotes in multicolumn texts is still present. (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100201.222309.2f37f55a.en.html) \setupnote[footnote][location=lastcolumn] %- causes layout problem

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? An implementation of Unicode

Re: [NTG-context] xml entities and trailing space

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7-2-2010 22:19, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: \startbuffer[xmltest] pAtextbar; B/p \stopbuffer \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{p}{xml:*} \stopxmlsetups \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups} \startxmlsetups xml:p \xmlflush{#1} \par \stopxmlsetups

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 18:50, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX

Re: [NTG-context] xml entities and trailing space

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: this is not that easy as effectively Atextbar; B becomes A\textbar B and tex will normally gobble that space as part of parsing the input and changing that aspect will not happen chicken or egg so use:

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? - Stable underlining across line- and

Re: [NTG-context] xml entities and trailing space

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:04, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: this is not that easy as effectively Atextbar; B becomes A\textbar B and tex will normally gobble that space as part of parsing the input and changing that aspect will not happen chicken or egg so

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Kevin D. Robbins
I dream of a flexible changebar module (similar to the LaTeX changebar package) with Lua drivers so I can run something like: context --mark-changes foo1 foo2 to produce a (possibly mangled) output TeX file that when built produces a PDF with changebars in the margin,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:21, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: I dream of a flexible changebar module (similar to the LaTeX changebar package) with Lua drivers so I can run something like: context --mark-changes foo1 foo2 to produce a (possibly mangled) output TeX file that when built produces a PDF with

[NTG-context] showlayoutcomponents: amazing!

2010-02-09 Thread Otared Kavian
On 9 févr. 2010, at 13:47, Hans Hagen wrote: […] now you know this trick ... try \showlayoutcomponents in a regular document (also quite old mechnaism already) another nice feature, which was unknown to me until now! (I assume that one has to view the PDF in Acrobat Reader). Thanks:

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 06:56:05PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: On 9-2-2010 18:50, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang What I would really

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 19:45, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: What I would really like is an automatic composer, one that would write my papers, books and documentation for me. minimal example: \startext \composebook [title=My best selling novel] \stoptext (notice that the title is optional) However, it

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:45, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Salaam, Khaled, On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:55 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: IIRC, I reported all of that months ago but I usually get no answer. Are you sure about that? A quick check shows answers...eg

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 12:12:00PM -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Salaam, Khaled, On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:55 -0700, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: IIRC, I reported all of that months ago but I usually get no answer. Are you sure about that? A quick

[NTG-context] Where did page numbers go?

2010-02-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello Hans, \currentpage (as already reported by Peter Münster) doesn't work in MKIV (always returns 1) and \setnumber[page]{0} has zero effect (in MKII; in MKIV I cannot test it anyway). Thanks, Mojca ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:50, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: %D For Mojca: %D %D \starttyping %D \def\simplethesis %D {\setupsystem[random=1234] %D \title{\fakewords{3}{4}} %D \placelist[chapter,section] %D \dorecurse{6} %D {\chapter{\fakewords{5}{10}} %D \dorecurse{5} %D {\section{\fakewords{2}{5}} %D

Re: [NTG-context] Where did page numbers go?

2010-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 09.02.10 20:36, schrieb Mojca Miklavec: Hello Hans, \currentpage (as already reported by Peter Münster) doesn't work in MKIV (always returns 1) and \setnumber[page]{0} has zero effect (in MKII; in MKIV I cannot test it anyway). \pagenumber? MkIV has no counter 'page' but 'realpage',

Re: [NTG-context] Where did page numbers go?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 20:36, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello Hans, \currentpage (as already reported by Peter Münster) doesn't work in MKIV (always returns 1) and \setnumber[page]{0} has zero effect (in MKII; in MKIV I cannot test it anyway). hm, i'll have a look at it why cannot you run mkiv ... a broken

[NTG-context] \showmathcharacters problems with TeXlive 2009 on Win 7 64bit

2010-02-09 Thread commb07
hi i'm on Win 7 64bit and have installed TeXlive 2009 today via the net-installer. i can process context-files, but have some problems: i get pdftex warning: pdftex.exe: no glyphtounicode entry has been inserted yet if i use the command \showmathcharacters, and the table in the pdf is empty. in

Re: [NTG-context] \insertcrossref

2010-02-09 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-02-09 16:01:41, Taco Hoekwater wrote: \insertcrossref simply runs \cite internally, so whatever \cite fetches is what you get. However, there is no \cite[title] command, so altering \cite will not work. Luckily, \insertcrossref is short, so maybe this will work: \usemodule[bib]

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9-2-2010 19:50, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: %D For Mojca: %D %D \starttyping %D \def\simplethesis %D {\setupsystem[random=1234] %D \title{\fakewords{3}{4}} %D \placelist[chapter,section] %D \dorecurse{6} %D

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 09.02.10 19:45, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: What I would really like is an automatic composer, one that would write my papers, books and documentation for me. minimal example:  \startext  \composebook

Re: [NTG-context] \showmathcharacters problems with TeXlive 2009 on Win 7 64bit

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 21:03, comm...@googlemail.com wrote: hi i'm on Win 7 64bit and have installed TeXlive 2009 today via the net-installer. best try an independent minimal, not combined with tex live http://minimals.contextgarden.net/texlive/beta/archive/00texlive.config.tar.xz did not succeed,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 19:07, Martin Schröder wrote: 2010/2/8 Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? -

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Feb 09 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: Thanks for the link, I failed to use it, as I have a ConTeXt/luaTeX versions distributed by ubuntu/jaunty, which seems to be too old. I should update and give it a try -- later. Hello Sebastien, Anyway, it was not the latest version. In the

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/2/9 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: however, underlining is not really part of fine typography I know. But it's hard to do right in TeX (see the troubles soul.sty brings) and people are used to it. - Document-global optimization of page breaks. Of course with floats,   multicol and parshapes.

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9-2-2010 23:30, Peter Münster wrote: In the current version of MKIV, there is no support for language-specifics, so there is actually no support for switching back from French to another language. in mkiv language specific features are and will be part of the mechanisms themselves (and

Re: [NTG-context] \insertcrossref

2010-02-09 Thread Philipp Gesang
It works this way: \let\cref\@@p...@crossref \getcitedata[title][\cref] to \MYtitle% Thanks very much, this saves me a lot of work. Best regards Philipp pgpmxLve5edwn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 23:30:56 Peter Münster wrote: Yes. I attach a recent t-french.tex file, that supports most of frenchb. \usemodule[french] Should not these rules automatically come into play through \mainlanguage[fr] rather than as a module? Also (for Hans), lang-ita.tex needs