Re: [NTG-context] section numbers in margin eventually get placed too far left
On 2013–09–17 Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: > Is this a bug, or just a change in setuphead that I didn't take > account of? It is a bug. ConTeXt sometimes uses the rightmargindistance for the left margin, which would be correct for a double sided layout, but is definitely wrong for a single sided document. However, even in a double sided layout the calculations are not correct. Here a smaller example. Note that the output is wrong either way, with \setuppagenumbering commented out or not. %% \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \setuplayout[rightmargindistance=1cm] \setuphead[section][alternative=inmargin] \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{16}{\section{Blah} \input tufte} \stoptext Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] section numbers in margin eventually get placed too far left
This test file == \setuplayout[leftmargindistance=0.125in, leftmargin=0.625in, width=4.75in, rightmargindistance=0.25in, rightmargin=0.25in] \setuphead[section][alternative=inmargin] \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{6}{\section{Blah} \input tufte } \stoptext == asks for section numbers in the left margin, separated from the section title by the leftmargindistance. It works fine for the first four sections. But sections 5 and 6 (on page 2) have the section number shifted further left from the correct position by roughly 10pt or so. It seems very sensitive to the layout. If I change the leftmargindistance to 0.25in, the section numbers are all placed correctly. I noticed the problem on my default context version: ConTeXt ver: 2013.05.28 00:36 MKIV current [from the Debian TL2013 pkgs] It also happens with the live ConTeXt and with vanilla TL2013. (Though it works fine with MKII.) Is this a bug, or just a change in setuphead that I didn't take account of? -Sanjoy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between base and third
I think base are the basic TeX fonts, probably Computer Modern and Latin Modern. Third is third-party. Best, Mica On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM, john Culleton wrote: > I note that in texlive 2013 the typescripts are found in two > subdirectories, "base" and "third". Is there a reason for this > subdivision or is it just an accident of history? > > -- > John Culleton > Wexford Press > Free list of books for self-publishers: > http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html > PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus" > available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug? gap appears in columnset
Hans wrote, > Just wondering ... do you think that the first pages look ok? Thanks for your response. By "look ok", are you referring to the closeness of the lines of text? It does seem kind of close, but within acceptable limits, depending on other constraints; however I'm not really the one to make aesthetic decisions about the document. I'm just trying to implement what the customer wants. Also, the minimal example is stripped down to minimally exercise the unexplained behavior, so it doesn't reflect the fact that in our actual document, we reduce the font size in places where we reduce the interlinespace. In that sense, maybe a less minimal example would serve the purpose better. I'll work on that, now that I know the font size may be an integral part of the problem. > You mess > with the interlinespace in a way that will make the outcome never look > okay. I'd like to know more what that means, but I think it's elaborated on below when you talk about baselineskip. > Also, columnsets assume that the interlinespace is sane. Can you point me to documentation on the constraints that define what kind of interlinespace is sane? Also, given the goal that "For using ConTeXt, no TeX programming skills and no technical background are needed. Some basic knowledge of typography and document design will enable you to use the full power of ConTeXt" (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/What_is_ConTeXt), does/could ConTeXt issue an error when its assumptions are violated? > \setbox0\hbox{Tg}\the\htdp0,\the\baselineskip > > gives > > 10.59601pt,9.3pt > > so, any line that has a character with ascender and descender will > enforce a larger than 9.3pt distance + lineskip and mess up any > prediction cq. heuristics I can't find any reference defining \htdp0, but I'm guessing it means the height+depth (where depth means how far descenders extend below the baseline) of the "Tg" box. I'm also confused as to why you're adding 9.3pt + lineskip, when in my limited understanding of TeX, I understood lineskip to be *part* of the distance between baselines, rather than an additional distance. But maybe that's not important to the main issue. I'm trying to formulate a rule for knowing whether "interlinespace is sane". Is it that interlinespace needs to be more than or equal to the maximum of (height + depth + lineskip) of any line in the text? Thanks again for your help. Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug in maths prime (derivative)
Thanks Hans: I did some testing with several fonts and situations, and everything is perfect. Best regards: OK On 17 sept. 2013, at 14:58, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 9/16/2013 2:29 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> >> I noticed that recently a discrepancy in the way the prime is positioned in >> the presence of an index as in $f'_n$ or $f_n'$ (please see the attached >> PDF). However the positioning is correct in expressions such as $u^k_n$. >> The problem shows up only in mkiv, and as far as I can say the differnece >> between the results in mkii and mkiv appeared recently (unfortunately I >> can't say when…). > > something got lost when cleaning up the code ... fixed (but we have smaller > primes .. i'll make a large option one day but rather wait till there is a > trivial extension to luatex (that i need to discuss with taco) > > Hans > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug? gap appears in columnset
On 9/17/2013 8:57 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: Can you point me to documentation on the constraints that define what kind of interlinespace is sane? the default is 2.8ex which is pretty safe, then there is the ht/dp ratio which in some cases has to be adapted to fonts esp when they are non-typical Also, given the goal that "For using ConTeXt, no TeX programming skills and no technical background are needed. Some basic knowledge of typography and document design will enable you to use the full power of ConTeXt" (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/What_is_ConTeXt), does/could ConTeXt issue an error when its assumptions are violated? well, adapting interlinespace is already beyond basic ... if you have specifications from someplace else they are supposed to be experts (ok, in many case we get weird specs too, but i always tend to ignore those) \setbox0\hbox{Tg}\the\htdp0,\the\baselineskip gives 10.59601pt,9.3pt so, any line that has a character with ascender and descender will enforce a larger than 9.3pt distance + lineskip and mess up any prediction cq. heuristics I can't find any reference defining \htdp0, but I'm guessing it means the height+depth (where depth means how far descenders extend below the baseline) of the "Tg" box. indeed, \htdp is a convenient macro, you could also add two dimensions or use a \dimexpr which is more work I'm also confused as to why you're adding 9.3pt + lineskip, when in my limited understanding of TeX, I understood lineskip to be *part* of the distance between baselines, rather than an additional distance. But maybe that's not important to the main issue. \starttext \showstruts \strut test \par \strut test \showstruts \strut \ruledhbox{$\sqrt{test}$} \par \strut test \stoptext \lineskip (1pt by default) kicks in when the line distance minus baselineskip exceeds \lineskiplimit (0pt by default) I'm trying to formulate a rule for knowing whether "interlinespace is sane". Is it that interlinespace needs to be more than or equal to the maximum of (height + depth + lineskip) of any line in the text? \setbox0\hbox{()} \the\htdp0 is the minumum and you'd better add one point at least bodyfont/baseline : 10/12 12/14.4 etc are ok Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Difference between base and third
I note that in texlive 2013 the typescripts are found in two subdirectories, "base" and "third". Is there a reason for this subdivision or is it just an accident of history? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus" available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wrong spaces in verbatim mode with Consolas
Hi, the Consolas font produces proportional spaces even with “features=none”. \starttypescript [mono] [consolas] \setups[font:fallback:mono] \definefontsynonym [Mono] [file:consolas] [features=none] \definefontsynonym [MonoBold] [file:consolasbold] [features=none] \definefontsynonym [MonoItalic] [file:consolasitalic] [features=none] \definefontsynonym [MonoBoldItalic] [file:consolasbolditalic] [features=none] \stoptypescript \definetypeface [mainface] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default] \definetypeface [mainface] [tt] [mono] [consolas] [default] %\definetypeface [mainface] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \starttyping a b cd x y z \stoptyping \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
Okee, Thanks! Robert Op 17 sep. 2013, om 17:28 heeft Hans Hagen het volgende geschreven: > On 9/14/2013 7:25 AM, R. Ermers wrote: >> Hi Contexters, >> >> Does anyone know whether it is possible in mkiv to position figures >> protruding in the outer margin? >> In mkii it used to work > > there is a check missing .. fixed in next beta > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug? gap appears in columnset
Aditya wrote: > Any particular reason you are using columnsets rather than \startcolumns > or \startmixedcolumns. Columnsets are for specialized layout requirements, > and in my experience, mixing columnsets with text that is not in > columnsets is a bit tricky. > Thanks for suggesting a potential workaround. We do have pretty specialized layout requirements, including figures (some of which are hangarounds within columns, and some are outside of columnsets but on the same page) and page-width-centered section headings that are outside of columnsets. I suspect that we tried \startcolumns and couldn't get it to work, but I will definitely try again I can't find \startmixedcolumns on the contextgarden wiki nor in the ConTeXt manual. There are references to it on this mailing list, as a "rewrite of the old columns mechanism". I'm reluctant to entrust a big production project to undocumented features, but at this point, if it works, we'll probably go with it. I wonder if it's available in mkii as well as in mkiv? > \startsetups normal > \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt] > \stopsetups > > \startsetups tight > \setupinterlinespace[line=9.3pt] > \stopsetups > \setupmixedcolumns[distance=5mm, balance=yes] > > \starttext > \section{Introduction} > \startmixedcolumns[setups=normal] > \dorecurse {7} { \input knuth } > \stopmixedcolumns > > \section{Bibliography} > > \startmixedcolumns[setups=tight] > \dorecurse {10} { \input knuth } > \stopmixedcolumns > > > Aditya (not sure why the interlinespacing is not working) At http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/133586/bug-unwanted-gap-in-2nd-columnset#comment301754_133586, phg wrote "If you want lines to adhere to a tighter line spacing you will have to set a smaller font size, (the default one is 12pt I think) e.g. |\setupbodyfont [7pt]| gets you the desired baseline skip and decent leading. Doesn’t make the gap disappear, though." I had left font settings out of the minimal example, since they aren't necessary to exercise the bug. Thanks again, Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \startitemize and \startinteraction problem in footnotes
The following fails with an “Unknown control sequence” error. It works if one removes \setupinteraction… or if one removes the \startitemize... from the footnote >> \startcomponent test \setupinteraction[state=start,color=blue,% contrastcolor=darkred, style=rm, click=yes, display=new, ] \setupnotation[footnote][interaction=yes, way=bytext, numberconversion=numbers, rule=on, textstyle=normal] \startitemize[n,broad,joinedup,packed,intro] [itemalign=flushright,left={},right={},stopper={.},margin=1pc] \item stuff \sym{4.} stuff \sym{10.} more stuff \sym{11.} and yet more \stopitemize a few words.% % \footnote {The current volumes are: \startitemize[n,broad,joinedup,packed,intro] [itemalign=flushright,left={},right={},stopper={.},margin=1pc] \item stuff \sym{4.} stuff \sym{10.} more stuff \sym{11.} and yet more \stopitemize } \stopcomponent Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug? gap appears in columnset
On 9/16/2013 11:29 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: I was advised to report the bug back to this list, with an even more minimized example. Here it is below. This bug occurs in both mkiv and mkii, in the latest versions (current beta). |\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt] \definecolumnset[columnset1][n=2] \setupcolumnset[columnset1][distance=5mm,balance=yes] \starttext \section{Introduction} \startcolumnset[columnset1] \dorecurse {7} { \input knuth } \stopcolumnset \section{Bibliography} \setupinterlinespace[line=9.3pt] \startcolumnset[columnset1] \dorecurse {10} { \input knuth } \stopcolumnset \stoptext Note the gap across both columns on p. 3, about 3/4 of the way down. Any suggestions for a workaround would be appreciated. Just wondering ... do you think that the first pages look ok? You mess with the interlinespace in a way that will make the outcome never look okay. Also, columnsets assume that the interlinespace is sane. \setbox0\hbox{Tg}\the\htdp0,\the\baselineskip gives 10.59601pt,9.3pt so, any line that has a character with ascender and descender will enforce a larger than 9.3pt distance + lineskip and mess up any prediction cq. heuristics Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug? gap appears in columnset
On 9/17/2013 5:02 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: Aditya wrote: Any particular reason you are using columnsets rather than \startcolumns or \startmixedcolumns. Columnsets are for specialized layout requirements, and in my experience, mixing columnsets with text that is not in columnsets is a bit tricky. Thanks for suggesting a potential workaround. We do have pretty specialized layout requirements, including figures (some of which are hangarounds within columns, and some are outside of columnsets but on the same page) and page-width-centered section headings that are outside of columnsets. I suspect that we tried \startcolumns and couldn't get it to work, but I will definitely try again ok, but then, an interlinespace is normally around 1.2 times the bodyfontsize I can't find \startmixedcolumns on the contextgarden wiki nor in the ConTeXt manual. There are references to it on this mailing list, as a "rewrite of the old columns mechanism". I'm reluctant to entrust a big production project to undocumented features, but at this point, if it works, we'll probably go with it. I wonder if it's available in mkii as well as in mkiv? not in mkii, but it will be the main mkiv continuous multicolumn mode (we keep the old columns around for a while) and in due time I will make a new columnset implementation (must have some snippets of code somewhere but never found time) \startsetups normal \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt] \stopsetups \startsetups tight \setupinterlinespace[line=9.3pt] \stopsetups \setupmixedcolumns[distance=5mm, balance=yes] \starttext \section{Introduction} \startmixedcolumns[setups=normal] \dorecurse {7} { \input knuth } \stopmixedcolumns \section{Bibliography} \startmixedcolumns[setups=tight] \dorecurse {10} { \input knuth } \stopmixedcolumns Aditya (not sure why the interlinespacing is not working) At http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/133586/bug-unwanted-gap-in-2nd-columnset#comment301754_133586, phg wrote "If you want lines to adhere to a tighter line spacing you will have to set a smaller font size, (the default one is 12pt I think) e.g. |\setupbodyfont [7pt]| gets you the desired baseline skip and decent leading. Doesn’t make the gap disappear, though." I had left font settings out of the minimal example, since they aren't necessary to exercise the bug. Thanks again, Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages UNSOLVED
On 9/14/2013 7:25 AM, R. Ermers wrote: Hi Contexters, Does anyone know whether it is possible in mkiv to position figures protruding in the outer margin? In mkii it used to work there is a check missing .. fixed in next beta - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] beta
Hi, A new (experimental) feature: \setupbodyfont[dejavu] \showglyphs \starttext Is it \mixedcaps{OpenType} or {\bf actually more \mixedcaps{CloseType}}? \definefont[MixedCaps][CurrentFont*default cp \the\dimexpr1.05\exheight] Is it \mixedcaps{OpenType} or {\bf actually more \mixedcaps{CloseType}}? \stoptext -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bug in maths prime (derivative)
On 9/16/2013 2:29 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, I noticed that recently a discrepancy in the way the prime is positioned in the presence of an index as in $f'_n$ or $f_n'$ (please see the attached PDF). However the positioning is correct in expressions such as $u^k_n$. The problem shows up only in mkiv, and as far as I can say the differnece between the results in mkii and mkiv appeared recently (unfortunately I can't say when…). something got lost when cleaning up the code ... fixed (but we have smaller primes .. i'll make a large option one day but rather wait till there is a trivial extension to luatex (that i need to discuss with taco) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages UNSOLVED
Hi Robert, As far as I know this is not (yet) possible in MkIV. Depends on Hans if he adds it. See the conversation "Placefigure inner/outer" from August. (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/83680/focus=83684) @Hans/Wolfgang: any idea it will be added in the (near) future? Cheers, Tim 2013/9/14 R. Ermers : > Hi Contexters, > > Does anyone know whether it is possible in mkiv to position figures > protruding in the outer margin? > In mkii it used to work. > > It seems to me that this simple feature does not work in mkiv. See minimal > example below. Is this a bug? > > Regards, > > Robert > > > Op 10 sep. 2013, om 22:05 heeft R. Ermers het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone know if positioning figures protruding into the outer margin >> can be done in mkiv? >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert >> >> >>> Hi Jörg and Marco, >>> >>> Thanks for your replies. >>> >>> I have tried the chemistry textbook examples too, especially vignette seems >>> to do what I want. I noticed you used mkii at the time, but I have mkiv >>> now. Should I return to mkii if I want to obtain this? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> Op 10 sep. 2013, om 15:18 heeft Jörg Hagmann het volgende geschreven: >>> Maybe what I did helps: see "Figures III" on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Biochemistry_textbook. Although I used mkII at the time. Cheers, Jörg R. Ermers writes: > Hi Marco, > > Thank you very much indeed for your reply. This topic apparently does not > interest many people. > > In your suggestion the figures are put in the outer margin in a vertical > row below one another close to the top of the page, and not near the > position in the text. > > I want them positioned close to the place in the text which should flow > around them. I have seen examples of this made by Context. This can be > obtained by specifying default=left, or default=right, only I need the > figures to protrude into the (outer) margin. This for some reason does > not work under mkiv. > > I still have some time, but my deadline is approaching. > > Thanks again! > > Kind regards, > > Robert > > > Op 10 sep. 2013, om 09:59 heeft Marco Patzer het volgende geschreven: > >> On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote: >> >>> I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be >>> placed in the outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the >>> middle of the page. The outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge, >>> commands do not work. Right and left do work. >> >> You probably confused edge and margin. By default the edge has zero >> width and has to be enabled using \setuplayout. >> >>> Preferably the criterium option should also work >> >> \setupexternalfigures >> [location=default] >> >> \setuppagenumbering >> [alternative=doublesided] >> >> \definefloat >> [marginfigure] >> [marginfigures] >> [figure] >> >> \setupfloat >> [marginfigure] >> [default=margin, >> criterium=\marginwidth] >> >> \setupcaption >> [marginfigure] >> [number=no] >> >> \showframe >> \starttext >> \dorecurse{9}{%% >> \input knuth >> \startplacemarginfigure >> \externalfigure [cow] [width=\recurselevel cm] >> \stopplacemarginfigure} >> \stoptext >> >> Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ >>> >>> ___ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >>> the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >>> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> ___ >> >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> __