Re: [NTG-context] Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 19:16:17 +0200:

>At 18:39 26/05/2004, you wrote:
>>Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 18:23:16 +0200:
>>
>> >great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies
>>
>>Your menus and thingies in (public) ConTeXt are already there. I actually
>>stuck them in the scite/*.properties directory so that it opens up ready
>>to go, ConTeXt-wise. Was that what you meant?
>
>indeed, but now i have them 3 times in the prop edit menu, so maybe there 
>are dups now;

oops. probably because they were already present and/or some of your
local command-names/numbers have changed?

>what we also need is a variant of --autopdf, i.e, is there a one-liner like:
>
>kill "the pid that has arobat open"

% killall Acrobat
 (Although the free version is "Adobe Reader 6.0" now...)

>SciTE &
>
>(how to auto start X)

% open-x11 SciTE
(no ampersand needed, and it seems to be nice: launches X11 if needed,
brings the window forward if already launched...)

>next week i'll start playing a bit with xetex and those unicode fonts (we 
>need to move that code into pdftex -);

I'm blown away by XeTeX, but it has only given me a bus error since I had
it going in its version 0.3. My tex trees need a clean... 

> i can work much faster with a scite 
>like editor and this way i can use windows and mac along side

Nice. It has a way to go before it replaces iTeXMac (or emacs!) for me.
Perhaps if there was nice folding, SciTE would be more tempting. But I
see the value in a uniform editor across platforms.

adam
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Re: [NTG-context] pagination bug

[Nigel King]

Hans,
Thank you very much for this I had not realized it would be so 
complicated. The document which raised the problem now works correctly. 
I will try to find other examples.

Thanks again
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On 26 May 2004, at 20:24, Hans Hagen wrote:
At 19:30 25/05/2004, you wrote:
Hans,
The following minimum file does not paginate correctly. It overflows 
the second page. Removing the figure or the second level of 
itemization fixes the pagination. I have enclosed the text of the 
file and the file itself for ease of reproduction.

I am using the latest stable version from i-installer. I actually 
think I have had this problem before but not tracked it down.

TIA
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\starttext
\placefigure
  [here]
  [fig:a]
  {big figure}
 {\externalfigure[koe][width=\textwidth,height=\textwidth]}
\startitemize[packed,n]
\dorecurse{10} {\item repeated}
\startitemize[packed,a,columns]
\dorecurse{10} {\item repeated indent}
\stopitemize
\stopitemize
\dorecurse{7}{\input zapf \par\relax}
\stoptext
I'm not that sure if the next will not interfere with other 
situations, so please play a bit with white space settings ans such 
and mixed one/two column modes

\def\endmulticolumns
  {%\par
   \vskip\lineheight\vskip-\lineheight % take footnotes into account
   \dontshowcomposition
   \doflushcolumnfloat  % added recently
  %\doflushcolumnfloats % no, since it results in wrong top floats
   \flushnotes  % before start of columns
   \par
   \ifbalancecolumns
 \global\output{\continuousmulticolumnsout}%
 \goodbreak
 \global\output{\balancedmulticolumnsout}%
   \else
 \goodbreak
   \fi
   \eject   % the prevdepth is important, try e.g. toclist 
in
   \prevdepth\zeropoint % columns before some noncolumned text text
   \global\output\singlecolumnout
   \global\output{\the\mainoutput}% % % % % todo
   \ifvoid\precolumnbox\else
 \unvbox\precolumnbox
   \fi
   \global\precolumnboxheight\zeropoint
   \endgroup % here
   \nofcolumns\plusone
   \setvsize % the outer one!
\synchronizeoutput % new may 2004 / we need to: \pagegoal\vsize
   \checkendcolumnfootnotes
   \dosomebreak\allowbreak
   \restoresavedfloats}
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Re: [NTG-context] SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Henning Hraban Ramm said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 22:46:07 +0200:

>Thank you for your work - but it doesn't run on Jaguar (my Panther 
>isn't here yet).
>Could you distribute the sources, too?

The sources are absolutely unchanged from the Scintilla & GTK+2.0
sources. I just traced through the dependencies that weren't already
present on a Panther system. That's what took all day.

Darwin Ports would probably get you GTK a lot quicker. You probably could
build SciTE on top of that.

If you're really interested, I made a little diagram of the missing libs
I found. I could annotate that with what I can remember of the build
tricks I needed. Nothing fancy, just drudge work.

adam
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Re : [NTG-context] Cell padding in natural tables

[David Munger]

And by the way, is there a way to lock the total width of the table
without setting the width of individual cells?

you can set the 'offset'; think of each table cell as being something  
\framed
Ahh... So that was the point. Works perfectly. Thank you.
And how about locking the table's total width, without having to tweak  
individual cells width?

David
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Re: [NTG-context] SciTE Mac

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Mittwoch, 26.05.04, um 14:23 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Adam 
Lindsay:
http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/#other
I spent yesterday doing a "quick" port of SciTE for Mac OS X (XWindow
system only!), and bundled up the libraries (and ConTeXt config files,
with a couple mac-friendly mods) at the above URL. I mostly did it out 
of
interest and to see what it was like. If other Mac users are curious,
take a look (but don't expect any help ;p ).
Thank you for your work - but it doesn't run on Jaguar (my Panther 
isn't here yet).
Could you distribute the sources, too?


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Re: [NTG-context] \=i

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Could not interest anyone in the \=i problem, I guess. Anyway, could 
someone tell me how ConTeXt defines \=i (so as to always get plain \=\i)?

Best
Idris
On Mon, 24 May 2004 12:42:00 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid 
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:28:41 +0200, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
did you try the latin modern fonts? they have many composed characters 
as well as more/better accents
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Re: [NTG-context] Cell padding in natural tables

[Hans Hagen]

At 20:55 26/05/2004, you wrote:
Hello,
There was that question to which I could not find an answer:
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2002/000140.html
So, is there a way to set the cell padding in natural tables?
And by the way, is there a way to lock the total width of the table
without setting the width of individual cells?
you can set the 'offset'; think of each table cell as being something \framed
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: strange problem [adam@ajtee.uklinux.net]

[Hans Hagen]

At 20:53 25/05/2004, you wrote:
On 05/25/04 19:04:36, Adam Tee wrote:
Hi all,
I have a small problem with a document I am processing. When I include
a certain file , using \component productions, and process it I get the
following error.
! Missing } inserted.

  }

 \endgroup
l.56 \stopappendices
However, if I run the file on its own it processes fine no errors.
Does anyone know the solution to this as it is causing problems with
some references.
hard to track down with no example; looks like a egroup/endgroup mixup; 
maybe you can run with etex's \tracinggroups set

Also, is there a way to easily adjust the distance between
abbreviations and their infull versions on the Abbreviations page as I
have some overlap ??
abbreviations are just definitions so you can o the same trickery
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] pagination bug

[Hans Hagen]

At 19:30 25/05/2004, you wrote:
Hans,
The following minimum file does not paginate correctly. It overflows the 
second page. Removing the figure or the second level of itemization fixes 
the pagination. I have enclosed the text of the file and the file itself 
for ease of reproduction.

I am using the latest stable version from i-installer. I actually think I 
have had this problem before but not tracked it down.

TIA
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\starttext
\placefigure
  [here]
  [fig:a]
  {big figure}
 {\externalfigure[koe][width=\textwidth,height=\textwidth]}
\startitemize[packed,n]
\dorecurse{10} {\item repeated}
\startitemize[packed,a,columns]
\dorecurse{10} {\item repeated indent}
\stopitemize
\stopitemize
\dorecurse{7}{\input zapf \par\relax}
\stoptext
I'm not that sure if the next will not interfere with other situations, so 
please play a bit with white space settings ans such and mixed one/two 
column modes

\def\endmulticolumns
  {%\par
   \vskip\lineheight\vskip-\lineheight % take footnotes into account
   \dontshowcomposition
   \doflushcolumnfloat  % added recently
  %\doflushcolumnfloats % no, since it results in wrong top floats
   \flushnotes  % before start of columns
   \par
   \ifbalancecolumns
 \global\output{\continuousmulticolumnsout}%
 \goodbreak
 \global\output{\balancedmulticolumnsout}%
   \else
 \goodbreak
   \fi
   \eject   % the prevdepth is important, try e.g. toclist in
   \prevdepth\zeropoint % columns before some noncolumned text text
   \global\output\singlecolumnout
   \global\output{\the\mainoutput}% % % % % todo
   \ifvoid\precolumnbox\else
 \unvbox\precolumnbox
   \fi
   \global\precolumnboxheight\zeropoint
   \endgroup % here
   \nofcolumns\plusone
   \setvsize % the outer one!
\synchronizeoutput % new may 2004 / we need to: \pagegoal\vsize
   \checkendcolumnfootnotes
   \dosomebreak\allowbreak
   \restoresavedfloats} 

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[NTG-context] Cell padding in natural tables

[David Munger]

Hello,
There was that question to which I could not find an answer:
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2002/000140.html
So, is there a way to set the cell padding in natural tables?
And by the way, is there a way to lock the total width of the table  
without setting the width of individual cells?

Regards,
David
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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib sorting, etc.

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hmm,
It's nice 2 know that u're working on the bibliography module again. I use 
it extensively for my journal and have found a number of bugs, did not 
report them since I was under the impression that you had stopped work on 
it (I've been away for a while and am out of date)... I'll try the 
30-9-2003 version and try 2 report back in the coming days.

Best
Idris
On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:36:16 +0200, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Hi,
Somehow,  I completely missed this bug in last september's updated 
release
of the module.
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: SciTE Mac

[Hans Hagen]

At 18:39 26/05/2004, you wrote:
Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 18:23:16 +0200:
>great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies
Your menus and thingies in (public) ConTeXt are already there. I actually
stuck them in the scite/*.properties directory so that it opens up ready
to go, ConTeXt-wise. Was that what you meant?
indeed, but now i have them 3 times in the prop edit menu, so maybe there 
are dups now;

what we also need is a variant of --autopdf, i.e, is there a one-liner like:
kill "the pid that has arobat open"
i can now add mscite to the cdrom-image:
#!/bin/sh
. /usr/local/context/tex/setuptex /usr/local/context/tex
# we need to extent the path for ruby and scite
PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
export PATH
SciTE &
(how to auto start X)
next week i'll start playing a bit with xetex and those unicode fonts (we 
need to move that code into pdftex -); i can work much faster with a scite 
like editor and this way i can use windows and mac along side

Hans 

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[NTG-context] Re: SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 18:23:16 +0200:

>great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies

Your menus and thingies in (public) ConTeXt are already there. I actually
stuck them in the scite/*.properties directory so that it opens up ready
to go, ConTeXt-wise. Was that what you meant?

>(i'll come back to this asap, tomorrow is the dutch user group day, so 
>there is some delay)

No prob. no rush.
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[NTG-context] Re: SciTE Mac

[Hans Hagen]

At 14:23 26/05/2004, Adam Lindsay wrote:
Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:51:54 +0200:
>no scite on mac yet
http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/#other
I spent yesterday doing a "quick" port of SciTE for Mac OS X (XWindow
system only!), and bundled up the libraries (and ConTeXt config files,
with a couple mac-friendly mods) at the above URL. I mostly did it out of
interest and to see what it was like. If other Mac users are curious,
take a look (but don't expect any help ;p ).
great! i'll see if i can hook in my menus and thingies
(i'll come back to this asap, tomorrow is the dutch user group day, so 
there is some delay)

Hans  

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Re: [NTG-context] TIPA in Context

[Hans Hagen]

At 15:32 26/05/2004, Adam Lindsay wrote:
Interesting problem.
indeed
I just looked at 
Yes, it sounds like there's a way of using the TIPA *font* in ConTeXt.
However, it seems like the job of adapting all of the TIPA package and
the T3 encoding for ConTeXt is not trivial. Still, it seems like some
degree of support can be hacked.
First off, for your dictionary, what do you use for input?
is it "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "\textphi\textschwa n"?
that's the right approach: what do you want, what interface suits best; i 
can provide hooks/low level features if needed; so go ahead !

Hans  

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Re: [NTG-context] TIPA in Context

[Adam Lindsay]

Hello, Sjoerd.

Interesting problem.

I just looked at 

Yes, it sounds like there's a way of using the TIPA *font* in ConTeXt.
However, it seems like the job of adapting all of the TIPA package and
the T3 encoding for ConTeXt is not trivial. Still, it seems like some
degree of support can be hacked.

First off, for your dictionary, what do you use for input?
is it "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "\textphi\textschwa n"?

Are all of your IPA commands contained within a \textipa{} macro?

Which of the special macros do you use? \* \; \: \!

Do you use the \super macro much? Does it ever get nested? (Hans's
\high{} macro acts a little differently.)

You can play with the basic set of glyphs with as little as:
\startfont[tipa12]
[""Ekspl@"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\stopfont

...but I presume you want deeper support than that. Which do you need first?

adam

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said this at Wed, 26 May 2004 14:32:46 +0200:

>I am currently converting my Old Frisian Etymological dictionary from
LaTeX to
>Context and I have run into two problems.
>
>The first problem is that I am using the  TIPA package to typeset
phonological
>fonts and diactitica. Is there a way to use the TIPA font in Context? 
>
>The second problem is that the dictionary has 142 seperate language indexes
>with over 32000 index markers in the standard latex index format
>\index[language_abbreviation]{...}. Is there an easy way to write one new
>(TeX) definition which interprets these markers in such a way that Context
>accepts.  

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[NTG-context] TIPA in Context

[sjoerdsiebinga]

I am currently converting my Old Frisian Etymological dictionary from LaTeX to
Context and I have run into two problems.

The first problem is that I am using the  TIPA package to typeset phonological
fonts and diactitica. Is there a way to use the TIPA font in Context? 

The second problem is that the dictionary has 142 seperate language indexes
with over 32000 index markers in the standard latex index format
\index[language_abbreviation]{...}. Is there an easy way to write one new
(TeX) definition which interprets these markers in such a way that Context
accepts.  


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[NTG-context] SciTE Mac

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:51:54 +0200:

>no scite on mac yet

http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/#other

I spent yesterday doing a "quick" port of SciTE for Mac OS X (XWindow
system only!), and bundled up the libraries (and ConTeXt config files,
with a couple mac-friendly mods) at the above URL. I mostly did it out of
interest and to see what it was like. If other Mac users are curious,
take a look (but don't expect any help ;p ).

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib sorting, etc.

[Taco Hoekwater]

Sorry, that was a cut&paste error. Fixed that bug, as well as:

Patched bibl-aps.tex: the type `unpublished' now typesets  `(unpublished)'
in the publication list instead of attempting to process a publisher (thanks 
Tobias Burnus)

Yet another zip file has been updated.

Greetings, Taco

On Wed, 26 May 2004 12:49:39 +0200, Maurice wrote:

> 
> Bonjour à tous,
> 
> Le 26 mai 04, à 10:36, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :
> 
> > http://tex.aanhet.net/bib
> 
> An error seams to be in the file m-bib.tex (line 97)
> Two consecutive lines contains \stopvariables
> 
> Putting one into comment seems to work.
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib sorting, etc.

[Maurice Diamantini]

Bonjour à tous,
Le 26 mai 04, à 10:36, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :
http://tex.aanhet.net/bib
An error seams to be in the file m-bib.tex (line 97)
Two consecutive lines contains \stopvariables
Putting one into comment seems to work.
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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib sorting, etc.

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Somehow,  I completely missed this bug in last september's updated release
of the module. It is now fixed, and a new zip file is available at:

http://tex.aanhet.net/bib

If there are any more "still open" bugs, please let me know.

Greetings, Taco


On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:42:45 +0200 (CEST), Peter wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:
> 
> > Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 16:13 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
> > > > \setupbibtex[sort=author]
> > > > \setuppublications[sorttype=bbl]
> > >
> > > If I understand correctly, if I have this code in the preamble and I
> > > run BibTeX, the cont-au.bst file ought to be automatically used.  Is
> > 
> > Yes. Another bug. You have to manually edit the aux file produced by the first
> > tex run and replace cont-no by cont-au. Even worse: since the extension .aux
> > is hard coded in bibtex, and since the file is written each time you run tex,
> > you will have to do this before every bibtex run (i.e., every time you make
> > changes to your bib database).
> 
> Hello,
> does anybody know, how to fix this bug?
> If not, I'm going to try it...
> Cheers, Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] (Mathe)Problem with $\tilde x$ and $\bar x$

[Hans Hagen]

Hopefully, Hans can add these for the next release. :D
adam
sure
Hans  

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