Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Matthias Weber wrote: You can comment out the line \doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput} There is probably also an invocation of TeX with a command line option which sets the mode. I made it with $>texexec --pdf --mode=demo m-shape.tex luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
You can comment out the line \doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput} There is probably also an invocation of TeX with a command line option which sets the mode. Matthias On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:36 PM, David Wooten wrote: Hmm, I'm not sure how to try out this 'preliminary module' --- looks like there is a sample included, but perhaps it could be spelled out for me (and anyone else who doesn't know how to proceed). Many thanks! Dave On Jul 19, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Mikael Persson wrote: Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? This is always kind of tricky. Grepping for parshape on my disk gave me an old test file which i wrapped in a preliminary module. I'm not that sure about the interface and I've forgotten how well it performs. (I do have a multi column variant somewhere too.) no guarantees Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Hmm, I'm not sure how to try out this 'preliminary module' --- looks like there is a sample included, but perhaps it could be spelled out for me (and anyone else who doesn't know how to proceed). Many thanks! Dave On Jul 19, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Mikael Persson wrote: Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? This is always kind of tricky. Grepping for parshape on my disk gave me an old test file which i wrapped in a preliminary module. I'm not that sure about the interface and I've forgotten how well it performs. (I do have a multi column variant somewhere too.) no guarantees Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt to XML?
At 01:40 PM 7/19/2005, you wrote: Brooks Moses wrote: The other alternative I know of for doing math in XML is embedding bits of LaTeX code within the XML. Since most "conversion to non-PDF formats" involves converting the math to bitmap images anyway (or, at least, any conversion to HTML for the web does!), I don't think that's really complicating things much. It's certainly possible in theory to embed LaTeX-coded equations in ConTeXt, and there's a small bit of comment on this on the Wiki. In practice, it may take a bit of coding to make work, but the amount won't be excessive. there is a math module (m-math) and a new implementation of that (m-newmat) which does quite some ams math; It does some, yes, though not (yet) the multiline alignment parts that I need. i have no problem with adding more code but each time i ask for specs, nothing comes up -) Yeah, I know. The specs for what I need are "I've got this pile of equations written in LaTeX with the AMSmath package, and I'd like to be able to copy them back and forth between LaTeX and ConTeXt without needing to edit them." I'm slowly working on reducing that to something that's actually useful as specifications (and as some code), and I hope to get some of that to you within the next few months or so. - Brooks ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] [BUG] unic-032.tex 0x2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS definition wrong
\textellipsis usually expands to \cdots and that's fine, but \textellipsis shouldn't be used in unic-032.tex for 0x2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS, as this codepoint is for a symbol of dots on the base-line, not in the center. I've posted about this previously, but got no response. Anyway, I've attached a patch that fixes the problem. I don't know if using \dots instead is the best solution, though, so further discussion may be necessary?, nikolai -- Nikolai Weibull: now available free of charge at http://bitwi.se/! Born in Chicago, IL USA; currently residing in Gothenburg, Sweden. main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);} --- old-unic-032.tex2005-07-20 01:13:44.414092288 +0200 +++ unic-032.tex2005-07-20 01:13:54.869502824 +0200 @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ \strippedcsname \unknownchar \or % U+2023 TRIANGULAR BULLET \strippedcsname \unknownchar \or % U+2024 ONE DOT LEADER \strippedcsname \unknownchar \or % U+2025 TWO DOT LEADER -\strippedcsname \textellipsis \else % U+2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS +\strippedcsname \dots \else % U+2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS \ifcase\numexpr#1-48\relax \strippedcsname \perthousand \or % U+2030 PER MILLE SIGN \strippedcsname \unknownchar \or % U+2031 PER TEN THOUSAND SIGN ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new beta
Hi, I'm currently uploading a beta with the most recent discussed fixes / extensions. The questiosn with regards to verse/poems triggered me into looking into the lines mechanism and i found out that the odd/even indentation was broken. As a result i rewrote part if the indenter. So, the following should work ok \setupindenting[medium] \setuplines[indenting=no] \startlines first second third fourth \stoplines \setuplines[indenting=yes] \startlines first second third fourth \stoplines \setuplines[indenting=odd] \startlines first second third fourth \stoplines \setuplines[indenting=even] \startlines first second third fourth \stoplines -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt to XML?
Hi Elena Concerning the math and xml, it all depends on what kind of math is used. In most cases some tex -> presentation mathml results in sub optimal results. One of the advantages of context is that one can easilly modulate on layouts, so for publishing on the web one can as well use pdf in a more screen/navigation friendly layout. It's no real problem to generate multiple instances from one document using processing modes. That way you get quality on paper and on screen. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt to XML?
Elena Fraboschi wrote: So, I have been delving into ConTeXt, and I like its syntax: far "cleaner" than LaTeX. I have also read that there is work in progress to convert XML to ConTeXt --- my question is, any thoughts, hints, recommendations about reverse-engineering, that is, from ConTeXt to XML? If the IUMJ switched production to ConTeXt, we would still want to preserve on "archival" copy in XML. (As of now we translate LaTeX to XML using "hermes", but it would not work with ConTeXt.) If nothing is contemplated in the area of *from ConTeXt to XML", might this strategy work There are several things involved in such a translation - the general structure, this is not that hard and can easily be scripted - special characters, also easy to script - special markup, like math, chemistry etc concerning math, one can use: - content mathml, which is very structured and configurable - presentation mathml, which looks like tex, and does not always lead to nice looking output - embedded tex, which is ok as a start one can consider "structure in xml and embedded tex for formulas", its not that hard to generate web pages from that i'm considering adding open math support (needed for a project) ConTeXt -> pdf - pdf to XML ? the best way is: xml -> context xml -> html xml -> anything normally magazines are not that complex so oen can use context's direct mapping; depending on the amount of manipulations, one can xml -> context reading xml -> pdf xml -> xslt -> xml -> context reading xml -> pdf xml -> xslt -> context code -> context reading tex -> pdf in any case, try to cut the problem into small parts and find solutions for that; so far i never ran into things/demands that could not be solved I apologize if the topic is off bounds, and will be grateful if anyone decides to think outloud on this subject. Best, elena no problem, if you want to know more you can either use this list (it could also be a nice thread for those who want to do similar things) if you don't want to bother the list., you may also mail me directly pdf is pages while xml is structured markup, so converting pdf into xml is non trivial, (btw, the dutch math societies journal is made up in context, i.e. non standard layout (2/3 columns, grayscales, two non cm font sets, graphics, pictures etc; the main reason why we now have the columnsets mechanism-) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt to XML?
Brooks Moses wrote: On a different note, it may be worth pointing out that ConTeXt's support for typesetting of complicated equations -- that is, the sort of stuff for which one really wants the AMSmath package in LaTeX -- really isn't especially great; it's pretty much limited to the capabilities of Plain TeX. I'm currently working (very slowly) on trying to improve this by doing a port of AMSmath to ConTeXt, but I have no idea how compatible that will be with ConTeXt's MathML/XML support, nor when I'd have it to a point where it would be ready for production work. The other alternative I know of for doing math in XML is embedding bits of LaTeX code within the XML. Since most "conversion to non-PDF formats" involves converting the math to bitmap images anyway (or, at least, any conversion to HTML for the web does!), I don't think that's really complicating things much. It's certainly possible in theory to embed LaTeX-coded equations in ConTeXt, and there's a small bit of comment on this on the Wiki. In practice, it may take a bit of coding to make work, but the amount won't be excessive. there is a math module (m-math) and a new implementation of that (m-newmat) which does quite some ams math; i have no problem with adding more code but each time i ask for specs, nothing comes up -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Mikael Persson wrote: Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? This is always kind of tricky. Grepping for parshape on my disk gave me an old test file which i wrapped in a preliminary module. I'm not that sure about the interface and I've forgotten how well it performs. (I do have a multi column variant somewhere too.) no guarantees Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - m-shape.tex Description: TeX document ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: presentations in ConTeXt
Thanks again, Hans! I just figured out how to do it by experimenting with s-pre-01.tex. The key was \setuplayout[bottom=12pt] % or some dimension Without it, I'd get no bar, but now it works, and it looks just amazing! I'm looking forward to my next presentation!! Best Thomas On Jul 19, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: there are some examples or usage in the presentation styles grep interactionbar s-pre* s-pre-01.tex:%D {interactionbar} s-pre-01.tex: {\interactionbar[alternative=f,width=.5 \makeupwidth,height=1 ex]} s-pre-01.tex:%D {setupinteractionbar, interactionbuttons} s-pre-01.tex:\setupinteractionbar s-pre-04.tex:%D {setupinteractionbar} s-pre-04.tex:\setupinteractionbar s-pre-04.tex: [\interactionbar] s-pre-04.tex:%D setupbackgrounds,setupinteraction,setupinteractionbar, s-pre-04.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=stop] s-pre-04.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=start] s-pre-05.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=stop] s-pre-05.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=start] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt to XML?
At 09:18 AM 7/19/2005, Elena Fraboschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I have been delving into ConTeXt, and I like its syntax: far "cleaner" than LaTeX. I have also read that there is work in progress to convert XML to ConTeXt --- my question is, any thoughts, hints, recommendations about reverse-engineering, that is, from ConTeXt to XML? If the IUMJ switched production to ConTeXt, we would still want to preserve on "archival" copy in XML. I'm reminded of a presentation that Kaveh Bazargan (from River Valley Technologies) gave at the PracticalTeX 2004 conference on a LaTeX/XML process they use, but unfortunately he hasn't provided any paper to go with his presentation. One of the things, though, that I specifically remember was that, since they also were archiving XML, their process specifically converted the authors' LaTeX to XML (specifically with the mathematics in MathML, rather than as embedded LaTeX as I know some publishers do), and then converted that from XML back to LaTeX and thence to PDF (or Postscript, possibly) for actual production -- thus guaranteeing that the archival XML would in fact reproduce the production versions exactly. With a workflow like that, I'm not certain how much conversion from ConTeXt to XML will be necessary -- you'll probably, at least for the time being, still be getting author submissions in LaTeX. You could then convert that to XML using a version of your present process, adjust the XML as needed to fit your standards, archive the XML, and then dump the XML into an automated sort of process that converts it to ConTeXt and thence to PDF, html, and whatever else you need. The only requirement, then, is that the XML -> ConTeXt -> PDF workflow not involve any manual adjustments to the ConTeXt code -- all manual changes would need to be made in the XML. (That may be a good idea anyway, as it guarantees that the XML is always the "true" version.) (As of now we translate LaTeX to XML using "hermes", but it would not work with ConTeXt.) If nothing is contemplated in the area of *from ConTeXt to XML", might this strategy work ConTeXt -> pdf - pdf to XML ? I suspect that, insofar as it worked, you'd probably lose most of the metadata (this is a section header, this is a subsection header, etc.) unless it was a PDF to XML converter that was very specific to your particular PDF files. ... On a different note, it may be worth pointing out that ConTeXt's support for typesetting of complicated equations -- that is, the sort of stuff for which one really wants the AMSmath package in LaTeX -- really isn't especially great; it's pretty much limited to the capabilities of Plain TeX. I'm currently working (very slowly) on trying to improve this by doing a port of AMSmath to ConTeXt, but I have no idea how compatible that will be with ConTeXt's MathML/XML support, nor when I'd have it to a point where it would be ready for production work. The other alternative I know of for doing math in XML is embedding bits of LaTeX code within the XML. Since most "conversion to non-PDF formats" involves converting the math to bitmap images anyway (or, at least, any conversion to HTML for the web does!), I don't think that's really complicating things much. It's certainly possible in theory to embed LaTeX-coded equations in ConTeXt, and there's a small bit of comment on this on the Wiki. In practice, it may take a bit of coding to make work, but the amount won't be excessive. ... And, on yet a third note, you might find it useful to talk to Steve Grathwohl at the Duke University Press -- he was also at the PracticalTeX 2004 conference, and had clearly "caught the ConTeXt bug", and I suspect he may well have some useful practical experience in this area. - Brooks ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Footnote Follies
John R. Culleton wrote: Just finished a highly formatted job for a customer. Something occurred that isn't supposed to happen with Tex. The reference number for a footnote was on page "a" and the footnote itself was on page "a+1." As it happened the footnote was placed at the end of a paragraph and the paragraph ended in a left parens. So I had: blah blah blah.)\footnote{text of note} Also \goodbreak and \clubpenalty 1 in combination still do not prevent all orphan (club) lines. Perhaps there is a magic Context incantation that I missed. \setupnotes[footnote][split=strict] options are: tolerant strict verystrick 'a number' Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Footnote Follies
Just finished a highly formatted job for a customer. Something occurred that isn't supposed to happen with Tex. The reference number for a footnote was on page "a" and the footnote itself was on page "a+1." As it happened the footnote was placed at the end of a paragraph and the paragraph ended in a left parens. So I had: blah blah blah.)\footnote{text of note} Also \goodbreak and \clubpenalty 1 in combination still do not prevent all orphan (club) lines. Perhaps there is a magic Context incantation that I missed. -- John Culleton ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: presentations in ConTeXt
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Thanks Hans! What about a small refresher about \interactionbar cum suis. Could you post a minimal example of what is needed to get output from it? I tried with a couple of combinations of \setupinteraction[state=start] and \setupinteractionbar [alternative=d] etc, but I'm not getting any output on my pdf's. I'd be very grateful! there are some examples or usage in the presentation styles grep interactionbar s-pre* s-pre-01.tex:%D {interactionbar} s-pre-01.tex: {\interactionbar[alternative=f,width=.5\makeupwidth,height=1 ex]} s-pre-01.tex:%D {setupinteractionbar, interactionbuttons} s-pre-01.tex:\setupinteractionbar s-pre-04.tex:%D {setupinteractionbar} s-pre-04.tex:\setupinteractionbar s-pre-04.tex: [\interactionbar] s-pre-04.tex:%Dsetupbackgrounds,setupinteraction,setupinteractionbar, s-pre-04.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=stop] s-pre-04.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=start] s-pre-05.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=stop] s-pre-05.tex: \setupinteractionbar[state=start] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] ConTeXt to XML?
Dear all: Sorry if this question is not appropriate for this forum - I am a newbie, I tried to read at least one month's worth of emails, and... I do not come to this list from the perspective of an author, who can afford to give his work huge amounts of time till it is set just right. I come here from the perspective of a publisher/editor (Indiana University Mathematics Journal), where the outlook is quite different: You take many papers (LaTeX source files), written by people whose expertise ranges from spaghetti-TeX to guru-TeX, and you "massage" them to conform to the Journal format and to make them look as nice as possible. (Perfection remains always on the horizon - you got to meet the printers' deadlines.) That said by way of introduction, I am contemplating a move for the IUMJ away from LaTeX to ... I have two reasons to recommend abandoning LaTeX: (1) LaTeX's conversion to other formats (excluding PDF) is laborius and falls very short of the ideal, and (2) long-term archiving and long-term reusability in settings we may not even envisage at this time forces me to think XML... XML... XML. So, I have been delving into ConTeXt, and I like its syntax: far "cleaner" than LaTeX. I have also read that there is work in progress to convert XML to ConTeXt --- my question is, any thoughts, hints, recommendations about reverse-engineering, that is, from ConTeXt to XML? If the IUMJ switched production to ConTeXt, we would still want to preserve on "archival" copy in XML. (As of now we translate LaTeX to XML using "hermes", but it would not work with ConTeXt.) If nothing is contemplated in the area of *from ConTeXt to XML", might this strategy work ConTeXt -> pdf - pdf to XML ? I apologize if the topic is off bounds, and will be grateful if anyone decides to think outloud on this subject. Best, elena Elena Fraboschi Indiana University Mathematics Journal ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] indentaion
Le 19 juil. 05 à 14:36, Steffen Wolfrum a écrit : > Is anyone using \indenting[no] to suppress the next indentation? I used to in the very early beginnings. But very quickly i got lazy and reverted to using \noindent instead. I wouldn't mind having it go away or changing. Taco same for me me too, I use TeX version which also work with LaTeX. Maurice___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: presentations in ConTeXt
Thanks Hans! What about a small refresher about \interactionbar cum suis. Could you post a minimal example of what is needed to get output from it? I tried with a couple of combinations of \setupinteraction[state=start] and \setupinteractionbar [alternative=d] etc, but I'm not getting any output on my pdf's. I'd be very grateful! Best Thomas On Jul 17, 2005, at 11:10 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Mojca, thanks again, that's a useful trick! However, there is a command \interactionbar which seems to provide this functionality, and there is \setupinteractionbar, but the commands are somewhat underdocumented :-) At least, I don't get any visible output on my slides when I include them; there seems to be some kind of secret... (Your code doesn't compile here, it dies with this message: This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.4) (p-mpgraph.mp >> NOfPages-2 ! Unknown relation will be considered false. ) l.118 if(NOfPages > 2) and (PageNumber > 0): fraction := (PageNumber-1)/(NOf... ? Thanks, and best if you want access to those variables (some of them only make sense at pag ebuilding time) you need to say: LoadPageState ; (this is done automatically in StartPage ... StopPage) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
On 7/13/05, Hartmut Henkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > David Wooten wrote: > > > Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// > > > trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently > > > possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? > > > > In a standard TeX installation, it is not possible to make this type > > of paragraph without massive amounts of manual intervention, because > > TeX's paragraphs cannot (normally) contain holes. > > FWIW, there is a pointer to a similar problem in DEK's "Digital > Typography", chapter 9: "Problem for a Saturday Morning", published in > TUGboat 8 (1987) (Harmless title for the amount of macros piling up > there :-) An article from Alan Hoenig is also mentioned, which can be > found there: > > http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb08-2/tb18hoenig.pdf > Hi, Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? Best regards, Micke P ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] footnote within \startlines \stoplines
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Charles Doherty wrote: Dear Hans, Example 1 below causes TeX to hang and I have to abort the TeX run whereas Example 2 works when I omit \startlines / \stoplines and use \crlf. I have included the console readout for Example 1 below. I can get by with Example 2 but I thought I should let you know. Hi Charles, Current ConTeXt chokes on the use of \ within \startlines ... \stoplines (that is a known bug). You need a workaround. This works for the current example: \starttext Example 1 And here is the sentence before \startnarrower[2*left,2*right] % Bugfix: redefinition on the next line \startlines \def\ { } A Somonour was ther with us in that place, or, in page-lin.tex, fix: \installspacehandler \v!off {\normalspaces \let\obeyedspace\normalspace \let\ =\normalspace} -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] footnote within \startlines \stoplines
On 19 Jul 2005, at 13:23, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Current ConTeXt chokes on the use of \ within \startlines ... \stoplines (that is a known bug). You need a workaround. This works for the current example: \starttext Example 1 And here is the sentence before \startnarrower[2*left,2*right] % Bugfix: redefinition on the next line \startlines \def\ { } A Somonour was ther with us in that place, Thanks Taco, That's great. Charlie ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] indentaion
> Is anyone using \indenting[no] to suppress the next indentation? I used to in the very early beginnings. But very quickly i got lazy and reverted to using \noindent instead. I wouldn't mind having it go away or changing. Taco same for me Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] footnote within \startlines \stoplines
Charles Doherty wrote: Dear Hans, Example 1 below causes TeX to hang and I have to abort the TeX run whereas Example 2 works when I omit \startlines / \stoplines and use \crlf. I have included the console readout for Example 1 below. I can get by with Example 2 but I thought I should let you know. Hi Charles, Current ConTeXt chokes on the use of \ within \startlines ... \stoplines (that is a known bug). You need a workaround. This works for the current example: \starttext Example 1 And here is the sentence before \startnarrower[2*left,2*right] % Bugfix: redefinition on the next line \startlines \def\ { } A Somonour was ther with us in that place, Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] footnote within \startlines \stoplines
Dear Hans,Example 1 below causes TeX to hang and I have to abort the TeX run whereas Example 2 works when I omit \startlines / \stoplines and use \crlf. I have included the console readout for Example 1 below. I can get by with Example 2 but I thought I should let you know. Thanks again,Charlie Doherty\starttextExample 1And here is the sentence before\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]\startlinesA Somonour was ther with us in that place, That hadde a fyr-reed cherubynnes face, For saucefleem he was, with eyen narwe. As hoot he was and lecherous as a sparwe, With scalled browes blake and piled berd. Of his visage children were aferd.%\footnote{Burgess, A., \slanted{The Riverside Chaucer}, p.\ 33 (623--628). From this point on, any further references to \slanted{The Canterbury Tales}, will be made from this edition and line numbers only will be provided.}\stoplines\stopnarrower And here is the one after Example 2 And here is the sentence before\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]A Somonour was ther with us in that place, \crlfThat hadde a fyr-reed cherubynnes face, \crlfFor saucefleem he was, with eyen narwe. \crlfAs hoot he was and lecherous as a sparwe, \crlfWith scalled browes blake and piled berd. \crlfOf his visage children were aferd.%\footnote{Burgess, A., \slanted{The Riverside Chaucer}, p.\ 33 (623--628). From this point on, any further references to \slanted{The Canterbury Tales}, will be made from this edition and line numbers only will be provided.}\stopnarrower And here is the one after \stoptext TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : linetest output : pdftex interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx)entering extended mode(./linetest.texConTeXt ver: 2005.06.27 fmt: 2005.7.14 int: english mes: englishlanguage : language en is activesystem : cont-new loaded(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/cont-new.texsystems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!color : palette rollover is available)system : cont-old loaded(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/cont-old.texloading : Context Old Macros)system : cont-fil loaded(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/cont-fil.texloading : Context File Synonyms)system : cont-sys.rme loaded(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))bodyfont : 12pt rm is loadedlanguage : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:2 uk->ec:ec->2->2:2 de->texnansi:texnansi->3->2:2 de->ec:ec->4->2:2 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:2 fr->ec:ec->6->2:2 es->ec:ec->7->2:2 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:2 pt->ec:ec->9->2:2 it->texnansi:texnansi->10->2:2 it->ec:ec->11->2:2 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:2 nl->ec:ec->13->2:2 cz->il2:il2->14->2:2 cz->ec:ec->15->2:2 sk->il2:il2->16->2:2 sk->ec:ec->17->2:2 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:2 pl->ec:ec->19->2:2 loadedspecials : tex,postscript,rokicki loadedsystem : linetest.top loaded(./linetest.topspecials : loading definition file tpd(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.texspecials : loading definition file fdf(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)specials : fdf loaded)specials : fdf,tpd loaded) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo)(./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo)(./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo) (./linetest.tuo)(./linetest.tuo)Process aborted *** Charles Doherty, Early Irish History, School of History, John Henry Newman Building, University College Dublin, Belfield, Dublin 4 Tel: +353 1 716 8381 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] indentaion
Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, In the process of fixing odd/even indentation (handy for verse) i also cleanup the code a bit. I'm wondering if we can make \setupindenting and \indenting equivalent. Is anyone using \indenting[no] to suppress the next indentation? I used to in the very early beginnings. But very quickly i got lazy and reverted to using \noindent instead. I wouldn't mind having it go away or changing. Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] indentaion
Hi, In the process of fixing odd/even indentation (handy for verse) i also cleanup the code a bit. I'm wondering if we can make \setupindenting and \indenting equivalent. Is anyone using \indenting[no] to suppress the next indentation? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Basic question on Unicode and ConTeXt
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: (concerning eregi-* files: you can define filesynonyms so we need a list of filesynonyms and regimesynonyms) What do you mean by writing file synonyms? Where would it be used? \definefilesynonym [mojka] [mojca] \definefilesynonym [moika] [mojca] \definefilesynonym [moica] [mojca] Ok, if you are provocating, I'll strike back: None of the definitions above are allowed because they don't warn the user if he's using the wrong name. They should throw an error instead. The only proper way would be to define something like \setuplabeltext[\s!en][\v!pronouncemyname=moitsa] \setuplabeltext[\s!de][\v!pronouncemyname=mojza] \setuplabeltext[\s!ru][\v!pronouncemyname=мойца] ... so how about using: \translate[en=moitsa,de=mojza,ru=мойца] then -) OK. I'll prepare \defineregimesynonym-s proposals, but I still don't know what the file synonyms should be used for in this context. The user probably doesn't need to care about file names? depends on if you want to preload all those vectors (take quite some memory although i may find a way around that [maybe delayed loading] So why not mapping the characters to unicode first and defining the mapping from unicode to \TeXcommand only once? regi-* files (at least in the meaning they have now) could be prepared automatically by a script, less error-prone and without the need to say "Some more definitions will be added later." you mean ... \defineactivetoken 123 {\uchar{...}{...}} it is an option but it's much slower and take much more memory \uchar{2}{33} takes 1 hash pointer and 7 char slots (so probably 8 mem locations) while \eacute takes one mem location Is it possible to switch the regimes in the middle of the document (like it is possible to switch the languages)? An example usage would be if some input documents (plain text, some older TeX files or database entries) are written in some other encoding than the main stream. (Possibly switching in such a way that no leftovers remain after the old encoding is replaced by a new one.) switching is possible but in that case you probably want to set toc/index/etc expansion to yes Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] colorizing item numbers
Jason Knight wrote: Thanks for the pointer. The color option was not one I found in the manual, and my combing through the source code wasn't as fruitful as I woulda hoped. many commands have a style and color key Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context