Re: [NTG-context] latest beta (2008-01-09 19:58)

2008-01-10 Thread luigi scarso
How many languages did
 you learn and use during the last years? I'm waiting for lispTeX,
 pythonTeX,
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso#Luatex_hosts_python


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Re: [NTG-context] latest beta (2008-01-09 19:58)

2008-01-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 
 you can also test this (there is a file 'context' somewhere as stub)

 mtxrun --script context blabla.tex

 i.e. this is the upcoming replacement of texexec in case of luatex/ 
 mkiv

 Hans
 
 Yes, it works if I call it with
 
 mtxrun --script context --run blabla.tex
 
 (so the default needs to be set explicitly). How many languages did  
 you learn and use during the last years? I'm waiting for lispTeX,  
 pythonTeX, schemeTeX etc. :-)

it depends ... i sometimes have to do things in asp but there will be no 
asptex -)

we will probably stick with lua (and rewrite the ruby script etc) ... 
easier to package and distribute and less bloated than other languages

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Re: [NTG-context] Opportunity to include ConTeXt code into a LaTeXe environment

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 9, 2008 11:00 PM, Martin Scholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:15:49 +0100, luigi scarso
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2007 11:55 AM, cyberplaque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi @ all,
 
  I'm glad about the opportunities ConTeXt gives me to create Coverpages. Now
  that I have a working example of a coverpage my question is, if it is
  possible to include that ConTeXt-code into Latex to create a book. If yes,
  how is the procedure to do so.
 hmm, i think that the only pratical way consists in make a pdf with
 context and then include it into latex.
 
 BTW, i'm starting to think about the opposite:
 how to include Latex code into Context code .

 Hi Luigi,

 would be nice to let me know if you found an opportortunity to do so.
 because I'm much more familiar to the LaTeXe-syntax and just started
 with context a few weeks ago. And all in all I just don't wan't to
 miss all the syntax of LaTeXe...

A ConTeXt user wrote a few years ago a module to use LaTeX syntax
in ConTeXt, a can't find it on the web but I have a it still on my machine.

I never tried more than the test files in the package and don't know
if it still works perfect but it shows it can be done.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Opportunity to include ConTeXt code into a LaTeXe environment

2008-01-10 Thread luigi scarso
  BTW, i'm starting to think about the opposite:
 A ConTeXt user wrote a few years ago a module to use LaTeX syntax
 in ConTeXt, a can't find it on the web but I have a it still on my machine.


 I never tried more than the test files in the package and don't know
 if it still works perfect but it shows it can be done.

Can you  put it on wiki ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Windows installer updated

2008-01-10 Thread David Roderick
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Jan 8, 2008 1:43 PM, David Roderick wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Jan 7, 2008 9:47 PM, David Roderick wrote:
  pop-up texlua.exe Application Error
  The application failed to initialize properly (0xc022)
 
  Hello,
 
  First: thanks a lot for reporting. (I have no windows here, but I had
  so many problems with rsync on windows ... that I might be willing to
  torture you until it works, just as I have tortured the windows
  machine I have been working on a while back :)
 
  I'm clueless about this (apart from the fact that it might be a rsync
  problem). Which windows are you using (XP or Vista)? (Not that I know
  if it's relevant at all.)
 
  Can you please try to dowload this:
 http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip
  and try to run texlua.exe first?
 Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
 (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
 2001 Microsoft Corp.

 C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\binset CYGWIN=nontsec
 set CYGWIN=nontsec

 C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bin  rsync -av 
 rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/texlua.exe .
   rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/texlua.exe .
 receiving file list ... done
 texlua.exe

 sent 150 bytes  received 143 bytes  34.47 bytes/sec
 total size is 2560  speedup is 8.74

 C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bintexlua
 texlua
 Missing script file

 Great. This means that rsync works OK (otherwise you would be getting
 the same error report as last time: The application failed to
 initialize properly). What makes mo wonder now is: why doesn't the
 installer work? Perhaps the environmental variables aren't set up
 properly?

 You may try one more thing: can you try to set
 CYGWIN=nontsec
 globally (I have no windows here to tell you the exact procedure - if
 you don't know how to do that, please ask again; it's somewhere in
 System-Advanced-Environmental variables-...).

 and then rum the installer again? But it really makes mo wonder where
 it goes wrong.
done 
no reboot

C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bintexlua
texlua

C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\binls
ls
cygwin1.dll
kpathsea356.dll
luatex.dll
mtx-update.lua
mtxrun.cmd
mtxrun.lua
rsync.exe
texlua.exe

C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bintexlua.exe
texlua.exe

C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\binrsync -av 
rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/texlua.exe 
rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/texlua.exe 
receiving file list ... done
-rwxr-xr-x2560 2007/09/08 02:06:20 texlua.exe

sent 116 bytes  received 85 bytes  36.55 bytes/sec
total size is 2560  speedup is 12.74

C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bin


C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\binrsync -av --exclude 'rsync.exe' 
--exclude 'cygwin1.dll' rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/
rsync -av --exclude 'rsync.exe' --exclude 'cygwin1.dll' 
rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/
receiving file list ... done
drwxr-xr-x4096 2007/11/12 15:26:19 .
-rw-r--r--   68096 2007/12/23 13:31:00 kpathsea356.dll
-rw-r--r-- 2997248 2007/12/18 12:24:18 luatex.dll
-rw-r--r--   10373 2008/01/02 21:26:29 mtx-update.lua
-rwxr-xr-x  79 2007/06/26 08:47:33 mtxrun.cmd
-rwxr-xr-x  250716 2007/12/29 21:33:01 mtxrun.lua
-rwxr-xr-x2560 2007/09/08 02:06:20 texlua.exe

sent 138 bytes  received 211 bytes  63.45 bytes/sec
total size is 3329072  speedup is 9538.89

C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bin

 I had a winows machine yesterday, but apparently the network had rsync
 port closed, so rsync didn't work at all (and installer reported:
 installed successfully).

  Then, please try to run the following (from command and cd
  path-to-unzipped-stuff\bin):
 set CYGWIN=nontsec
 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/texlua.exe 
  .
  and then see if texlua still has any problems. If not,
 Yes it still has problems therefore I did not do the following.

 That report is not a problem (only wrong usage, or missing argument),
 but texlua could have been more informative about that error, yes.
 Last time when you reported the error texlua apparently didn't work at
 all.

  try to run
  (single line, it will probably be broken in this mail):
 rsync -av --exclude 'rsync.exe' --exclude 'cygwin1.dll'
  rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/ .

I tried this step before with global variable as CYGWIN=nontsec
 
C:\cygwin\home\David\download\lua\context\bin rsync -av --exclude 'rsync.exe' 
--exclude 'cygwin1.dll' rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/ .
 rsync -av --exclude 'rsync.exe' --exclude 'cygwin1.dll' 
rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/mswin/bin/ .
receiving file list ... done
./
kpathsea356.dll
luatex.dll
mtx-update.lua
mtxrun.cmd
mtxrun.lua

sent 13490 bytes  received 9259 bytes  3033.20 

Re: [NTG-context] Opportunity to include ConTeXt code into a LaTeXe environment

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 10, 2008 11:51 AM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   BTW, i'm starting to think about the opposite:
  A ConTeXt user wrote a few years ago a module to use LaTeX syntax
  in ConTeXt, a can't find it on the web but I have a it still on my machine.

 
  I never tried more than the test files in the package and don't know
  if it still works perfect but it shows it can be done.

 Can you  put it on wiki ?

Done,

http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/-latex%20in%20context.zip

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Opportunity to include ConTeXt code into a LaTeXe environment

2008-01-10 Thread luigi scarso
 http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/-latex%20in%20context.zip

hmm, try
http://dpdx.net/software/context/latex-compat/readme.txt

BTW, it's  what i mean.

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Re: [NTG-context] Opportunity to include ConTeXt code into a LaTeXe environment

2008-01-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote:
 http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/-latex%20in%20context.zip
 
 hmm, try
 http://dpdx.net/software/context/latex-compat/readme.txt
 
 BTW, it's  what i mean.

I have some updated files somewhere, with full support
for LaTeX's tabular, I needed that for a project. There
is a bit more to it, I'll try to uncover them.

Best wishes,
Taco
PS I've been offline for almost a week, otherwise I would have replied 
earlier

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[NTG-context] Tables and misplaced \noalign

2008-01-10 Thread Jürgen Strass
Hi,

when I'm trying to use tables (\starttables ... \stoptables), I'm often 
getting the following error:

---

! Misplaced \noalign.
\TABLEnoalign -\noalign
 \bgroup \let \noalign \relax \let \next =
\insertTABLEtail -\TABLEnoalign
 {\global \settrue \preventTABLEbreak 
\globa...

\stoptables ...erepeattail \else \insertTABLEtail
  \fi \finishTABLE 
\egroup \...
l.148 \stoptables

---

On the mailing list archives, I already found some code posted by Hans 
Hagen that solves the issue in case of the \starttable ... \stoptable 
command. I had to insert the following code in my cont-new.tex file:

\def\stoptable
  {\chuckTABLEautorow % before the tail
   \insertTABLEtail
   \TABLEnoalign{\globalletempty\@@TABLEhead}%
   \TABLEnoalign{\globalletempty\@@TABLEtail}%
   \finishTABLE
   \doifelsenothing\@@tiframe
 {\ifinsidefloat\else
\stopbaselinecorrection
\goodbreak % compensates all the nobreaks
  \fi}
 \stopframedcontent
   \egroup}

For the tables commands it doesn't work though, even not after 
changing \def\stoptable to \def\stoptables. Does anyone have an idea 
what to do about it?

ctxtools gives the following details about my context version under WinXP:

CtxTools | context version: 2007.01.12 15:56 
(c:/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/cont
ext/base/context.tex)
CtxTools | context version: 2007.01.12 15:56 
(c:/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/cont
ext/base/cont-new.tex)

Thanks in advance for any help,
Jürgen

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Re: [NTG-context] Tables and misplaced \noalign

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 10, 2008 6:43 PM, Jürgen Strass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 when I'm trying to use tables (\starttables ... \stoptables), I'm often
 getting the following error:

 ---

 ! Misplaced \noalign.
 \TABLEnoalign -\noalign
  \bgroup \let \noalign \relax \let \next =
 \insertTABLEtail -\TABLEnoalign
  {\global \settrue \preventTABLEbreak
 \globa...

 \stoptables ...erepeattail \else \insertTABLEtail
   \fi \finishTABLE
 \egroup \...
 l.148 \stoptables

 ---

 On the mailing list archives, I already found some code posted by Hans
 Hagen that solves the issue in case of the \starttable ... \stoptable
 command. I had to insert the following code in my cont-new.tex file:

 \def\stoptable
   {\chuckTABLEautorow % before the tail
\insertTABLEtail
\TABLEnoalign{\globalletempty\@@TABLEhead}%
\TABLEnoalign{\globalletempty\@@TABLEtail}%
\finishTABLE
\doifelsenothing\@@tiframe
  {\ifinsidefloat\else
 \stopbaselinecorrection
 \goodbreak % compensates all the nobreaks
   \fi}
  \stopframedcontent
\egroup}

 For the tables commands it doesn't work though, even not after
 changing \def\stoptable to \def\stoptables. Does anyone have an idea
 what to do about it?

 ctxtools gives the following details about my context version under WinXP:

 CtxTools | context version: 2007.01.12 15:56
 (c:/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/cont
 ext/base/context.tex)
 CtxTools | context version: 2007.01.12 15:56
 (c:/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/cont
 ext/base/cont-new.tex)

 Thanks in advance for any help,
 Jürgen

Hi Jürgen,

could you try to update your ConTeXt first and if the problem
remains send a example to the list.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Unicode.otf

2008-01-10 Thread luigi scarso
There is a better font if you need only symbols, choose the Unicode
 Symbols link on the following page.

 http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

I'm trying to use  Unicode.otf from http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d
I just copied it into
texmf/fonts/opentype/unicodesymbols/Unicode.otf
run
luatools --generate
and test

%%%test0012.tex
\definefont[WhatEver][Unicode]
\starttext
\WhatEver Hello
\stoptext

with
texmfstart texexec --luatex test0012.tex

Result:
!luaTeX error (file
/opt/texlive/ContextMKiv/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/unicodesymbols/Unicode.otf):
can't find table `CFF '
 == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

(I'm using
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.2-2007121721 (Web2C 7.5.6)
ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.02 14:18 MKIV  fmt: 2008.1.10  int: english/english
)

Hence, I saved Unicode.otf as UnicodeSymbols.otf with fontforge (saved
as Opentype CFF)
%%%test0012.tex
\definefont[WhatEver][UnicodeSymbol at 100pt]
\starttext
\WhatEver Hello
\stoptext
now works .
Do I have make some mistake ?
And How can I quicky  access symbols like U+25c9 ?



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Re: [NTG-context] Opportunity to include ConTeXt code into a LaTeXe environment

2008-01-10 Thread luigi scarso
 A ConTeXt user wrote a few years ago a module to use LaTeX syntax
 in ConTeXt, a can't find it on the web but I have a it still on my machine.
Looks like a line-by-line  translator.
What  mean is something like an emulator .

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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode.otf

2008-01-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
  This seems to be a slight misfeature in Mark IV: I take that when
opening a font file with an .otf extension, it assumes it is an OpenType
font with PostScript outlines (cubic splines); when the file has a .ttf
extension, it supposes there are TrueType outlines (quadratic splines).
Both types of outlines are mutually exclusive and are contained in
different tables of the font file (respectively, 'CFF' and 'glyf').
This is indeed a widespread convention (including FontForge's), but this
font doesn't follow it, since it has TrueType outlines and an .otf
extension; hence the error message (ConTeXt is looking for a CFF table
and can't find it, since there is a glyf table instead).

  When you edited the font in Fontforge and exported it as
UnicodeSymbols.otf, it was converted to a CFF-based OpenType font, so
ConTeXt could use it.

  I consider this a bug in Mark IV (I think the problem is really in
ConTeXt, not LuaTeX).  It should be able to use the original font, even
if this extension thing is annoying.

 And How can I quicky  access symbols like U+25c9 ?

  One would think you knew that, Luigi!  Just use 25c9, for example.

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode.otf

2008-01-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Jan 11, 2008 5:03 AM, Arthur Reutenauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This seems to be a slight misfeature in Mark IV: I take that when
 opening a font file with an .otf extension, it assumes it is an OpenType
 font with PostScript outlines (cubic splines); when the file has a .ttf
 extension, it supposes there are TrueType outlines (quadratic splines).
 Both types of outlines are mutually exclusive and are contained in
 different tables of the font file (respectively, 'CFF' and 'glyf').
 This is indeed a widespread convention (including FontForge's), but this
 font doesn't follow it, since it has TrueType outlines and an .otf
 extension; hence the error message (ConTeXt is looking for a CFF table
 and can't find it, since there is a glyf table instead).


   When you edited the font in Fontforge and exported it as
 UnicodeSymbols.otf, it was converted to a CFF-based OpenType font, so
 ConTeXt could use it.

   I consider this a bug in Mark IV (I think the problem is really in
 ConTeXt, not LuaTeX).  It should be able to use the original font, even
 if this extension thing is annoying.
Is there another solution other than fontforge ?
I mean, I was not able to use original font without processing it with
font forge.


  And How can I quicky  access symbols like U+25c9 ?

   One would think you knew that, Luigi!  Just use 25c9, for example.
ok.
I mean using by using characters.data in char-def.lua:

  [0x25C9] = { unicodeslot=0x25C9, category='so', description='FISHEYE' },

it should be easy with a bit \ctxlua get glyph by description .

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