[NTG-context] How to randomize points in a given area?

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Hans,

In your "metapost graphics" pdf document, I can find a card which
randomizes points in a path of Christmas tree, how to do that? thanks.

Yue Wang
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Re: [NTG-context] catcode change in macros

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 19:37 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I make in a module the comment sign a simple letter to pass
>>> number formats to a lua function and want to know if should
>>> use another (better) way to change the catodes.
>>
>> I think it will be cleaner to use catcode tables. See syst-cat.mkiv.
>
> and syst-cat.tex

I already know them but you're right, it's better
to use them and avoid low level code.

P.S. Should I now send all my questions to you or
  still use the mailing list :)

Thanks and regards,
Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] catcode change in macros

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I make in a module the comment sign a simple letter to pass
>> number formats to a lua function and want to know if should
>> use another (better) way to change the catodes.
>
> I think it will be cleaner to use catcode tables. See syst-cat.mkiv.

and syst-cat.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] catcode change in macros

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I make in a module the comment sign a simple letter to pass
> number formats to a lua function and want to know if should
> use another (better) way to change the catodes.

I think it will be cleaner to use catcode tables. See syst-cat.mkiv.

Aditya
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[NTG-context] catcode change in macros

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hi,

I make in a module the comment sign a simple letter to pass
number formats to a lua function and want to know if should
use another (better) way to change the catodes.


\def\ax{ax}

\bgroup

\catcode`\%=11
\catcode`\:=14

\gdef\setupaxis
   {\catcode`\%=11
\catcode`\:=14
\dodoubleargument\dosetupaxis}

\gdef\dosetupaxis[#1][#2]:
   {\catcode`\%=11
\catcode`\:=14
\def\docommand##1{\getparameters[\ax##1][#2]}:
\catcode`\%=14
\catcode`\:=12
\processcommalist[#1]\docommand}

\egroup

\setupaxis
   [\c!x,\c!y]
   [\c!format=%d]


Regards,
Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with: \completepublications in index

[mattia schirosa]

I just want the bibliography in index with A,
and not with a number.

Here the example that should be work but it doesn't: i can't see the 
bibliography list in bibliography chapter. why?
and if i comment %\startappendices %\stopappendices it works but i have not 
correct numbering in index!

\enableregime    [utf]        
\mainlanguage    [it]    

\usemodule[bib]
\setupheadtext[it][pubs={Bibliografia}]
\setupbibtex [database=PaesaggioSonoro, sort=author]

\starttext
\title {Indice}
\placecontent
\startbodymatter
\chapter{first}
\cite[LoValle_AudioMultimedia]
\chapter{second}
\cite[SaggiEcoMusica]
\chapter{3}
\stopbodymatter
\startappendices
\chapter{Biblio}
\placepublications
\stopappendices
\stoptext


Thanks for your work.
Best regards
Mattia

--- Ven 14/11/08, Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
Da: Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oggetto: Re: [NTG-context] Problems with: \completepublications in index
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "mailing list for ConTeXt users" 
Data: Venerdì 14 novembre 2008, 11:58

Am 14.11.2008 um 11:50 schrieb mattia schirosa:

> Hi,
> i try to put my bibliography in index and in end of the book.
> So:
> -it works only with \completepublications, but i have no reference in
index

What do you want in index?

> - if i call a chapter{Bibliography} and then i call the bibliography with
\placepublications, it doesn't work, context don't make me see the
biblio in pdf.
> - if i comment %\startappendices %\stopappendices it works but i
have not correct numbering in index!
> There is a bug?
> 
> \stopbodymatter
> \startappendices
> 
> %\chapter{Bibliografia}   NO WORKING with \startappendices
> \completepublications
> 
> %\placepublications  NO WORKING with \stopappendices
> 
> \stopappendices

Send a complete example.

Wolfgang




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[NTG-context] How to produce two side-by-side boxes

[Yi Zhang]

Hi,

How can I produce two side-by-side boxes, one flushed to the left and
the other to the right? Thanks,

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] How to box \useMPgraphic?

[Hans Hagen]

Oliver Buerschaper wrote:

> So is this the preferred command for all (horizontal) boxing related  
> tasks in ConTeXt (over hbox)?

if you want to position yes .. howeler, take a look in supp-box for more 
low level stuff

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: linespacing in (foot)notes

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 17:07 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I try to change the linedistance in my footnotes but this
>> is a pain with the current interface, I slightly modified
>> the \setnotebodyfont macro and hope this could also be
>> done in core-not.
>
> You can also exploit the before key for this.
>
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070314.020258.3501cc05.en.html

I already tried the before key but it comes to early and
\restoreglobalbodyfont cancels the setting.

I tried also \setupbodyfontenvironment but I don't want
this because I could have also normal running text in
the same size as the footnote but the linedistance need
to be bigger.

>> \def\setnotebodyfont
>>  {\let\setnotebodyfont\relax
>>   \restoreglobalbodyfont
>>   \switchtobodyfont[\noteparameter\c!bodyfont]%
>>   \setuptolerance[\noteparameter\c!tolerance]%
>>   \setupalign[\noteparameter\c!align]%
>>   \noteparameter\c!commands} % <- new
>
> I would suggest using setups key rather than commands. In fact, I  
> wish all
> commands had a setup=... key. Tweaking the before key is not always
> convinient.

I don't care if the key is commands, setups, inbetween ...
as long as it possible to change the linedistance I'm happy
but something need to be done and I mean now and not in
a few months/years, we live long enough with this restriction.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] no en dash with otf fonts

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Yi Zhang wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using some otf fonts but '--' does not produce the en dash. How
> can I get over this problem? Thanks,

Do you have feature=default in your typescripts?

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] debugging

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Alan STONE wrote:

> Another debugging question: how do you return the filename of the file being
> compiled ?

\jobname

There is also

\currentproject 
\currentproduct 
\currentenvironment 
\currentcomponent

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] define command

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Alan STONE wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For example
>
> \define\somemacro[3]{...}
>
> gets invoked with
>
> \somemacro{#1}{#2}{#3}
>
> How do you get rid of those repeating pesky curly brackets and
> invoke a user defined macro with
>
> \somemacro{#1,#2,#3}
>
> instead ?  :O)

Others have replied how to define this if you want arbitrary number of 
parameters. But if you want something similar to \somemacro#1#2#3 you can 
use (the is some extra book-keeing because you want {..} as delimiters. 
Which means you either change catcodes, or do this shuffling around of 
arguments)

\def\somemacro#1%
{\dosomemaco[#1]}

\def\dosomemacro[#1,#2,#3]%
   {whatever you want the macro to be}

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Re: [NTG-context] no en dash with otf fonts

[Yi Zhang]

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:28 AM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Yi Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using some otf fonts but '--' does not produce the en dash. How
>> can I get over this problem? Thanks,
>>
>>
>> what fonts ?
>
> did you specify tlig=yes ?
>
> (btw, there are fonts with multiple dashes and hyphens (multiple unicode
> points for the same glyph) and to some extend - + - with - being one or
> the other works ok)
>

Hi all,

tlig works! Thanks so much for all the replies!

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: linespacing in (foot)notes

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I try to change the linedistance in my footnotes but this
> is a pain with the current interface, I slightly modified
> the \setnotebodyfont macro and hope this could also be
> done in core-not.

You can also exploit the before key for this.

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070314.020258.3501cc05.en.html


> \def\setnotebodyfont
>   {\let\setnotebodyfont\relax
>\restoreglobalbodyfont
>\switchtobodyfont[\noteparameter\c!bodyfont]%
>\setuptolerance[\noteparameter\c!tolerance]%
>\setupalign[\noteparameter\c!align]%
>\noteparameter\c!commands} % <- new

I would suggest using setups key rather than commands. In fact, I wish all 
commands had a setup=... key. Tweaking the before key is not always 
convinient.

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Re: [NTG-context] debugging

[Alan STONE]

Another debugging question: how do you return the filename of the file being
compiled ?

-- 
Best,
Alan

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Re: [NTG-context] How to box \useMPgraphic?

[Oliver Buerschaper]

Am 13.11.2008 um 18:14 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

>
> Am 13.11.2008 um 17:18 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'd like to insert a little MetaPost square into the running text and
>> properly align it vertically. So I tried:
>>
>> ---
>>
>> \startuseMPgraphic{square}
>>draw unitsquare scaled StrutHeight;
>> \stopuseMPgraphic
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> I want a square \raisebox{-\strutdepth}{\useMPgraphic{square}} in my
>> running text.
>
> I want a square \raisebox{-.5\strutdp}\hbox{\useMPgraphic{square}}  
> in my
> running text.

Thanks!

I was close: if I had only left out the outer braces in  
{\hbox{\useMPgraphic{square}}} ...

Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] ansi codes

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> lesser geeks loom in s-fnt-10.tex -)
>
> Hans

Hi Hans,

the file s-fnt-10.lua needs to be added to the distribution.

Best

Thomas


function fonts.otf.show_all()

local tfmdata = fonts.tfm.id[font.current()]

if tfmdata and tfmdata.shared then
local otfdata = tfmdata.shared.otfdata
if otfdata and otfdata.luatex then
local unicodes = otfdata.luatex.unicodes
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,string.format("\\starttabulate[| 
l|r|c|]"))
for i, name in ipairs(table.sortedkeys(unicodes)) do
local unicode = unicodes[name]
if unicode >= 0 then
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,string.format("\\NC %s \ 
\NC %s \\NC \\char%s \\NC\\NR",name,unicode,unicode))
end
end
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,string.format("\\stoptabulate"))
end
end

end

function fonts.show_all()

local tfmdata = fonts.tfm.id[font.current()]

if tfmdata and tfmdata.shared then
local chars = tfmdata.characters
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,string.format("\\starttabulate[|l|r| 
r|c|]"))
for k, v in ipairs(table.sortedkeys(chars)) do
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,string.format("\\NC %s\\NC %s\ 
\NC \\char%s\\NC %s\\NC\\NR",chars[v].name or  
"unknown",v,v,chars[v].index))
end
tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,string.format("\\stoptabulate"))
end

end

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Re: [NTG-context] How to box \useMPgraphic?

[Oliver Buerschaper]

>> I'd like to insert a little MetaPost square into the running text and
>> properly align it vertically. So I tried:
>>
>> ---
>>
>> \startuseMPgraphic{square}
>> draw unitsquare scaled StrutHeight;
>> \stopuseMPgraphic
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> I want a square \raisebox{-\strutdepth}{\useMPgraphic{square}} in my
>> running text.
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Unfortunately, to no avail. TeX seems to be asking for some boxed
>> content, so I tried to wrap the figure inclusion into a box:
>> \hbox{\useMPgraphic{square}}. It doesn't solve the problem either.
>
> \inframed[frame=off]{\useMPgraphic{square}}

Thanks!

So is this the preferred command for all (horizontal) boxing related  
tasks in ConTeXt (over hbox)?

Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] Kerning

[Hans Hagen]

Bart C. Wise wrote:

> I tried the above code and it failed.  I looked around on the ConTeXt site 
> and 
> the web in general.  It seems like a \defineproperty[stretch] needs to be 
> declared, but I can't find it anywhere.  You'll have to excuse my ignorance, 
> but will you be explicit on how to use the \startproperty[stretch] stretch 
> \stopproperty.

hm, something is missing in the mkii file

\unprotect \definepropertyhandler \v!stretch{0} \protect

(you can also tune the 'normal effect')

consider all this a hack, since tex does not know about the right 
dimensions

in mkiv there's

\start \dosetstretch{.25em} \setuptolerance[tolerant,stretch] \input 
tufte \endgraf \stop
\start \dosetstretch{.5em} effe flink doorfietsen \stop

(not yet interfaced but it should work)

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Re: [NTG-context] layout parameter testing

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 15:06 schrieb Alan STONE:

> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Am 13.11.2008 um 20:52 schrieb Alan STONE:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > With \definelayout[myLayout][...], how do you test whether one of
> > its parameters has a certain value, is greater than 0, etc... ?
>
> \definelayout
>   [mylayout]
>   [backspace=3cm,
>width=12cm]
>
> \starttext
>
> \doifdimensionelse{\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}} % width
> could be 'fit'
>   {\ifdim\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}<10cm
>  ...
>\else
>  ...
>\fi}
>   {\processaction
>  [\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}]
>  [fit=>...,
>   unknown=>...]}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Re: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Action_Processing
>
> What is 'fit' ?


You could set the the width of the textarea in
three different ways:

1) as absolute value,

2) as remaining space between backspace and cutspace
(useful in presentations) and

3) as remaining space between equal margins.


\definelayout[1][backspace=4cm,width=12cm]
\definelayout[2][backspace=5cm,cutspace=7cm,width=fit]
\definelayout[3][backspace=3cm,width=middle]

\showframe

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}
   {\starttabulate
\NC backspace \EQ \PtToCm\backspace \NC\NR
\NC textwidth \EQ \PtToCm\textwidth \NC\NR
\NC cutspace  \EQ \PtToCm\cutspace  \NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\page}

\stoptext


Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] layout parameter testing

[Alan STONE]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Am 13.11.2008 um 20:52 schrieb Alan STONE:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > With \definelayout[myLayout][...], how do you test whether one of
> > its parameters has a certain value, is greater than 0, etc... ?
>
> \definelayout
>   [mylayout]
>   [backspace=3cm,
>width=12cm]
>
> \starttext
>
> \doifdimensionelse{\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}} % width
> could be 'fit'
>   {\ifdim\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}<10cm
>  ...
>\else
>  ...
>\fi}


>   {\processaction
>  [\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}]
>  [fit=>...,
>   unknown=>...]}


Re: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Action_Processing

What is 'fit' ?

\stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>

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Re: [NTG-context] \definefont problem with latest beta (mkiv)

[Peter Rolf]

Hans Hagen schrieb:
> Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Peter Rolf schrieb:
>>> Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
 Peter Rolf wrote:
> I followed that one. But my problem is more the *wrong strut height*,
> e.g. using a \totalstrut value of 12pt with a 8pt font. The strut height
> is simply not adapted to the actual font size anymore (even if I use
> \setstrut).
 I can understand why you think this is a different problem, but both
 struts and interline spaces depend on the value of "1ex", which has
 changed in an incompatible way. Perhaps you should post a complete
 minimal example.

>>> But (unless the font data is really bad) we are talking about slight
>>> differences. And you can't call a 12.6pt strut for a 8pt font a slight
>>> change. :)
>>>
>>> I will (try to) make a minimal example...
>>>
>> Looks like this is font related. I have tried the attached example with
>> LM and there where no noticible differences (not at first sight). Same
>> example with Tahoma and things go the wrong way.
> 
> nothing wrong ... it's just that afm2tfm (or whatever you use for mkii) 
> uses some funny method for calculating the ex height
> 
> in mkiv we use the xheight spec from the font (defined in the font in 
> this case) or the height of an 'x'
> 
> \showstruts
> 2.8ex: \the\dimexpr2.8ex\par
> \strut qgjyQWT\par
> 1ex: \the\dimexpr 1ex\par
> \setbox0\hbox{x}ht(x):\the\ht0\par
> 2.8*ht(x): \the\dimexpr2.8\ht0
> 
> if you look at the font it's pretty clear that it has a large x-height 
> so you can best use a different interline specification, like
> 
> x\strut qgjyQWT\par
> \setupinterlinespace[line=1.2\bodyfontsize]
> x\strut qgjyQWT\par
> 
> you might even want to change the height:depth ratio (keep in mind that 
> we cannot predict these things, so it always is a matter of tuning
>
I see clear now. Would have been much faster, if I hadn't interrupted
this problem by screwing on my new computer (sorry, I couldn't resist).
Anyhow I need to rethink my font concept. If I have to setup all these
parameters, the simple \definefont isn't sufficient anymore. Probably an
external defined \setup will do best.

Thanks to all of you who helped me with this problem, also for your
patience :)


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Re: [NTG-context] define command

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Alan STONE
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> Hi,
>
> For example
>
> \define\somemacro[3]{...}
>
> gets invoked with
>
> \somemacro{#1}{#2}{#3}
>
> How do you get rid of those repeating pesky curly brackets and
> invoke a user defined macro with
>
> \somemacro{#1,#2,#3}
>


Not what you want, but I have found useful this

\def\SomeMacro[#1]{%
\getparameters[SOMEMACRO][#1]
%%
%%now you have \csname SOMEMACRO{}\endcsname
%%
%%
}

\SomeMacro[foo=2,boo=4,goo=\TeX, my name is =joe]

\SOMEMACROfoo
\SOMEMACROboo
\SOMEMACROgoo
\csname SOMEMACROmy name is\endcsname


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Re: [NTG-context] define command

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 12:58 schrieb Alan STONE:

> Hi,
>
> For example
>
> \define\somemacro[3]{...}
>
> gets invoked with
>
> \somemacro{#1}{#2}{#3}
>
> How do you get rid of those repeating pesky curly brackets and
> invoke a user defined macro with
>
> \somemacro{#1,#2,#3}


\starttext

\def\somemacro#1%
   {\def\dosomemacro##1{(##1)}%
\processcommalist[#1]\dosomemacro}

\somemacro{A,B,C}

\stoptext

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Comma_Separated_Lists
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Inside_ConTeXt

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[NTG-context] define command

[Alan STONE]

Hi,

For example

\define\somemacro[3]{...}

gets invoked with

\somemacro{#1}{#2}{#3}

How do you get rid of those repeating pesky curly brackets and
invoke a user defined macro with

\somemacro{#1,#2,#3}

instead ?  :O)

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with: \completepublications in index

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 11:50 schrieb mattia schirosa:

> Hi,
> i try to put my bibliography in index and in end of the book.
> So:
> -it works only with \completepublications, but i have no reference  
> in index

What do you want in index?

> - if i call a chapter{Bibliography} and then i call the bibliography  
> with \placepublications, it doesn't work, context don't make me see  
> the biblio in pdf.
> - if i comment %\startappendices %\stopappendices it works but i  
> have not correct numbering in index!
> There is a bug?
>
> \stopbodymatter
> \startappendices
>
> %\chapter{Bibliografia}   NO WORKING with \startappendices
> \completepublications
>
> %\placepublications  NO WORKING with \stopappendices
>
> \stopappendices

Send a complete example.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with: \completepublications in index

[Taco Hoekwater]

mattia schirosa wrote:
>   Hi,
> i try to put my bibliography in index and in end of the book.
> So:
> -it works only with \completepublications, but i have no reference in index
> - if i call a chapter{Bibliography} and then i call the bibliography 
> with \placepublications, it doesn't work, context don't make me see the 
> biblio in pdf.
> - if i comment %\startappendices %\stopappendices it works but i have 
> not correct numbering in index!
> There is a bug?
> 
> \stopbodymatter
> \startappendices
> 
> %\chapter{Bibliografia}   NO WORKING with \startappendices
> \completepublications
> 
> %\placepublications  NO WORKING with \stopappendices

\placepublications[criterium=all]


should work

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[NTG-context] Problems with: \completepublications in index

[mattia schirosa]

Hi,
i try to put my bibliography in index and in end of the book.
So:
-it works only with \completepublications, but i have no reference in index
- if i call a chapter{Bibliography} and then i call the bibliography with 
\placepublications, it doesn't work, context don't make me see the biblio in 
pdf.
- if i comment %\startappendices %\stopappendices it works but i have not 
correct numbering in index!
There is a bug?

\stopbodymatter
\startappendices

%\chapter{Bibliografia}   NO WORKING with \startappendices
\completepublications 

%\placepublications  NO WORKING with \stopappendices

\stopappendices



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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: 4SIDE

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 01:44 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

>
> Am 14.11.2008 um 01:09 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> it seems that we have a feature request flood;) so I'm putting my
>> $3*10^{-2}.
>>
>> I'd need 4SIDE (analogous to 2SIDE).  How to obtain it?  Could it be
>> added to page-imp.tex?
>
>
> I reused my old code to write a new flexible XSIDE style,
> you could use it 2SIDE, 2SIDE, 4SIDE ...
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Wolfgang_Schuster#Arranging_pages


You could also use the predefined 'xy' arranging.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition

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Re: [NTG-context] Breaking footnotes across pages

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.11.2008 um 01:11 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

> Hi,
>
> I have in a document a very long footnote and want it
> to break over two pages, what do I have to do to change
> the default behaviour?

I tested my document with a few different settings and
it turned out the problem is font dependend, I place my
now on the grid and it seems to work for the moment.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Maurice Diamantini wrote:
> Le 13 nov. 08 à 10:45, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> 
>> Fengnan Gao wrote:
>>> I have some problem when using ConTeXt in tl08,
>>> ...
>>> I don't exactly know what that means but clearly I
>>> cannot use ConTeXt. Can someone help me?
>> just use the minimals ... then you have the latest binaries and  
>> sources
> 
> 
> Is there any advantage (for ConTeXt) of using the Texlive (other
> than being multi-platform!) or other full xTeX distribution?

tex live is fine for mkii but for mkiv you need recent binaries and 
macros (tex live was frozen before the summer)

> If the "minimal ConTeXt" is the only standard way of using a full
> ConTeXt, then it could be rename "maximal" ;-)

well, if you choose to install only one engine, then it's really much 
smaller -)

(a full tex live installation is about 1.5 gig; i just run context dev 
on top of tex live but in projects and such i use minimals)

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Re: [NTG-context] layout parameter testing

[Alan STONE]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Am 13.11.2008 um 20:52 schrieb Alan STONE:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > With \definelayout[myLayout][...], how do you test whether one of
> > its parameters has a certain value, is greater than 0, etc... ?
>
> \definelayout
>   [mylayout]
>   [backspace=3cm,
>width=12cm]
>
> \starttext
>
> \doifdimensionelse{\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}} % width
> could be 'fit'
>   {\ifdim\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}<10cm
>  ...
>\else
>  ...
>\fi}
>   {\processaction
>  [\namedlayoutparameter{mylayout}{width}]
>  [fit=>...,
>   unknown=>...]}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>

Whoopie... way cool! Thanks Wolfgang.

Seems there are "a few" system macros hiding in the source code.

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Re: [NTG-context] Place externalfigure in middle position

[Hans Hagen]

mattia schirosa wrote:
> I looking in documentation for a long time, but i didn't find a command 
> to set a image in middle area without using the \placefigure command.
> Anyone can help me?
> 

\centerbox {...}

\centerbox width 1cm height 20cm {...}


> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startstandardmakeup
> \sc
> \startalignment[middle] Politecnico di Torino \crlf Tesi di laurea 
> specialistica \vfill
>
> \setupheads[alternative=middle]
> \title{Un modello per la generazione dinamica \crlf di paesaggi sonori}
> \blank[line]
> Ingegneria del cinema e dei mezzi di comunicazione
> \blank[line]
> \vfill
> 
> %\useexternalfigure[some logo][logopolito][width=5cm]
> %\placeexternalfigure{'}{\externalfigure[some logo]}
> %   whit this i can put the figure in the middle, but i don't want text
> 
> 
> {\externalfigure[D:/Documenti/ProgettoTesi/MaterialeTeorico/Immagini/logopolito][width=5cm]}
> 
> 
> \vfill
> Autore: Mattia Schirosa
> \blank[line]
> I Relatore: Masoero Marco Carlo
> \crlf
> II Relatore: Andrea Valle
> \crlf
> Torino, 28$/$12$/$2008 \stopalignment \page
> \stopstandardmakeup
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Mattia
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Marcin Borkowski wrote:

> Well, it is "minimal" in the sense of dependencies, I guess.

and also in the sense that there is much left out that would never be 
used at all; once luatex/mkiv is stable and once we have open type math 
fonts, even more font stuff can go away (since xetex does not need it 
either)

keep in mind that small trees run faster (when kpse is used)

also, they archive better (think of running 10 projects on a machine 
where each needs a frozen tree)

another feature of the minimals is that by default they support 
texmf-project and texmf-fonts which makes separation of project specific 
files (and fonts) as well as commercial fonts more convenient.

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: indent parameter for delimitedtexts

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> is it possible to add a indent key to delimitedtexts, I use in
>> one own my documents the following setup
>>
>> \setupdelimitedtext
>>   [blockquote]
>>   [spacebefore=line,
>>before={\setupindenting[next]}]
>>
>> but it makes more sense to have a built-in option to control
>> the indenting of longer quotes.
> 
> I second this.
> 
> Being lazy, I have been sprinkling \noindentation in my texts.
> Actually, it will be nice to have this for start-stop narrower also.

remind me once we have split core-mis in mkii/mkiv

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Re: [NTG-context] Feature request: 4SIDE

[Hans Hagen]

Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> it seems that we have a feature request flood;) so I'm putting my
> $3*10^{-2}.
> 
> I'd need 4SIDE (analogous to 2SIDE).  How to obtain it?  Could it be
> added to page-imp.tex?

sure, but it's up to you and the imposition wizzard Willi to make the 
right definition

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Re: [NTG-context] no en dash with otf fonts

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luigi scarso wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Yi Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using some otf fonts but '--' does not produce the en dash. How
> can I get over this problem? Thanks,
> 
> 
> what fonts ?

did you specify tlig=yes ?

(btw, there are fonts with multiple dashes and hyphens (multiple unicode 
points for the same glyph) and to some extend - + - with - being one or 
the other works ok)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 08:31:54AM +0100, Maurice Diamantini napisał(a):
> 
> Le 13 nov. 08 à 10:45, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> 
> > Fengnan Gao wrote:
> >> I have some problem when using ConTeXt in tl08,
> >> ...
> >> I don't exactly know what that means but clearly I
> >> cannot use ConTeXt. Can someone help me?
> >
> > just use the minimals ... then you have the latest binaries and  
> > sources
> 
> 
> Is there any advantage (for ConTeXt) of using the Texlive (other
> than being multi-platform!) or other full xTeX distribution?

Yes.  If you use _both_ ConTeXt and LaTeX (and some of us - including me
- are kind of forced to use LaTeX, too, because of:
* having a number of old LaTeX files which wuold be a trouble to
  convert;
* sending papers to journals accepting LaTeX;
* writing LaTeX stuff to order)

Personally I'd find it inconvenient to have two TeX trees and having to
change my environment to use one or another.  (Possibly, I could arrange
it so that I don't have to change any environment variables, but still,
since I don't need the state-of-the-art MkIV, texlive is ok for me.)

> 
> If the "minimal ConTeXt" is the only standard way of using a full
> ConTeXt, then it could be rename "maximal" ;-)
> or more seriously something lire "standard", "hot" or
> "independant" (longish)

Well, it is "minimal" in the sense of dependencies, I guess.

> 
> -- Maurice

Greets

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