Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
Le 14 décembre à 21:32:46 pmli...@free.fr (Peter Münster) écrit notamment: | On Wed, Dec 14 2011, Hagmann Jörg wrote: > | > Another possibility is to use org-mode in Emacs, export to Latex and from | > there to ConTeXt. In my case, the last step is accomplished by a home-brewed | > ruby script which covers the most common layout commands > | Have you already considered writing `org-context.el'? Yet another possibility is to use muse in emacs, for which exporting to ConTeXt is *already* there (among many other formats). http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_and_emacs-muse -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] xml attribute conditional
Hans, Thanks for this. It's almost what I need. I truly appreciate the effort, and it does give me some ideas about things to try. However, if I change your example buffer slightly (for clarity) to this: arab foo arab bar english eggs english ham note text ONE note text TWO your code runs and gives me this: [div a] arab [footnote1] arab [footnote2] [div a] [div b] english [note1 eggs ] english [note2 ham ] [div b] 1 foo 2 bar but what I'm trying for is this: [div a] arab [ foo1 ] arab [ bar2 ] [div a] [div b] english [ eggs1 ] english [ ham2 ] [div b] 1 note text ONE 2 note text TWO ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: `\setupheadtext[de][pubs=Quellen]` does not update the table of contents.
On 13-12-2011 14:18, Paul Menzel wrote:
Dear ConTeXt folks,
the following minimal example changes the default text for the title for
the publication list [1]. In the table of content there is still the
default name though.
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbibtex[database=sample, sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa, criterium=all] % Show reference
numbers in the generated list.
\setupheadtext[de][pus=Quellen]
\starttext
\completecontent
\section{Example}
As \cite[hh2010b] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
program.
\blank[4*big]
\CONTEXT\ \contextmark\ \contextversion
\completepublications
\stoptext
A solution for this problem would be much appreciated.
just use \starttitle [title=] ...
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography: `\setupheadtext[de][pubs=Quellen]` does not update the table of contents.
On 13-12-2011 14:18, Paul Menzel wrote:
Dear ConTeXt folks,
the following minimal example changes the default text for the title for
the publication list [1]. In the table of content there is still the
default name though.
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbibtex[database=sample, sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa, criterium=all] % Show reference
numbers in the generated list.
\setupheadtext[de][pus=Quellen]
\starttext
\completecontent
\section{Example}
As \cite[hh2010b] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
program.
\blank[4*big]
\CONTEXT\ \contextmark\ \contextversion
\completepublications
\stoptext
A solution for this problem would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Paul
[1]
http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist summary alternative solution
On 14-12-2011 17:50, Felix Ingram wrote:
I've ended up delving into the dark art that is Lua for this solution:
\define[0]\SummaryTable{%
\placetable[force, none]{}{%
\setupTABLE[frame=off]
\bTABLE
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH Reference\eTH\bTH Title\eTH\bTH Page\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\startluacode
for k, v in ipairs(structures.lists.collected) do
if v.metadata.kind == "section" and v.metadata.name == "section" then
context.bTR()
context.bTD()
context("REFREF")
context.eTD()
context.bTD()
context(v.titledata.title)
context.eTD()
context.bTD()
context(v.references.realpage)
context.eTD()
context.eTR()
end
end
\stopluacode%
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
}%
}%
\starttext
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\SummaryTable
\stoptext
This works to some degree though I have the following questions about it:
1. Is there a way to access a document global variable from Lua? I
will use this to replace the REFREF text.
\startluacode
document.myvariables = { }
document.myvariables.whatever = "SOME TEXT"
\stopluacode
...
context(document.myvariables.whatever)
2. v.references.realpage isn't the actual page of the title. How can I
access the page number that would have appeared in the ToC? (I've
restarted the page numbering in my master doc, the above example works
fine)
as you're looking into the code ... search for helpers like
lists.prefixedpage
keep in mind that this is not yet an official api (although it will
probably stay this way)
3. Is there a way to store some metadata along with my title? I'd like
something similar to this:
\myheader[author=me, date=2011-12-14]{This is my header with meta-data}
and then be able to access it from Lua again.
it's called userdata (third argument to \startchapter etc) .. it travels
with the rest
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] xml attribute conditional
On 14-12-2011 19:33, Jon Crump wrote:
@xml:id==string.sub('#N020-18', 2) ->
(ll.at and ll.at['xml:id'])==string.sub('#N020-18', 2) ! Missing
number, treated as zero.
lua error with sub .. not sure what you want t o test here
indeed an error will prevent the multipass file to be saved (feature)
Hans
Thanks Hans, It's good to know the --result problem is not a bug, but
a feature. My problem then arises from my use of \note as opposed to
\footnote. In processing a tag in the xml, I need to test if the
current ref node has an ancestor with attribute:
@xml:id='apr_engl'. If it does, I need to create a \footnote whose
text comes from a element with attribute xml:id='N020-18', if
it does not, I need to create a \note whose reference number
corresponds to the one created by \footnote and thus points to the
same footnote contents:
<...>
referenced text
<...>
<...>
referenced text
<...>
footnote contents
To result in:
arabic text (1)
english text (1)
(1) footnote content
Currently I'm getting:
arabic text ??
english text (1)
(1) footnote content
Document order problem maybe?
probably a too complex solution ... this is an alternative:
\startbuffer[test]
a a
a a
b b
b b
ONE
TWO
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:somesetups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{text|div|ref|note}{xml:*}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{div[@type='a']}{xml:div:a}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{div[@type='b']}{xml:div:b}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{div[@type='c']}{xml:div:c}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:somesetups}
\startluacode
function document.preprocess()
local notes = { }
for e in lxml.collected("main","note") do
notes[e.at["xml:id"]] = 0
end
for e in lxml.collected("main","ref") do
local target = e.at["target"]
if target then
local id = string.gsub(target,"^#","")
local n = notes[id]
if n then
n = n + 1
e.at.footnote = n
notes[id] = n
e.at["xml:id"] = id
end
end
end
end
\stopluacode
\startxmlsetups xml:text
\ctxlua{document.preprocess()}
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:div:a
\par[div a]\par
\xmlflush{#1}
\par[div a]\par
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:div:b
\par[div b]\par
\xmlflush{#1}
\par[div b]\par
\stopxmlsetups
% \startxmlsetups xml:div:c
% \par[div c]\par
% \xmlflush{#1}
% \par[div c]\par
% \stopxmlsetups
%
% \startxmlsetups xml:note
% [note \footnote[\letterhash\xmlatt{#1}{xml:id}]{\xmlflush{#1}}]
% \stopxmlsetups
%
% \startxmlsetups xml:ref
% [ref : \note[\xmlatt{#1}{target}] ]
% \stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:div:c
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:note
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:ref
\doifsomething{\xmlatt{#1}{footnote}} {
\doifelse{\xmlatt{#1}{footnote}} {1} {
[footnote \footnote[\xmlatt{#1}{xml:id}]{\xmlflush{#1}}]
} {
[note \note[\xmlatt{#1}{xml:id}]{\xmlflush{#1}}]
}
}
\stopxmlsetups
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{}
\stoptext
(if it works ... wikify it)
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
On Wed, Dec 14 2011, Hagmann Jörg wrote: > Another possibility is to use org-mode in Emacs, export to Latex and from > there to ConTeXt. In my case, the last step is accomplished by a home-brewed > ruby script which covers the most common layout commands Have you already considered writing `org-context.el'? -- Peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] xml attribute conditional
>> @xml:id==string.sub('#N020-18', 2) ->
>> (ll.at and ll.at['xml:id'])==string.sub('#N020-18', 2) ! Missing
>> number, treated as zero.
>
>
> lua error with sub .. not sure what you want t o test here
>
> indeed an error will prevent the multipass file to be saved (feature)
>
>
> Hans
Thanks Hans, It's good to know the --result problem is not a bug, but
a feature. My problem then arises from my use of \note as opposed to
\footnote. In processing a tag in the xml, I need to test if the
current ref node has an ancestor with attribute:
@xml:id='apr_engl'. If it does, I need to create a \footnote whose
text comes from a element with attribute xml:id='N020-18', if
it does not, I need to create a \note whose reference number
corresponds to the one created by \footnote and thus points to the
same footnote contents:
<...>
referenced text
<...>
<...>
referenced text
<...>
...
footnote contents
To result in:
arabic text (1)
english text (1)
(1) footnote content
Currently I'm getting:
arabic text ??
english text (1)
(1) footnote content
Document order problem maybe?
thanks,
Jon
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Re: [NTG-context] MnSymbol (math) support in ConTeXt
Minion Math does appear to be ideal for this application. However, given current budget constraints, it is unlikely that my department can purchase Minion Math for this project (an open-access academic journal). We already own Minion Pro. Thus my interest in MnSymbol. If adding MnSymbol support were only a matter of tedious manual labor, I would be willing to give it a try, but without an understanding of font internals I don't know where to start. Perhaps someone can suggest resources for learning? Also, I see that there are MnSymbol files in http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/fonts/extra/mnsymbol/ but these don't appear to be included in my ConTeXt Standalone installation. Does anyone know about them? PPN On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Am 14.12.2011 um 18:38 schrieb Khaled Hosny: > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:16:29PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> the same author as MnSymbol: > > > > Is he? > > No, MnSymbol is from Achim Blumensath and Minion Math from Johannes Küster. > > Wolfgang > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Peter Park Nelson peter.park.nel...@gmail.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Context from Texlive
I downloaded texlive on Windows from the the July 2011 Tex Collection dvd. Latex works fine, but I get the following error message when I try to run Context: ConTeXt: problems after [0] pages Is there some sort of postcompilation I need to do to get Context running? Regards, Philip Brown ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MnSymbol (math) support in ConTeXt
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 18:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Am 14.12.2011 um 18:38 schrieb Khaled Hosny: > >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:16:29PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> the same author as MnSymbol: >> >> Is he? > > No, MnSymbol is from Achim Blumensath and Minion Math from Johannes Küster. Shame on me. I remember Johannes fiddling with Minion shapes and metafont to type1 conversions since I first met him about 7 year ago, as well as work on the motionmountain.net book being done in Minion, using the most complex combinations of LaTeX packages. But I was obviously wrong. I'm sorry for that. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MnSymbol (math) support in ConTeXt
Am 14.12.2011 um 18:38 schrieb Khaled Hosny: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:16:29PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> the same author as MnSymbol: > > Is he? No, MnSymbol is from Achim Blumensath and Minion Math from Johannes Küster. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MnSymbol (math) support in ConTeXt
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:16:29PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > the same author as MnSymbol: Is he? Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MnSymbol (math) support in ConTeXt
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 23:32, Peter Park Nelson wrote: > Hello, > > Also, any recommendations of other math fonts suitable for use with Minion > Pro would be welcome. Minion Math by the same author as MnSymbol: http://www.typoma.com/en/fonts.html Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \placelist summary alternative solution
I've ended up delving into the dark art that is Lua for this solution:
\define[0]\SummaryTable{%
\placetable[force, none]{}{%
\setupTABLE[frame=off]
\bTABLE
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH Reference\eTH\bTH Title\eTH\bTH Page\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\startluacode
for k, v in ipairs(structures.lists.collected) do
if v.metadata.kind == "section" and v.metadata.name == "section" then
context.bTR()
context.bTD()
context("REFREF")
context.eTD()
context.bTD()
context(v.titledata.title)
context.eTD()
context.bTD()
context(v.references.realpage)
context.eTD()
context.eTR()
end
end
\stopluacode%
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
}%
}%
\starttext
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\section{Test}
\input{knuth}
\SummaryTable
\stoptext
This works to some degree though I have the following questions about it:
1. Is there a way to access a document global variable from Lua? I
will use this to replace the REFREF text.
2. v.references.realpage isn't the actual page of the title. How can I
access the page number that would have appeared in the ToC? (I've
restarted the page numbering in my master doc, the above example works
fine)
3. Is there a way to store some metadata along with my title? I'd like
something similar to this:
\myheader[author=me, date=2011-12-14]{This is my header with meta-data}
and then be able to access it from Lua again.
Thanks for any help you can give with this.
Felix
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 14-12-2011 10:16, Romain Diss wrote: Hi Hans, Reading the new code (just to see what the clean-up looks like), I saw that a lot of "intermediate" macros are now named whith a new scheme : underscore separated words, and something like a namespace in the macro name. So the question (just for curiosity)... Are there any documents which describe this new "API" and the recommended way to code in context. Not yet. Among the reasons for the _ was that we wanted module users to use better namespace handling, so best also do it in the core code. another was that _ is no longer something special outside math in context. You need to keep in mind that much code originates was written in the time that (1) hash space was limited, (2) memory was lower, (3) processors were less powerful. So, the rewrite is a new compromise of such constraints. In any case we can now write more readable code which also happens to be faster while in the past there were constraints preventing this. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Chris Lott wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Hagmann Jörg wrote: >> >> Another possibility is to use org-mode in Emacs, export to Latex and >> from there to ConTeXt. In my case, the last step is accomplished by a >> home-brewed ruby script which covers the most common layout commands >> (and I'm mentioning that here in the hope that somebody who is more >> competent will eventually write something useful; or maybe pandoc does >> that, too?). >> >> This setup allows me to have everything belonging to a project in one >> textfile, e.g.: > > [***] > > That's quite interesting. Are you willing to share your Ruby script? Not publicly (too embarrassed), but I'll send it to you tomorrow Cheers, Jörg ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Hagmann Jörg wrote: > > Another possibility is to use org-mode in Emacs, export to Latex and >from there to ConTeXt. In my case, the last step is accomplished by a >home-brewed ruby script which covers the most common layout commands >(and I'm mentioning that here in the hope that somebody who is more >competent will eventually write something useful; or maybe pandoc does >that, too?). > > This setup allows me to have everything belonging to a project in one >textfile, e.g.: [***] That's quite interesting. Are you willing to share your Ruby script? I have used org-mode a fair amount... c -- Chris Lott ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Roger Mason wrote: > >> 4) How about X/HTML? this is my lowest level need but, again, it would be >> nice. > > One option would be to use markdown with pandoc. > [...] > I mostly write in > ConTeXt, but if I know I must share with users of word processors then > markdown + pandoc is a good option. This is, in fact, what I do now, with the occasional export to--and massage in--LaTeX. And even when trying ConTeXt lately, I often start with that route because I much prefer composing raw text in Markdown where I can. That said, the RTF export by Pandoc, while not perfect, is a useful step. I hear Mojca's point about the difficulty of re-integrating RTF or Word/etc revisions; I share that philosophy. But many of my colleagues don't. I try to use PDF as the interchange format but many don't like dealing with them. None of that is insurmountable, or any knock on ConTeXt, it is just a consideration to--well--consider. I still have many uses for something TeX based! Thanks for the info... c -- Chris Lott ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
On Dec 14, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 07:14, Chris Lott wrote: >> >> 3) PDF is my primary medium of exchange, though I would like to >> efficiently exchange docs with colleagues, which might mean getting >> them into something they can open with their beloved Microsoft Word... >> is there an RTF output for ConTeXt? this isn't super-high on my list, >> but it would be nice. > > ConTeXt only support XHTML to some extent. Now that xhtml backend is > done, creating support for rtf should be a lot easier to do than > before xhtml export was there, but unless some substantial funding is > found, it is unlikely to ever be implemented. Honestly I see no reason > why anyone would want to have RTF. Even if your colleagues get a > document in RTF and fix a few things, it won't at all be easy to > integrate that back. tex4ht most probably offers export to RTF, but > since author's death it is nearly impossible to request any > substantial feature. I bet that ConTeXt doesn't work with tex4ht any > more. > > Roger suggested markdown/pandoc. It is limited to some extent, but if > you are happy with its set of features, you could probably use it for > export into both RTF and XHMTL. Of course then you can forget about > lua sugars in ConTeXt ... Another possibility is to use org-mode in Emacs, export to Latex and from there to ConTeXt. In my case, the last step is accomplished by a home-brewed ruby script which covers the most common layout commands (and I'm mentioning that here in the hope that somebody who is more competent will eventually write something useful; or maybe pandoc does that, too?). This setup allows me to have everything belonging to a project in one textfile, e.g.: * Heading Notes, Ideas Lists: - item 1 - item 2 Tables: | one | two | three | Dates: ** TODO <2011-12-14 Wed 15:10> which I can collect in an agenda * Manuscript This section contains a manuscript which I can separately export as: - textfile - Latex file - HTML file - odt file (for LibreOffice, where it can be saved as a Microsoft doc) More sophisticated ConTeXt commands that are not provided for can be enclosed in #+BEGIN_LaTeX \Context command #+END_LaTeX or put behind #+LATEX: \Context command They will show up in the final ConTeXt version, but will not, of course, be translated into html, odt etc. ** Subsection :noexport: This section is part of "Manuscript", but will not be exported. There are many more features, see http://orgmode.org/ Hope this helps, Jörg ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 07:14, Chris Lott wrote: > > 3) PDF is my primary medium of exchange, though I would like to > efficiently exchange docs with colleagues, which might mean getting > them into something they can open with their beloved Microsoft Word... > is there an RTF output for ConTeXt? this isn't super-high on my list, > but it would be nice. ConTeXt only support XHTML to some extent. Now that xhtml backend is done, creating support for rtf should be a lot easier to do than before xhtml export was there, but unless some substantial funding is found, it is unlikely to ever be implemented. Honestly I see no reason why anyone would want to have RTF. Even if your colleagues get a document in RTF and fix a few things, it won't at all be easy to integrate that back. tex4ht most probably offers export to RTF, but since author's death it is nearly impossible to request any substantial feature. I bet that ConTeXt doesn't work with tex4ht any more. Roger suggested markdown/pandoc. It is limited to some extent, but if you are happy with its set of features, you could probably use it for export into both RTF and XHMTL. Of course then you can forget about lua sugars in ConTeXt ... > And *what* is > the deal with xetex? It seems to be the easiest way for accessing all > my fonts, but it also hasn't been updated for years and, since it is > tied to an old version of ConTeXt (as far as I can tell) it doesn't > seem like much of a winner. In ConTeXt MKIV with LuaTeX it is just as easy to access the fonts as it is in XeTeX. (It is only in plain LuaTeX that accessing fonts needs some fiddling.) You get even more flexibility. With XeTeX there are two major problems: 1.) ConTeXt never took advantages of all of its features. Ever since LuaTeX came to the scene, support for XeTeX in ConTeXt was pretty much frozen. XeTeX still works as well as pdfTeX, with the option to load OTF fonts, but there is no high-level support for some other low-level language-related features (interchar tokens, ...) or OpenType math (but that one is broken in XeTeX anyway). 2.) no maintenance of engine (no bugfixing) Still, XeTeX is able to handle some exotic scripts for which there is no support in ConTeXt yet, but that shouldn't be an issue for you. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Mailing list archive (archive.contextgarden.net) will be down or at least not updated
Hi all, Mojca has found a way to keep archive.contextgarden.net updated, so you can use it again. Her statement about the future of it is still true. > So: copy of mailing list archive (archive.contextgarden.net) won't be > updated for at least some time, but there is also a chance that it > will be completely replaced by a different solution. Not that it would > be technically impossible to continue updating it, but I think that > setting up mailing lists has a much higher priority at the moment than > old archives (which are much better at gmane.org anyway). Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
Chris, Chris Lott writes: > > 3) PDF is my primary medium of exchange, though I would like to > efficiently exchange docs with colleagues, which might mean getting > them into something they can open with their beloved Microsoft Word... > is there an RTF output for ConTeXt? this isn't super-high on my list, > but it would be nice. > 4) How about X/HTML? this is my lowest level need but, again, it would be > nice. One option would be to use markdown with pandoc. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ I mostly write in ConTeXt, but if I know I must share with users of word processors then markdown + pandoc is a good option. Cheers, Roger ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
Hi Hans, Reading the new code (just to see what the clean-up looks like), I saw that a lot of "intermediate" macros are now named whith a new scheme : underscore separated words, and something like a namespace in the macro name. So the question (just for curiosity)... Are there any documents which describe this new "API" and the recommended way to code in context. Thanks -- Romain Diss ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 14.12.2011, at 00:10, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 13-12-2011 21:07, Otared Kavian wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> >> Thanks for the new beta. >> It seems that with the new beta there is a bug with itemize: no numbers show >> up with \item. >> >> \starttext >> \startitemize[n] >> \item One >> \item Two >> \stopitemize >> \stoptext >> >> Best regards: OK > > I'll look into it ... \startitem ... \stopitem should be ok. Hi Hans, another problem with itemization. \starttext \startitemize[text] \item alpha \item beta \item gamma \startitem alpha \stopitem \startitem beta \stopitem \startitem gamma \stopitem \stopitemize \stoptext Regards Andreas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs?
Welcome to ConTeXt! I'm a relatively new user so my answers will be brief and partial, but I'm sure others will be able to expand on them. On Tue 13 Dec 2011, Chris Lott wrote: > 1) My work is primarily in the humanities and end-user technologies, > with small amounts of coding. So mathematics isn't an issue. I do a > fair amount of highly academic writing (aka: many sections, citations > [handling this in a sensible way is really important], footnotes) with > the occasional need for charts, graphs, and photos. In other words, > I'm not doing the kind of layout one might associate with InDesign or > the like. I also write many paper letters (personal), poetry, fiction, > essays, and the like. This looks to me like a good use case for ConTeXt. I've used it for a 380-page dissertation with the full complement of academic paraphernalia: footnotes, appendices, table of figures, citations etc. which all worked well for me. I believe that many others are using it for similar work. > 2) That said, I (obviously) have a keen interest in typography, and > that includes wanting to use some particular typefaces... I've paid > good money for many of them, so why not? I've found ConTeXt to be more pleasant than LaTeX for setting up the layout and typography according to my wishes. (When I used LaTeX I generally just went with the default layout and accepted that things would be a little ugly.) ConTeXt is also good about letting you use your own typefaces -- particularly if they're in OpenType format. > 3) PDF is my primary medium of exchange, though I would like to > efficiently exchange docs with colleagues, which might mean getting > them into something they can open with their beloved Microsoft Word... > is there an RTF output for ConTeXt? this isn't super-high on my list, > but it would be nice. > > 4) How about X/HTML? this is my lowest level need but, again, it > would be nice. I know that ConTeXt supports direct XHTML output but I'm not sure how mature it is -- I think someone else will be able to provide a more complete answer to this. > So, do you think ConTeXt makes more sense than LaTeX? And *what* is > the deal with xetex? It seems to be the easiest way for accessing all > my fonts, but it also hasn't been updated for years and, since it is > tied to an old version of ConTeXt (as far as I can tell) it doesn't > seem like much of a winner. In short, there are two versions of ConTeXt: Mk II (stable, and frozen for some time now) and Mk IV (actively developed, new betas more than once a month). Mk II can use pdftex or xetex as the engine; Mk IV uses luatex, which provides the ‘it just works’ font handling of xetex alongside a number of other features (chiefly the integration of the lua scripting language). Despite the worries that may be occasionaed by the word ‘beta’, Mk IV is pretty stable and definitely the recommended option these days. Hope this helps! Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
