Re: [NTG-context] bibliography: alignment of first hanging lines in publications list, hyphenation
But with
\setupbtxlist[alternative=left,margin=0cm,align={hanging,hz}]
there is no hanging indentation.
Isn’t it possible for the first “hanging” line of an hanging indentation
layout to start exactly on the very left, while the next lines are
exactly indented?
just the settings of descriptions
To be honest, i don’t know exactly what you mean by „descriptions“.
Greetings Jörg
On 28.01.2015 10:00, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 1/28/2015 8:42 AM, Jörg Weger wrote:
Attached are a MWE using plain APA and the corresponding BibTeX file.
(Don’t mind the mistakes regarding series/volumes, I got that working in
my personal setup that overrides plain APA.)
APA style defaults with hanging indents in the publications list.
The respectively hanging first lines of each entry in the publications
list are not properly aligned on the left. (The indented lines are). I
would like all of those first lines to start on the very left of the
textfield.
If I use \hyphenation to prevent e.g. names from being hyphenated those
words might be driven into the right margin.
Hanging punctuation doesn’t seem to work as well.
Is there anything that can be done about that? Or how can the
justification be switched to flush left/ragged right with hanging
indents on the left?
\setupbtxlist[alternative=left,margin=0cm,align={hanging,hz}]
just the settings of descriptions
Greetings Jörg
PS: And by the way, “\placebtxrendering[criterium=all]” is not working
anymore. I think I had it working before to place all entries from the
BibTeX file into the publications list regardless of their actual
appearance in the text as citations–which was a good way to test only
the publications list’s layout.
\placebtxrendering[method=dataset]
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Re: [NTG-context] Where is error in my code?
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Van Dung Tang nguyen...@gmail.com wrote:
I edit 1 file metafun with follow:
\startMPenvironment
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\stopMPenvironment
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
After run context and recieve 1 picture with a space very very long at
left my picture.
Please help me find my error!
If you use MkII (texexec document.tex), use the following:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\starttext
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{\color[white]{Cn}},origin);
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
There is no need to set the font inside the MP environment when using
\sometxt{} (those definitions are causing issues with whitespaces) and
you need to set the colour inside the text.
If you use MkIV (context document.text), you should use:
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\starttext
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{\color[white]{Cn}},origin);
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
but
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
works in MKIV as well.
I strongly suggest you to use MkIV.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography: alignment of first hanging lines in publications list, hyphenation
On 1/28/2015 8:42 AM, Jörg Weger wrote:
Attached are a MWE using plain APA and the corresponding BibTeX file.
(Don’t mind the mistakes regarding series/volumes, I got that working in
my personal setup that overrides plain APA.)
APA style defaults with hanging indents in the publications list.
The respectively hanging first lines of each entry in the publications
list are not properly aligned on the left. (The indented lines are). I
would like all of those first lines to start on the very left of the
textfield.
If I use \hyphenation to prevent e.g. names from being hyphenated those
words might be driven into the right margin.
Hanging punctuation doesn’t seem to work as well.
Is there anything that can be done about that? Or how can the
justification be switched to flush left/ragged right with hanging
indents on the left?
\setupbtxlist[alternative=left,margin=0cm,align={hanging,hz}]
just the settings of descriptions
Greetings Jörg
PS: And by the way, “\placebtxrendering[criterium=all]” is not working
anymore. I think I had it working before to place all entries from the
BibTeX file into the publications list regardless of their actual
appearance in the text as citations–which was a good way to test only
the publications list’s layout.
\placebtxrendering[method=dataset]
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[NTG-context] Where is error in my code?
I edit 1 file metafun with follow:
\startMPenvironment
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\stopMPenvironment
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
After run context and recieve 1 picture with a space very very long at
left my picture.
Please help me find my error!
Thanks
Ngu-Hanh.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] Where is error in my code?
I edit 1 file metafun follow:
\startMPenvironment
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\stopMPenvironment
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
Ngu-Hanh.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] Where is error in my code?
On 1/28/2015 5:49 AM, Van Dung Tang wrote:
I edit 1 file metafun with follow:
\startMPenvironment
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\stopMPenvironment
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
After run context and recieve 1 picture with a space very very long at
left my picture.
if you use mkiv you can do just:
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
if you use mkii, you have to load the fonts first
\startMPenvironment[global]
because loading can involve all kind of actions that introduce spaces
Hans
Please help me find my error!
Thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography again: “von” and “van”
Hi Alan, Hans,
As you say the treatmeant of the „particles“ are complicated.
They depend on „citizenship“, period, country of title, true nobility
or ennoblement, the region of a country one comes, and form of the particle
(abbreviation, captilization).
Practically all of this information is missing in the a normal bibliography.
Sure we can try to guess some from publication date, language, etc.
But, these are very in accurate, and will not give decent results.
Now, I am all for making as easy as possible for the user and have a system
do as much inference as possible.
We could simply add all kinds of switches and coding to help this process,
but in the end we end up with an over complicated format that grows into a
monster!
I as an old school type and database person would think it far better, to take
a more pratical approach.
Set up the inference rules for the names after 1920. Most of the ambiguity is
gone
for most of the western world to my knowledge! (I can not say much about the
rest,
we have not even talked about them).
We can add fields or a mechanisms where the author of a bibliography can set
display form, sort form etc. that are used.
Yes, this does put the burden on the author, but is the cleanest and most
flexible way to do it.
Or implement a mechanism where the Author of the bibliography can write a
SETUP/filter for the format of the author field and add a field to the format
called
authorfieldtype. this way.
I believe this would be the ConTeXt way.
regards
Keith.
Am 28.01.2015 um 04:10 schrieb Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr:
I have been arguing with Hans over the proper treatment of particles,
in general. The rules vary greatly - here we are looking at a
comparison between Dutch and German practice. In French, the use often
depends on history differing before and after the revolution. In
Spanish, we have other practice.
One solution is to make the rendering depend on the language= bibtex
field. But this does not work universally. With Hans, we have extended
the bibtex standard so that names can be explicitly separated, as in:
author = {particle, lastname, suffix, firstname}
This allows the author to use a free form for each component without
resorting to any bibtex trickery (like capitalization or not). How
these components are handled or rendered is not entirely worked out.
Indeed, the German practice differs from others. Thus my suggestion of
the use of the language field (or setting).
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography again: “von” and “van”
Am Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:11:03 +0100 schrieb Jörg Weger:
how would you “set up an entry properly” in a BibTeX file where you have
only one field for author/editor (serious question!)?
In biblatex/biber you could setup the entries like this:
@book{goethe,
author={von Goethe, Johann Wolfgang},
title={Faust},
year={1775}
}
@book{halen,
author={van Halen, Edward},
title={Title},
year={1775},
options = {useprefix=true}
}
Then you get Goethe and van Halen.
(It is not a perfect solution: assume a book from Goethe and van
Halen then you would have to use braces to save the van:
author={von Goethe, Johann Wolfgang and {van Halen}, Edward},
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Re: [NTG-context] Where is error in my code?
Hi,
From the looks of it you are using legacy code!
For one ConTeXt uses UTF you no need texansi encoding.
In Mkiv all you need is
\startext
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
If you want to set font use \definefontfamily and \setbodyfont commands.
regards
Keith.
Am 28.01.2015 um 05:45 schrieb Van Dung Tang nguyen...@gmail.com:
I edit 1 file metafun follow:
\startMPenvironment
\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\switchtobodyfont[times,10pt]
\stopMPenvironment
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor red;
label(\sometxt{Cn},origin) withcolor white;
\stopMPpage
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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography: alignment of first hanging lines in publications list, hyphenation
I looked in the wiki for “descriptions” and found this:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupdescriptions
I played around a lot with the parameters from there in \setupbtxlist,
but the problem remains. The only way to get hanging indentation is
\setupbtxlist[alternative=hanging] and no matter what else I change the
respectively first lines of every publications list entry are not
aligned to the very left of the full text width :(
Maybe it has something to do with the numbering?
If I use \setupbtxrendering[numbering=yes] the numbers are aligned
properly to the very left while the following beginnings of the entries
are not. Maybe the problem is that the numbers are only “hidden”, but
not really “deleted”? (Excuse my probably incorrect use of terminology.)
For comparison I tried the old mechanism again:
\setupbibtex[database={BibTeX_file},sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
\title{Literaturverzeichnis}
\placepublications[criterium=all]
\stoptext
Here the hanging first lines of each entry align with the title at the
very left.
I can live with the actual state of the new mkiv mechanism for now as my
lecturers’ eyes will be blinded by the remaining perfect ConTeXt layout :)
But in future it would be great to have a real hanging indentation in
the publications list according to the definition that in hanging
indentation in contrary to normal indentation all but the very first
line (which starts as a normal line at the very left) are indented.
Greetings Jörg
PS: By the way, Did I thank you for making this great software freely
available and for the great quick support on the mailing list?
On 28.01.2015 14:39, Jörg Weger wrote:
But with
\setupbtxlist[alternative=left,margin=0cm,align={hanging,hz}]
there is no hanging indentation.
Isn’t it possible for the first “hanging” line of an hanging indentation
layout to start exactly on the very left, while the next lines are
exactly indented?
just the settings of descriptions
To be honest, i don’t know exactly what you mean by „descriptions“.
Greetings Jörg
On 28.01.2015 10:00, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 1/28/2015 8:42 AM, Jörg Weger wrote:
Attached are a MWE using plain APA and the corresponding BibTeX file.
(Don’t mind the mistakes regarding series/volumes, I got that working in
my personal setup that overrides plain APA.)
APA style defaults with hanging indents in the publications list.
The respectively hanging first lines of each entry in the publications
list are not properly aligned on the left. (The indented lines are). I
would like all of those first lines to start on the very left of the
textfield.
If I use \hyphenation to prevent e.g. names from being hyphenated those
words might be driven into the right margin.
Hanging punctuation doesn’t seem to work as well.
Is there anything that can be done about that? Or how can the
justification be switched to flush left/ragged right with hanging
indents on the left?
\setupbtxlist[alternative=left,margin=0cm,align={hanging,hz}]
just the settings of descriptions
Greetings Jörg
PS: And by the way, “\placebtxrendering[criterium=all]” is not working
anymore. I think I had it working before to place all entries from the
BibTeX file into the publications list regardless of their actual
appearance in the text as citations–which was a good way to test only
the publications list’s layout.
\placebtxrendering[method=dataset]
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