[NTG-context] setuplayout vs Indesign!
Severe Covid-19 restrictions locally have left me out on a limb unable to be side-byside with people who can set me on track for a few things! Hence the bombardment of questions, for which I apologise. But almost there! The InDesign QC individual (who accepts my ConTeXt-produced pdfs) wants some tweaking to my layout, saying, in simple terms:/Odd/right pgs left margin should be 20mm and right margin 15mm; even/left pgs right margin 20mm and left margin 15mm/. I think the difficulty is that what InDesign calls margins might be termed a little differently in ConTeXt and I have no experience with InDesign. My initial setup was as follows for a paper size defined as [width=140mm,height=216mm] double-sided setup (in other words a standard 8.5"x5.5" book): \setuplayout [backspace=16mm, topspace=12mm, header=6mm, headerdistance=10mm, footerdistance=9mm, footer=8mm, width=fit, horoffset=12.7mm, location=middle, height=198mm, marking=on] There was no mention of 'margins' as such in that layout, and the result is close to what is wanted but not quite. Do I solve the problem by adding in: leftmargin=20mm, rightmargin=15mm, or is it some other item I need to adjust to ensure the 20mm/15mm dimensions requested? Julian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
I get it now. Thanks to you both.
Julian
On 26/8/20 2:20 pm, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
jbf schrieb am 26.08.2020 um 05:42:
MWE as follows:
\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [baskervaldadfstd]
[tf=file:BaskervaldADFStd.otf]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [ss] [librisadfstd]
[tf=file:LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\starttext
\tf ffi,
\it ffi,
\bf ffi,
\bi ffi.
\ss THIS IS A TITLE IN SANS SERIF
\tt Monospaced
\stoptext
Context then tells me that:
/mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 6 files: baskervaldadfstd-bold.otf,
baskervaldadfstd-bolditalic.otf, baskervaldadfstd-italic.otf,
baskervaldadfstd.otf, librisadfstd-bolditalic.otf,
texgyrepagella-math.otf/
So, in this instance, and as you explained would be the case, it is
loading the sans serif family (Libris) but I note that it is not
giving me what I asked for, which was /LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf/.
Instead it has given me /LibrisADFStd-BoldItalic.otf/
And I deliberately did not include any maths, or itemize or anything
that might involve those symbols, thinking it would not then load the
Pagella Maths file, but it did. So my two questions now are
1. Why is it loading Libris BoldItalic and not Regular as asked for?
You used \bi before you switched to the sans serif font and the style
is still active. To prevent this problem add around around style
changes, e.g. {\bi ...}.
2. If I am not using Maths so far, why is it loading the Pagella math
file?
ConTeXt checks the math font when you change the font with
\setupbodyfont and at this point the math font gets loaded.
You can prevent the loading of the math font with \textonly but you
should use this only when you're 100% sure you never use math in your
document. As Aditya already ConTeXt can use math for itemize symbols
(which isn't the default behavior anymore) and it's better to keep
math to avoid problems.
%% begin example
\textonly
\starttext
\unknown
\stoptext
%% end example
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
jbf schrieb am 26.08.2020 um 05:42:
MWE as follows:
\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [baskervaldadfstd]
[tf=file:BaskervaldADFStd.otf]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [ss] [librisadfstd]
[tf=file:LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\starttext
\tf ffi,
\it ffi,
\bf ffi,
\bi ffi.
\ss THIS IS A TITLE IN SANS SERIF
\tt Monospaced
\stoptext
Context then tells me that:
/mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 6 files: baskervaldadfstd-bold.otf,
baskervaldadfstd-bolditalic.otf, baskervaldadfstd-italic.otf,
baskervaldadfstd.otf, librisadfstd-bolditalic.otf, texgyrepagella-math.otf/
So, in this instance, and as you explained would be the case, it is
loading the sans serif family (Libris) but I note that it is not giving
me what I asked for, which was /LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf/. Instead it
has given me /LibrisADFStd-BoldItalic.otf/
And I deliberately did not include any maths, or itemize or anything
that might involve those symbols, thinking it would not then load the
Pagella Maths file, but it did. So my two questions now are
1. Why is it loading Libris BoldItalic and not Regular as asked for?
You used \bi before you switched to the sans serif font and the style is
still active. To prevent this problem add around around style changes,
e.g. {\bi ...}.
2. If I am not using Maths so far, why is it loading the Pagella math file?
ConTeXt checks the math font when you change the font with
\setupbodyfont and at this point the math font gets loaded.
You can prevent the loading of the math font with \textonly but you
should use this only when you're 100% sure you never use math in your
document. As Aditya already ConTeXt can use math for itemize symbols
(which isn't the default behavior anymore) and it's better to keep math
to avoid problems.
%% begin example
\textonly
\starttext
\unknown
\stoptext
%% end example
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
MWE as follows: \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [baskervaldadfstd] [tf=file:BaskervaldADFStd.otf] \definefontfamily [mainface] [ss] [librisadfstd] [tf=file:LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf] \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \tf ffi, \it ffi, \bf ffi, \bi ffi. \ss THIS IS A TITLE IN SANS SERIF \tt Monospaced \stoptext Context then tells me that: /mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 6 files: baskervaldadfstd-bold.otf, baskervaldadfstd-bolditalic.otf, baskervaldadfstd-italic.otf, baskervaldadfstd.otf, librisadfstd-bolditalic.otf, texgyrepagella-math.otf/ So, in this instance, and as you explained would be the case, it is loading the sans serif family (Libris) but I note that it is not giving me what I asked for, which was /LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf/. Instead it has given me /LibrisADFStd-BoldItalic.otf/ And I deliberately did not include any maths, or itemize or anything that might involve those symbols, thinking it would not then load the Pagella Maths file, but it did. So my two questions now are 1. Why is it loading Libris BoldItalic and not Regular as asked for? 2. If I am not using Maths so far, why is it loading the Pagella math file? Julian On 26/8/20 1:18 pm, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, jbf wrote: I intend to use it! So, yes, I had not used it at this point, and your explanation now makes sense. In the test example I have, I have now placed a line: \ss My text, and I see that it now loads the sans serif font. But can you explain why it loads the math font, given that I have not, as yet, used that anywhere (and may not - it is there for insurance in case such a glyph is needed)? A complete minimal working example will help ... (some symbols, like the bullet in itemize is taken from the math font). Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, jbf wrote: > I intend to use it! So, yes, I had not used it at this point, and your > explanation now makes sense. > > In the test example I have, I have now placed a line: \ss My text, and I see > that it now loads the sans serif font. But can you explain why it loads the > math font, given that I have not, as yet, used that anywhere (and may not - it > is there for insurance in case such a glyph is needed)? A complete minimal working example will help ... (some symbols, like the bullet in itemize is taken from the math font). Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
I intend to use it! So, yes, I had not used it at this point, and your explanation now makes sense. In the test example I have, I have now placed a line: \ss My text, and I see that it now loads the sans serif font. But can you explain why it loads the math font, given that I have not, as yet, used that anywhere (and may not - it is there for insurance in case such a glyph is needed)? Julian On 26/8/20 11:58 am, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, jbf wrote: Can someone tell me why, when I define my typefaces as follows below, I get: mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: baskervaldadfstd.otf, texgyrepagella-math.otf when in fact my font definitions are: \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [baskervaldadfstd] [tf=file:BaskervaldADFStd.otf] \definefontfamily [mainface] [ss] [librisadfstd] [tf=file:LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf] \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] - ConTeXt loads the [rm] and the [mm] but not the [ss]. Be assured that the ss typeface is available. So if, for example, I comment out the first line ([rm]) and change the Libris to rm instead, I am told: mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: librisadfstd-regular.otf, texgyrepagella-math.otf In other words, only two, not three definitions are working at any one time. Or is it not accepting [ss] for some reason regardless? I have tried any number of existing sans serif fonts and none of them will load. I know the family names are correct, so that is not the problem. What could I be doing wrong? Are you actually using sans serif text in your document? If not, then context has no reason to embed a subset of it in the PDF. It is the same reason by the teletype [tt] font has not been loaded. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, jbf wrote: > Can someone tell me why, when I define my typefaces as follows below, I get: > > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: baskervaldadfstd.otf, > texgyrepagella-math.otf > > when in fact my font definitions are: > > \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [baskervaldadfstd] > [tf=file:BaskervaldADFStd.otf] > \definefontfamily [mainface] [ss] [librisadfstd] > [tf=file:LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf] > \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math] > > \setupbodyfont[mainface] > > - > > ConTeXt loads the [rm] and the [mm] but not the [ss]. Be assured that > the ss typeface is available. So if, for example, I comment out the > first line ([rm]) and change the Libris to rm instead, I am told: > > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: librisadfstd-regular.otf, > texgyrepagella-math.otf > > In other words, only two, not three definitions are working at any one > time. Or is it not accepting [ss] for some reason regardless? I have > tried any number of existing sans serif fonts and none of them will > load. I know the family names are correct, so that is not the problem. > What could I be doing wrong? Are you actually using sans serif text in your document? If not, then context has no reason to embed a subset of it in the PDF. It is the same reason by the teletype [tt] font has not been loaded. Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] odd behaviour with \definefontfamily
Can someone tell me why, when I define my typefaces as follows below, I get: mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: baskervaldadfstd.otf, texgyrepagella-math.otf when in fact my font definitions are: \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [baskervaldadfstd] [tf=file:BaskervaldADFStd.otf] \definefontfamily [mainface] [ss] [librisadfstd] [tf=file:LibrisADFStd-Regular.otf] \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] - ConTeXt loads the [rm] and the [mm] but not the [ss]. Be assured that the ss typeface is available. So if, for example, I comment out the first line ([rm]) and change the Libris to rm instead, I am told: mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: librisadfstd-regular.otf, texgyrepagella-math.otf In other words, only two, not three definitions are working at any one time. Or is it not accepting [ss] for some reason regardless? I have tried any number of existing sans serif fonts and none of them will load. I know the family names are correct, so that is not the problem. What could I be doing wrong? Julian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] set_lua freezes control sequences
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 04:48:27PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > > I noticed that recent LuaMetaTeX versions treats control sequences > > defined using token.set_lua with `value` or `condition` as frozen and > > does not allow redefining them. Given that these are not macros, we also > > can't "unfreeze" them using \unletfrozen. > > > > 1. Would it be possible to add a variant of Lua value and condition > > control sequences that are not frozen? > > > > 2. Also is there some way to disable the \frozen restrictions > > altogether? Maybe \suppressfrozenerror? > > > > 3. I also noticed that `token.set_lua` is not affected by control > > sequences being frozen. Therefore it allows redefining frozen > > control sequences which seems inconsistent. > It's all on purpose. Btw, these mechanisms are very experimental (and > undocumented and might to evolve). I know, but they are fun to play with. Especially the `value` kind was one of the most important things I always missed in LuaTeX. Marcel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new version
Hi, The current version of lmtx has some updated tracing of memory usage. This is irrelevant for most users but some of you generat elarge an complex files so ... (I'm talking about mf here). There is a command line option --usage that will make a run report some more statistics. The info shown might look somewhat cryptic but we basically have (per category) - max: the maximum allowed memory (for many categories we can make that larger, but I need proof that it's needed) - min: this is how we start out - stp: when more memory is needed, this is the step that we use to increase - set: this is the value that context configures by default, often larger than min, and less than max - mem: the memory usage (often in units) - all: the real usage (multiplied by the unit) - ini, ptr and top: are the startup values (when something is also stored in the format), the current usage and the max usage (all within the mentioned min-max range). The rest speaks for itself. Font usage reflects only the tex end, of course there is plenty usage at the lua end. The language info I might extend that with pattern and exception usage. Actually, tex memory usage is not that large in luametatex. When mem gets increased, there is a message. We can use that to eventually determine the best values. Actually we might even lower some initial values (not that it matters much, lua uses more). Of course there is also --timing but that one has been there from the start, although I did update it to reflect the more detailed tracing. The graphics are the same as always: red lines are usage, the blue line is the runtime. In general, memory management has been improved: all categories are now more dynamic, there is more checking for overflows, there is some recovery slack in allocation, etc. I will play a bit more some of it, for instance we might end up with more detailed configuration options, in addition the the already new ones. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] set_lua freezes control sequences
On 8/25/2020 3:59 PM, Marcel Fabian Krüger wrote: Hi, I noticed that recent LuaMetaTeX versions treats control sequences defined using token.set_lua with `value` or `condition` as frozen and does not allow redefining them. Given that these are not macros, we also can't "unfreeze" them using \unletfrozen. 1. Would it be possible to add a variant of Lua value and condition control sequences that are not frozen? 2. Also is there some way to disable the \frozen restrictions altogether? Maybe \suppressfrozenerror? 3. I also noticed that `token.set_lua` is not affected by control sequences being frozen. Therefore it allows redefining frozen control sequences which seems inconsistent. It's all on purpose. Btw, these mechanisms are very experimental (and undocumented and might to evolve). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] set_lua freezes control sequences
Hi, I noticed that recent LuaMetaTeX versions treats control sequences defined using token.set_lua with `value` or `condition` as frozen and does not allow redefining them. Given that these are not macros, we also can't "unfreeze" them using \unletfrozen. 1. Would it be possible to add a variant of Lua value and condition control sequences that are not frozen? 2. Also is there some way to disable the \frozen restrictions altogether? Maybe \suppressfrozenerror? 3. I also noticed that `token.set_lua` is not affected by control sequences being frozen. Therefore it allows redefining frozen control sequences which seems inconsistent. Best regards, Marcel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Overriding the number on a float
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > > On 24 Aug 2020, at 19:59, Wolfgang Schuster > > wrote: > >> \setcounter[figure][5] % next figure is no.6 > > For this subfigure stuff, perhaps this is useful? > > [...] > > I could not find a safe way to increment the subfigure number automatically, > unfortunately. Another option is to define: \startplacesubfigure ... \stopplacesubfigure which could use the current value of figure counter as prefix and increment the subfigure counter. Something similar is there for subformulas in the math mode, but I'll have to go back and check the implementation details. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Overriding the number on a float
Thanks all for useful tips. I ended up doing something similar as a short
term fix for my float number override issue, basically setting up a new
float type to use for the deviant ones and then resetting the numbering of
the existing ones. It would be great if there was a facility to just drop
in an override on an individual float using the equivalent of
ownnumber={27.1b}, but I appreciate this may be much more complex under the
hood than it seems to a mere mortal. Certainly my brief perusal of the
sources left me baffled, as usual!
Thanks again.
Duncan
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 22:51, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
> > On 24 Aug 2020, at 19:59, Wolfgang Schuster <
> wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> \setcounter[figure][5] % next figure is no.6
>
> For this subfigure stuff, perhaps this is useful?
>
> % setup definitions
> \definecounter[subfigure][way=bytext,prefix=no]
> \setupcounter[subfigure][state=start,numberconversion=a]
> \setcounter[subfigure][1]
>
> \def\setsubfigures
> {\setcounter[subfigure][1]
>\incrementcounter[figure]
>
>
> \setupcaption[figure][state=stop,numberstopper={\convertedcounter[subfigure]}]}
>
> \def\unsetsubfigures
> {\setupcaption[figure][state=start,numberstopper=]}
>
> %usage
> \setsubfigures
>
> \startplacefigure[title=Test figure]
> \externalfigure[dummy]
> \stopplacefigure
>
> \incrementnumber[subfigure]
>
> \startplacefigure[title=Test another figure]
> \externalfigure[dummy]
> \stopplacefigure
>
> \unsetsubfigures
>
>
> I could not find a safe way to increment the subfigure number
> automatically, unfortunately.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
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