Re: [NTG-context] tilde character
Am 14.03.22 um 18:45 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character from a font? ~ is a fixed space \texttilde gives a tilde accent \utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~) \textasciitilde Thank you! Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tilde character
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:36:08 +0100 Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > How do I get the default tilde character from a font? \starttext \startasciimode a~b \stopasciimode a\textasciitilde b \stoptext Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tilde character
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context schrieb am 14.03.2022 um 18:36: Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character from a font? ~ is a fixed space \texttilde gives a tilde accent \utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~) \lettertilde Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tilde character
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character > from a font? > > ~ is a fixed space > \texttilde gives a tilde accent > \utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~) \textasciitilde Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] tilde character
Hi, I’ve a stupid question: How do I get the default tilde character from a font? ~ is a fixed space \texttilde gives a tilde accent \utfchar{0x007E} yields a space (probably the same as ~) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 3/14/2022 3:05 PM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: On 2022-03-14 04:01, Hans Hagen wrote: On 3/13/2022 7:58 PM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: ... 2. How does the goodies mechanism work when the expected version differs from the found version? we check the version number in the font file (a bit of fuzzyness due to the way version numbers ar ento standardized); comparing internals would be an option but also a waste of time i think Understood, but what happens after the check? Is the goodies file used even if there is a mismatch, or is it ignored? not ignored ... more a warnign that you're on your own risk - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 2022-03-14 04:01, Hans Hagen wrote: On 3/13/2022 7:58 PM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: ... 2. How does the goodies mechanism work when the expected version differs from the found version? we check the version number in the font file (a bit of fuzzyness due to the way version numbers ar ento standardized); comparing internals would be an option but also a waste of time i think Understood, but what happens after the check? Is the goodies file used even if there is a mismatch, or is it ignored? -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
Hi! On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 9:01 AM Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > > On 3/13/2022 7:58 PM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: > > > With regard to math fonts, I notice that the goodies file for Libertinus > > expects version 6.8 of the font, but the current version (since February > > 2021) is 7.040, and much work appears to have gone into the math font. > > the main issue with math font is in 'unfortunate' glyph dimensions and > we doubt that these will change over time (as fonts are supposed to be > stable); adding shapes is another matter > > > Two questions, then: > > > > 1. Is Libertinus Math considered a "useful" math font? > > Mikael knows .. I never used libertinus (and am an unlike candidate; i > mostly use cambria, pagella, dejavu, lucida) I think it could be useful, yes (I like the look of the libertinus font, in particular in combination with the biolinum font; it is probably worth trying to get the math font to work as well as possible). I think there were some problems with accents and such, but not too big. I think you could try to use it and see what you think. > > > 2. How does the goodies mechanism work when the expected version > > differs from the found version? > > we check the version number in the font file (a bit of fuzzyness due to > the way version numbers ar ento standardized); comparing internals would > be an option but also a waste of time i think > > > (I understand that keeping up with evolving fonts is somewhere between > > difficult and impossible.) > > which is why we want to freeze on versions ... an update to another > version then becomes explicit; of course we can also consider having > multiple instances of a font but then we also need to set up a repository > > > I also note that the typescript for libertinus is quite old and does not > > reflect the semibold variants that have been available for some time. I > > prefer them to the bold variants, and my own typescript for libertinus > > does incorporate them. I am happy to share it if anyone wants it. > We cannot suddenly change the 'default', but we can have additional > choices in the file for semi versions (some more fonts have that). You > can send your typesctipt file to Mikael and me and we can have a look. > > (Not sure if I should update libertinus now. Sometimes fonts change too > much, like for instance ebgaramond did, and one can get rather different > output.) > > Hans I put it on my todo-list to download the new version and to run some test files. I could also mention here that in the upload Hans did some days ago, most changes are "behind the scenes", so the user should not really write their code differently. One exception: In integrals, texers have usually a \, in front of the differential. Now there is a differential class, and the macro \dd will give a differential d, with (hopefully) correct spacing. Thus, write for example \int_0^1 f(x)\dd x. If you find any strange distances between atoms, please mail me examples. With the introduction of new classes, there are many new pairs, and perhaps not all of them are setup "correct". /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 3/13/2022 7:58 PM, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote: With regard to math fonts, I notice that the goodies file for Libertinus expects version 6.8 of the font, but the current version (since February 2021) is 7.040, and much work appears to have gone into the math font. the main issue with math font is in 'unfortunate' glyph dimensions and we doubt that these will change over time (as fonts are supposed to be stable); adding shapes is another matter Two questions, then: 1. Is Libertinus Math considered a "useful" math font? Mikael knows .. I never used libertinus (and am an unlike candidate; i mostly use cambria, pagella, dejavu, lucida) 2. How does the goodies mechanism work when the expected version differs from the found version? we check the version number in the font file (a bit of fuzzyness due to the way version numbers ar ento standardized); comparing internals would be an option but also a waste of time i think (I understand that keeping up with evolving fonts is somewhere between difficult and impossible.) which is why we want to freeze on versions ... an update to another version then becomes explicit; of course we can also consider having multiple instances of a font but then we also need to set up a repository I also note that the typescript for libertinus is quite old and does not reflect the semibold variants that have been available for some time. I prefer them to the bold variants, and my own typescript for libertinus does incorporate them. I am happy to share it if anyone wants it. We cannot suddenly change the 'default', but we can have additional choices in the file for semi versions (some more fonts have that). You can send your typesctipt file to Mikael and me and we can have a look. (Not sure if I should update libertinus now. Sometimes fonts change too much, like for instance ebgaramond did, and one can get rather different output.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___