Re: [NTG-context] (no subject)
I am rarely using mailing lists, so i hope that i do it right :). Thanks for the help, Taco. I added an entry to the Wiki, but i'm not sure if it is sufficient this way and if it needs approval/review or something. Malte ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] (no subject)
Hi,
I'm new to context and found this
```
\installpagearrangement 1*4*reversed
{\dosetuparrangement{2}{2}{4}{3}{3}% X,Y,Total,hcutmarks,vcutmarks
\pusharrangedpageFOURSINGLESIDEDFOLDEDREVERSED\poparrangedpagesTWO\relax}
\def\pusharrangedpageFOURSINGLESIDEDFOLDEDREVERSED#1%
{\advancearrangedpageN
\reportarrangedpage\arrangedpageN
\ifcase\arrangedpageN
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageA % 1 rot,hskip,vskip
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}111\arrangedpageA % 2
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}101\arrangedpageA % 3
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageA % 4
\poparrangedpages
\fi}
\setuppapersize [A10][A8]
\setuparranging [1*4*reversed]
\setuplayout[margin=0pt, width=fit]
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{8}{\vbox to \textheight{\vfill\midaligned{\tfd ABC}\vfill}\page}
\stoptext
```
imposition scheme in the garden wiki and tried it out. Now i noticed
that this sets the imposition scheme for *every* page, but i would like
to have a different scheme on the second page (1*4), how do i set that
(if this is even possible)?
The result should look like
```
P4 P1
R3 R2
P5 P6
P7 P8
```
where 5-8 should be on the back of 1-4 (double sided).
Thanks in advacne for any help :)
Malte
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[NTG-context] Bibliography: spacing in cite, lettering of repeated years
I am just starting with the bibliography module and ran the following test:
\cite[authoryear,left=(yes: ,right=; Rk)][frank98foundations] here,
\cite[author][frank98foundations], then \cite[year][frank98foundations], then
\cite{otrosina88isozyme,frank91ecological,frank98foundations,abraham82dynamics:}
said and then { \cite[otrosina88isozyme]} commented and then
\cite{abraham82dynamics:}
With my setup, that gave:
(yes: Frank 1998; Rk) here, Frank, then 1998, then (Otrosina et al. 1988; Frank
1991c,1998; Abraham and Shaw 1982) said and then (Otrosina et al. 1988)
commented and then (Abraham and Shaw 1982)
I give more on setup below.
My three issues:
1. The space after the period in "et al." stretches, which does not look right.
I tried modifying the "otherstext" field in various ways, but could not get a
working solution. Any advice?
2. With the "compress" option on for authoryears, the dates 1991c,1998 are
correctly combined in the second set, but I would like a space as "1991c, 1998"
instead of "1991c,1998".
3. The citations listed here are all of the ones in the current document. The
date 1991c should be 1991, without a letter, because there is neither 1991a nor
1991b. Is there a way to get consistent letter of repeated years, such that no
letter is present without repeat, and the letters are given in the order in
which they appear in the text?
---
I am new to ConTeXt, and started by copying someone else' environment. Here
are the relevant parts:
\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database={main}]
\setuppublications
[alternative=apa,
sorttype=bbl,
refcommand=authoryears,
criterium=text,
numbering=no]
\setupcite
[year]
[pubsep={, },
lastpubsep={ and },
compress=yes,
inbetween={},
left={},
right={}]
\setupcite
[author]
[pubsep={, },
lastpubsep={ and },
compress=yes,
inbetween={},
left={},
right={}]
\setupcite
[authoryears]
[pubsep={; },
% otherstext={ et al. }, % cannot get that to work
% \c!otherstext={ et al.},
lastpubsep={; },
compress=yes,
inbetween={ },
left={(},
right={)}]
Steve
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Re: [NTG-context] debian tikz module
"Johan Sandblom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears to be fixed in 1.10, no? Hm, is it fixed? From the bug log and attached patch, it rather seemed to be an error in the Debian packaging. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] debian tikz module
Ohura-san, any plans to fix this bug? It was again noticed on the ConTeXt mailing list; in Debian, tikz.tex is found earlier than t-tikz.tex, and therefore there's no tikz support for ConTeXt. Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster wrote: > >> (517)[21:48:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kpsewhich --progname=context t-tikz.tex >> (518)[21:48:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls >> /usr/share/texmf/context/pgf/frontendlayer/t-tikz.tex >> /usr/share/texmf/context/pgf/frontendlayer/t-tikz.tex > ^ shouldn't there be a 'tex' path component? > > Then it would be in the serch path for ConTeXt. (or rather, it would be before anything in tex/context, tex/plain and tex/generic, and no longer at random order with respect to other things in the whole tree; TEXMF//) is also included. I didn't notice the missing component. That is bug #394613 in pgf. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] debian tikz module
Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On my system (Windows+mswincontext) I get > > system : module tikz loaded > (e:/isoimage/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-project/tex/context/pgf/frontendlayer > t-tikz.tex > > followed by loading of a lot of files under tex/context/pgf... > > What does > kpsewhich t-tikz.tex > give on your system. If it is not found, it may mean that either pgf > is not uptodate or not installed correctly. Hm, this is strange. On my system (Debian with TeXLive 2005, without the separate context package, but that shouldn't matter), it isn't found either: (517)[21:48:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kpsewhich --progname=context t-tikz.tex (518)[21:48:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /usr/share/texmf/context/pgf/frontendlayer/t-tikz.tex /usr/share/texmf/context/pgf/frontendlayer/t-tikz.tex (519)[21:48:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep t-tikz.tex /usr/share/texmf/ls-R t-tikz.tex (520)[21:48:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ but it should. As shown above, it's in the ls-R database, and it's in the search patch for context: $ kpsewhich --progname=context tikz.tex /usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.tex (521)[21:49:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kpsewhich --progname=context --show-path=tex | sed -e 's/:/\n/g' | grep /usr/share/texmf !!/usr/share/texmf/tex/context// !!/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/context// !!/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/context// !!/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain// So t-tikz.tex is definetely earlier than tikz.tex. Next thing would be to run kpsewhich with --debug, but I don't have time for this ATM. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1
Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all! > > New upstream, new debian package 2006.12.21-0.1 > > deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ > > Missing before I can upload (will upload) to Debian: > - copyright file needs to be extended. I got the OK from Taco that > everything but the cows fonts are GPLv2 or PD, those fonts I couldn't > find for now, so it seems that it is ok. I have to write something up. Moreover, it's not acceptable for a Debian upload (and IMHO hardly acceptable for providing an archive for download) to mix in one archive GPL'ed and PD files, without clearly listing which is which. After all, PD means "you can do anything", while the GPL is Copyleft, or in other words one of the most restrictive Open Source licenses. > - Description: As Frank noted, something less commercial and more > descriptive. And, in particular, something which explains in 5 lines why one would want to use ConTeXt instead of LaTeX. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian
Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everything in (the current versions of) cont-ext, cont-fmt and cont-img > is either GPLv2 or Public Domain. Well, the interesting question is "what is what?" It's quite important to not handle a GPL'ed file as if it was Public Domain. >> Is there any chance to get a statement of them beign DFSG compatible? >> Otherwise I have to exclude some of it and put it into something like >> context-nonfree. >> >> BTW, as you are also one of the luatex people, same problem exists for >> luatex which I am also packaging. > > Please, please don't do that. The snapshots are bug-ridden and totally > experimental. In this stage, we much prefer having only testers that > know how to deal with unstable software. I have no opinion about this particular case, but if we only upload it to Debian experimental, we can expect its users to be able to deal with unstable and totally broken software. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry
Gerhard Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 10:35:30AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> or, if you have a bit experience, you can straight away add >> deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ >> to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and install context. After this, >> please tell us our experiences/failures/suggestions. >> > > Frank, > > is this truely a valid line for sources.list? Yes, I've got plenty of those. > My apt shows errors with this line. which errors? Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry
Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ horror story snipped ] > anyhow, by now, no alias file should be present in any tex root any > more; it was a bad idea anyway I always thought that the purpose of the aliases file was that a non-existent (no, nay, never, nowhere ever) filename was aliased to an existent one, like in the documentation part: % documentation TETEXDOC.pdf teTeX.pdf etex-man.pdf etex.pdf pdftex-a.pdf pdftex.pdf testeuro.dvi eurosym.dvi If the rest of the aliases covers files that might exist as real files on some systems - I agree, what a bad idea. > pool files normally are in web2c paths; future versions of pdftex and > mpost have the pool file embedded so this problem will (hopefully) disappear Ah, I didn't know that. pdftex 1.40 doesn't have this already, has it? > hm, interesting; lean and mean texmf.cnf files can speed up things a lot > > when playing with luatex (where i intend to replace kpse completely with > a lua based variant) it is possible to have format specific file > databases; this runs much faster; this whole ls-r stuff is pretty outdated Oh, yes, it is. Current kpse also has the "side effect" that on most systems, users are able to fill up the /var/ partition by generating pixel fonts... Karl (or was it Olaf?) once said there are plans for a complete replacement of libkpathsea, named kpse - would that be obsolete with luatex? Could there be a C wrapper about lua's kpse? > sure, but (i'm not sure if this is still true) running tex live > alongside a tetex was always kind of problematic due to path settings > and this autoparent mess then deriving locations of texmf.cnf from it This is probably still a problem in standard-setup systems. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt installtion and Debian
Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * TEXFONTMAPS is also wrong: it makes pdftex (and dvipdfmx as well,
>>I guess) find the mapfiles for dvips before their own mapfiles
>>(those are shipped with ConTeXt).
>>
>>I have:
>>
>>TEXFONTMAPS.dvipdfm = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvipdfm,dvips,}//
>>TEXFONTMAPS.dvipdfmx = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvipdfm,dvips,}//
>>TEXFONTMAPS.pdftex = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}//
>>TEXFONTMAPS.pdfetex = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}//
>>TEXFONTMAPS.xetex= .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{xetex,pdftex,dvips,}//
>>TEXFONTMAPS.dvips= .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvips,pdftex,}//
>>TEXFONTMAPS =.;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{$progname,pdftex,dvips,}//;\
>>$TEXMF/{$progname,pdftex,dvips}/{config,}//
>>
>>this works fine (but it is perhaps a bit too verbose).
>
> Debian currently has:
> TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/{fonts/,}map//;$TEXMF/dvips//
>
> What about this? I am not completely convinced about it since with
> updmap we generate input file for all the different programs.
The second part, $TEXMF/dvips//, is a Debian-specific
backwards-compatibility hack to allow fonts to be found that install
their map files according to the old (teTeX 2.0) TDS. We should drop it
as soon as etch is out, and we should probably have done that even
earlier. The first I don't quite understand, we actually have:
% TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/{fonts/map,}/{$progname,pdftex,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/{fonts/,}map//;$TEXMF/dvips//
This looks like we dropped the program-specific paths (and with that
their order), and like it wouldn't have been necessary to add a hack
(but I know that at the time of the teTex-3.0-beta-release when I
introduced it it *was* necessary).
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dual parts (for reasons that don't matter here), and we might be able to provide a minimal texmf.cnf like yours if texlive-latex is not installed, but texlive-context is. > sure, but the fact that the 'real' names change every now and then > makes it hard for users to cary a history around without renaming; > also, one of the ideas behind tds and web2c was that platforms could > share trees, which is what i like: i have one set of trees for running > all platforms (so, texmf-local it is here) That's not so much of a problem in Debian, because the package managment system will respect your changes and always keep texmf-local if you like. But generally I agree that this is suboptimal. >> AFAIK only the search path for texmf.cnf is hard-coded, and that can't >> be avoided. On the other hand, no one ever approached me and requested >> a relocation: What would you want, and in which cases? >> > i think that there are a few more paths in there (you sometimes see > them in var expansions, but normally they don't hurt) ; life would be > easier if texmfcnf was always taken from an env var; actually, i set > all important env vars anyway, if only because it isolates tex > distrubutions (after all we're talking about a only a few vars than > determins all); I trust you to do it right, but we've had a couple of bogus bugreports from people who set env vars wrongly, or completely forgot they ever had... I'll see that I or Norbert Preining look into this and come back with a more constructive proposal. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry
Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Küster wrote:
>>
>> Can you point me to the place where it is documented which calls are
>> needed to be called
>
> I was going to say: on the wiki, but that clearly wouldn't work
> this time.
>
> To actually update ConTeXt, assuming you already have a relatively
> modern context installed, you say
>
># ctxtools --update
>
> and that fetches the zip file(s) from the pragma site (or a mirror),
> unpacks them, and updates the various perl and ruby scripts that come
> with ConTeXt.
When this is done on a system where ConTeXt first came with a TeXlive or
teTeX installation, will this replace existing files, or will it put the
updated new files in TEMXFLOCAL or TEXMFHOME, respectively? Ah, I think
you have answered this already below.
> You have to be root for this when you want to update the global install,
> otherwise you have a few extra caveats, see below.
>
> After a succesful update, you have to run
>
> # texexec --make --all [--xetex | --aleph | --pdftex]
>
> Where are the desired formats to run. The accepted list
> at the moment is: the eight ConTeXt formats, in both long
> ("cont-en" etc.) and short from ("en","nl","de","it","fr","cz",
> "ro","uk"), and "mptopdf", and the metapost mems "mpost" and "metafun".
So I guess this is the call that would also be needed if the update
itself goes via a package management, i.e. if one installs a new version
of the Debian ConTeXt package.
> This works fine if you are root, and had a previous context update
> done already. If you have not already and/or are not root, then you
> have two big problems:
>
> * TEXFORMATS as shipped with teTeX/TL is uncomplete: there is that
>missing format-specific subdirectory.
So I guess TeXlive (and the existing teTeX packages within
Linux/BSD/... distributions) should do that, so that modern ConTeXt just
works.
If you are not root, then
>you have to create a local texmf.cnf to overrule the default
>texmf.cnf. I have:
>
>TEXFORMATS= .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$engine,}
>
>because context's texexec pushes the $engine setting to the
>environment, this works fine (Originally this was supposed to
>be handled by kpathsea, but like I said, that never got off
>the ground)
It might be possible by setting, in texmf.cnf,
TEXFORMATS.xetex = .;$TEXMF/web2c{xetex,}
TEXFORMATS.pdftex = .;$TEXMF/web2c{pdftex,}
and so on. I'm not sure, however; this of course depends on which
progname ConTeXt uses (so it might need to be TEXFORMATS.cont-xetex or
whatever).
>Not using texexec is not a big deal in itself, as long as you
>restrict yourself to using pdfetex and know how to edit the
>fmtutil config file, I guess. That's why you sometimes see that
>approach promoted on the wiki.
I think, with the TEXFORMATS.$engine setup working, it should be
possible to use both, fmtutil and texexec, and get the same formats -
texexec might still be better in doing other update tasks.
> * TEXFONTMAPS is also wrong: it makes pdftex (and dvipdfmx as well,
>I guess) find the mapfiles for dvips before their own mapfiles
>(those are shipped with ConTeXt).
This also sounds like a bug in TeXlive/teTeX.
> * Lastly, ctxtools --update does a kpsewhich on context.tex to find
>where to install the updated files. That only works if you have
>write permission for that directory (i.e. you are root), or if you
>have done a private install already.
So this means -update will always try to overwrite an existing
installation, and not automatically search for a writable directory
that's earlier in the TEXMF path? Even not as a fallback? This sounds
as if this tool could be improved.
> I think that is all, but I may have missed something, so if you read
> this message and know a thing or two about updating, please double
> check my text. Thanks in advance.
I think it does help a lot, and we can work from there, testing with the
Debian ConTeXt package.
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Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
>> A system-wide installation, if done cleanly, would be much easier
>> (as plink pointed out). If you (or 'texexec --make' to generate the
>> formats) ask kpathsea where to put the format files, it'll give you
>> a directory in TEXMFHOME, so a per user install. But how do you ask
>> kpathsea the correct question so that it'll tell you where they
>> should go for a system-wide install?
>>
> you can't and i remember asking for such a feature but ... ;
Can you point me to this discussion? I think it doesn't need more as
what fmtutil-sys, updmap-sys and texconfig-sys do before calling
fmtutil, updmap or texconfig, respectively:
v=`kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFSYSVAR`
c=`kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFSYSCONFIG`
TEXMFVAR="$v"
TEXMFCONFIG="$c"
export TEXMFVAR TEXMFCONFIG
exec updmap ${1+"$@"}
However, it would be probably more elegant and context-like to not have
texexec and texexec-sys, but rather a commandline switch - in this case
the handling would have to be done in the perl (or ruby?) scripts, which
is somewhat trickier.
> the only
> way to figure that out is to check all format paths and take the first
> one that fits; unfortunalty the tetex paths are rather messy so it's
> hard to predict in what permutation of home, usr, share, sys, opt *
> local * tex, TeX, teTeX, whatever * texmf, texmflocal, texmf-local,
> texmf-teTeX, texmf-dis, texmf.local, texmf-whocares * web2c,
> web2c/engine etc etc a format may end up;
I'm not sure what you mean. The default TEXMF path for teTeX (and I
think also for TeXlive) is
TEXMF =
{!!$TEXMFCONFIG,!!$TEXMFVAR,$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFSYSCONFIG,!!$TEXMFSYSVAR,!!$TEXMFMAIN,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFDIST}
where the first three are per-user, the others are system trees. An
explanation about installing does not need to know whether, for example,
TEXMFLOCAL is called texmf.local or texmf-local or
/usr/local/share/texmf. The only problem might be that some users
change the order or the trees, but that's not a big problem if we
suggest to use the default path.
> this is further complicated
> by the fact that kpse has to do some guessing about where it's
> configuration files are (web2c, etc, home, nowhere),
This is only a problem if people have more than one texmf.cnf - is this
actually the case? I don't think I ever heard of that.
> what trees make
> sense, etc etc; and, yes, some of the paths are hard coded in the
> binaries, so relocating is tricky ... isn't it magic that tex still
> runs -)
AFAIK only the search path for texmf.cnf is hard-coded, and that can't
be avoided. On the other hand, no one ever approached me and requested
a relocation: What would you want, and in which cases?
TIA, Frank
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Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> To me, as a TeXlive and teTeX guy, it seems preferrable to choose option >> 1 and fix the existing distribution scripts. However, I don't know yet >> what else is needed when ConTeXt is updated, therefore I might be wrong, >> and switching to texexec might actually be better. But then this should >> be done consistently, and fmtutil should drop context handling >> completely (or just call texexec). > > I am very much in favor of using texexec for everything related to > ConTeXt. Can you point me to the place where it is documented which calls are needed to be called - when ConTeXt is updated - when any of the engines is updated? I don't use ConTeXt myself, and I always have problems finding the relevant places in the documentation, sorry... Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry
Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Frank, > > Frank Küster wrote: >> >> Are some of the people around who wrote this? I found some information > > I do not use Debian and did not write that page, but I can answer your > questions partially, at least. Thank you - yes, this helps. >> - Is it intended that context formats end up in $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/? >> If yes, why is that so? If not, we should rather find out why it >> happens and fix it. > > Yes, it is. ConTeXt does not support only pdfetex, but all major > engines, like XeTeX and Aleph. I have formats in: > >$TEXMF/web2c/aleph/ >$TEXMF/web2c/luatex/ >$TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/ >$TEXMF/web2c/xetex/ Ah, okay, that's clear. Has this already been this way one year ago when texlive2005 was released? Do you know whether the TeXlive developers are aware of that? >> - Why does it make a difference if the formats are created by fmtutil >> instead of texexec (Except for the output directory)? Should the >> upstream packaging be changed so that fmtutil is never used, but >> texexec, or should fmtutil be fixed to produce the same as texexec? > > It is almost certainly better to ignore/block fmtutil and use texexec > instead. Properly setting up a ConTeXt update is not necesarily limited > to format generation only. Hm. What are the other things that need to be done? This is in fact an issue that affects not only Debian, but TeXlive and probably most TeX distributions. They currently assume that after an update of some files and/or executables, it's sufficient to run mktexlsr (possibly more than once), updmap(-sys) and "fmtutil(-sys) --all". If this is not sufficient for ConTeXt, there are two possibilities: - fix fmtutil and updmap so that they do the right thing for ConTeXt - or implement a way to automate calling texexec. This would include using some configuration file, since not everybody who has aleph or xetex installed also wants a context format for this engine. To me, as a TeXlive and teTeX guy, it seems preferrable to choose option 1 and fix the existing distribution scripts. However, I don't know yet what else is needed when ConTeXt is updated, therefore I might be wrong, and switching to texexec might actually be better. But then this should be done consistently, and fmtutil should drop context handling completely (or just call texexec). Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry
Hi everybody, this mail has a double purpose. At the end, there's a call for testers of a new (planned) Debian ConTeXt package that would be updated more frequently than now (at least in unstable and testing), where ConTeXt is tied to teTeX's or TeXlive's release cycles. But first, I'd like to talk about http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation Are some of the people around who wrote this? I found some information in it misleading and in part just wrong (this has already been pointed out two weaks ago by "plink"), and have started to edit the page to change the parts that give us, the Debian TeX maintaines, most headache. But in the lower part, "Steps to finish a first context upgrade", I felt lost. If these steps are really needed, then there's something seriously wrong in Debian's (and probably upstream's) packaging of ConTeXt. Therefore I didn't just change the text to reflect how I think it should work. Instead, we should try to figure out together whether it in fact does not work as it should, and then fix the Debian packages (hopefully still possible for etch). So the specific question I have are: - Is it intended that context formats end up in $TEXMF/web2c/pdfetex/? If yes, why is that so? If not, we should rather find out why it happens and fix it. - Why does it make a difference if the formats are created by fmtutil instead of texexec (Except for the output directory)? Should the upstream packaging be changed so that fmtutil is never used, but texexec, or should fmtutil be fixed to produce the same as texexec? Finally, here comes Norbert Preining's Call for Testers: Dear all! We = Debian TeX maintainers searching for users of the Debian Operating Systems which are also using ConTeXt. Currently Debian etch (testing) and sid (unstable) contains packages for TeX live 2005. But this contains a bit old ConTeXt version, so users are asking us to update ConTeXt. We have prepared a updated ConTeXt package for Debian, based on the latest released version (2006.08.08), and would ask you to help use testing, as we are not experienced in ConTeXt type settings. I checked some simple documents from the ConTeXt Garden, and they worked, but more detailed testing would be nice. If you have interest, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or, if you have a bit experience, you can straight away add deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and install context. After this, please tell us our experiences/failures/suggestions. Thanks a lot and all the best Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Placing table of contents in a frame
I'm trying to move a newsletter from a DTP program to ConTeXt. In this layout we have a blue column on the left side of the page with a table of contents. I played around with the framed command and layers, but did not find a way to put the TOC in a frame at a specific location. What would be a ConTeXt way of doing this? Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] man page for mptopdf
Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > i happily leave that to users; technically it should be possible to > process a manual source (to say mptopdf) so that it produces a man > page but not all manuals have the same structure (which means that i'd > have to write additional styles); maybe > > pdftotext somemanual.pdf somemanual.man > > is enough. > > As said, i happily leave creating man pages to users so I cc to the context > list. Debian people have written manpages for many ConTeXt executables. I even think we have one for each of them now. Here's the one for mptopdf. Regards, Frank mptopdf.1.gz Description: manpage -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Still font issues with I-Installer Mac OSX
Finally resolved by:
sudo rm -rf /usr/local/tetex
sudo rm -rf ~/Library/texmf
complete reinstall including ghostscript and cm-super
Regards,
FS
On 29-jun-06, at 10:28, Frank wrote:
> I did some more digging around in my system.
>
> Previously I used Darwinports TeTeX 3.0 which installs in
> /opt/local/
>
> I deinstalled and deleted the old tetex distro, but found a texmf in
> ~/Library. I am not sure if this directory was created by the old tetex
> installation or from I-installer.
>
> Would this cause issues with the updater?
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank
>
> On 28-jun-06, at 23:43, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>
>> On Jun 28, 2006, at 18:34, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>>> [1.1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/
>>> original-empty.
>>> map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/
>>> original-base.m
>>> ap}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-
>>> public-lm.map
>>> }{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-
>>> base.map}{/usr/
>>> local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/8r-base.map}{/
>>> usr/local/t
>>> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/qx-base.map}{/usr/
>>> local/teTeX/sh
>>> are/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}{/usr/local/
>>> teTeX/
>>> share/tex
>>> mf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/
>>> share/texm
>>> f.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-cmr.map}{/usr/local/
>>> teTeX/share/te
>>> xmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}{/usr/local/
>>> teTeX/shar
>>> e/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/
>>> local/teTeX/
>>> share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-plr.map}{/
>>> usr/local/t
>>> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-
>>> csr.map}{/usr/lo
>>> cal/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-
>>> vnr.map}{/u
>>> sr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-
>>> public-lm.map
>>>
>>>
>>> You are using pdftex, so I assume it should load the font map files
>>> in "map/pdftex", not in "map/dvips". But I do not know what package
>>> supplied those map/dvips font files in the first place, so I cannot
>>> help you any further. (that whole folder does not exist on my system)
>>
>> The ConTeXt updater writes to texmf.local which takes precedence over
>> texmf.tetex which contains a very old ConTeXt. It seems you installed
>> the TeX i-Package but you did not install the ConTeXt updater.
>>
>> G
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Re: [NTG-context] Still font issues with I-Installer Mac OSX
I did some more digging around in my system.
Previously I used Darwinports TeTeX 3.0 which installs in
/opt/local/
I deinstalled and deleted the old tetex distro, but found a texmf in
~/Library. I am not sure if this directory was created by the old tetex
installation or from I-installer.
Would this cause issues with the updater?
Regards,
Frank
On 28-jun-06, at 23:43, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2006, at 18:34, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>> [1.1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/
>> original-empty.
>> map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/
>> original-base.m
>> ap}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-
>> public-lm.map
>> }{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-
>> base.map}{/usr/
>> local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/8r-base.map}{/
>> usr/local/t
>> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/qx-base.map}{/usr/
>> local/teTeX/sh
>> are/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/
>> share/tex
>> mf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/
>> share/texm
>> f.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-cmr.map}{/usr/local/
>> teTeX/share/te
>> xmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}{/usr/local/
>> teTeX/shar
>> e/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/
>> local/teTeX/
>> share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-plr.map}{/
>> usr/local/t
>> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-
>> csr.map}{/usr/lo
>> cal/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-
>> vnr.map}{/u
>> sr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-
>> public-lm.map
>>
>>
>> You are using pdftex, so I assume it should load the font map files
>> in "map/pdftex", not in "map/dvips". But I do not know what package
>> supplied those map/dvips font files in the first place, so I cannot
>> help you any further. (that whole folder does not exist on my system)
>
> The ConTeXt updater writes to texmf.local which takes precedence over
> texmf.tetex which contains a very old ConTeXt. It seems you installed
> the TeX i-Package but you did not install the ConTeXt updater.
>
> G
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Re: [NTG-context] Still font issues with I-Installer Mac OSX
I did install the updater. Output from texexec is as follows:
texexec --version
TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
context : ver: 2005.01.31
cont-en : ver: 2006.06.09 13:05 fmt: 2006.6.26 mes:
english
cont-nl : ver: 2006.06.09 13:05 fmt: 2006.6.26 mes:
dutch
total run time : 15 seconds
I'm not sure what the meaning is of the context:ver:2005.01.31
Maybe not all of ConTeXt is updated by the updater on my system?
Regards,
Frank
On 28-jun-06, at 23:43, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2006, at 18:34, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>> [1.1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/
>> original-empty.
>> map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/
>> original-base.m
>> ap}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-
>> public-lm.map
>> }{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-
>> base.map}{/usr/
>> local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/8r-base.map}{/
>> usr/local/t
>> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/qx-base.map}{/usr/
>> local/teTeX/sh
>> are/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/
>> share/tex
>> mf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/
>> share/texm
>> f.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-cmr.map}{/usr/local/
>> teTeX/share/te
>> xmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}{/usr/local/
>> teTeX/shar
>> e/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/
>> local/teTeX/
>> share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-plr.map}{/
>> usr/local/t
>> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-
>> csr.map}{/usr/lo
>> cal/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-
>> vnr.map}{/u
>> sr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-
>> public-lm.map
>>
>>
>> You are using pdftex, so I assume it should load the font map files
>> in "map/pdftex", not in "map/dvips". But I do not know what package
>> supplied those map/dvips font files in the first place, so I cannot
>> help you any further. (that whole folder does not exist on my system)
>
> The ConTeXt updater writes to texmf.local which takes precedence over
> texmf.tetex which contains a very old ConTeXt. It seems you installed
> the TeX i-Package but you did not install the ConTeXt updater.
>
> G
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Re: [NTG-context] Still font issues with I-Installer Mac OSX
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Here is the log:
>>
>>
>
> From your log:
>
> [1.1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-empty.
> map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-base.m
> ap}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-public-lm.map
> }{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map}{/usr/
> local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/8r-base.map}{/usr/local/t
> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/qx-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/sh
> are/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/tex
> mf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-base.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texm
> f.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-cmr.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/te
> xmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/shar
> e/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/
> share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-plr.map}{/usr/local/t
> eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-csr.map}{/usr/lo
> cal/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-public-vnr.map}{/u
> sr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/context/texnansi-public-lm.map
>
>
> You are using pdftex, so I assume it should load the font map files
> in "map/pdftex", not in "map/dvips". But I do not know what package
> supplied those map/dvips font files in the first place, so I cannot
> help you any further. (that whole folder does not exist on my system)
>
> Good luck,
>
> Taco
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My guess is that some files are missing from map/pdftex and it then uses
map/dvips as a fallback. It would be interesting to know what you have
on your system in map/pdftex
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Re: [NTG-context] Still font issues with I-Installer Mac OSX
On 28-jun-06, at 14:44, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Frank wrote:
I get the pixel result attached. The output from texexec shows the
inclusion of the font:
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 10344 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
Something is still wrong, because it is downloading the bitmap.
Can you post the test.log?
Here is the log:
test.log
Description: Binary data
The font maps are now set correctly per instructions of Hans Hagen
automatically by the installer. See attached texmf.cnf file
On a second test I tried to use the postscript fonts:
\usetypescript[pos]
Make that
\usetypescript[pos][ec]
and it should work ok.
Unfortunately no. It has trouble with the font metrics. The log shows:
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-
akb.tex)kpathsea: Running mktextfm ec-uhvr8a
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map typeface
abbreviation c- for ec-uhvr8a.
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/fontname/special.map?
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;
nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.5)
kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-uhvr8a
! I can't find file `ec-uhvr8a'.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: ec-uhvr8a.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode;
input ec-uhvr8a' failed to make ec-uhvr8a.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
! Font \*12ptsstf*=ec-uhvr8a at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
not foun
d.
\relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
\let
\localrelativefontsiz...
\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname
\tryingfontfalse \fi
...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
\fi \iftryingfont
\fontstr...
\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
\relax \fi
\ifskipfontchar...
\getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
\edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle
}\if...
...
l.5 \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
?
Cheers, taco
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[NTG-context] Still font issues with I-Installer Mac OSX
Hello, I know that the font problems are a FAQ, but after reading the mail archives and manuals I am still having problems. I did a clean install of the I-Installer base installation (2005 default) yesterday and still get pixel fonts instead of outline fonts. Also I have problems using the adobe type1 fonts which worked before. I would like some pointers to resolve the problems as a lot of my older documents are typeset with ConTeXt using the old way of including adobekb file. Below are two examples of the problems encountererd When I create a very simple test test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document file: \starttext \input knuth \stoptext # texexec --pdf test I get the pixel result attached. The output from texexec shows the inclusion of the font: Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 10344 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. The font maps are now set correctly per instructions of Hans Hagen automatically by the installer. See attached texmf.cnf file texmf.cnf Description: Binary data On a second test I tried to use the postscript fonts: \usetypescript[pos] %\usetypescript[modern] \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt] \starttext \input knuth \blank Some ligatures: ffi, ffl. \stoptext Resulting in the output below. zoe:~/context frank$ texexec --pdf type1 TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : type1 output : pdftex interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/web2c/natural.tcx) entering extended mode (./type1.tex ConTeXt ver: 2006.06.09 13:05 fmt: 2006.6.26 int: english mes: english language: language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! color : palette rollover is available ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys.rme loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)) bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded language: patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:3 uk->ec:ec->2->2:3 de->texnansi:tex nansi->3->2:3 de->ec:ec->4->2:3 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3 fr->ec:ec->6->2:3 es->ec:ec->7->2:3 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:3 pt->ec:ec->9->2:3 it->texnansi :texnansi->10->2:3 it->ec:ec->11->2:3 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:3 nl->ec:ec- >13->2:3 cz->il2:il2->14->2:3 cz->ec:ec->15->2:3 sk->il2:il2->16->2:3 sk->ec:ec ->17->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:3 pl->ec:ec->19->2:3 pl->qx:qx->20->2:3 loaded specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : type1.top loaded (./type1.top specials: loading definition file tpd (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials: loading definition file fdf (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex) specials: fdf loaded ) specials: fdf,tpd loaded ) systems : system commands are disabled (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-map.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex) (/usr/local
Re: [NTG-context] Mini-survey: What do you do with ConTeXt?
After using LaTeX I use ConTeXt in my work environment (MS office based) for: - Letters, Quotes and Faxes - Reports (with floats and references) - Pricelists using perl based conversion of a database export But I must admit that I now increasingly use Apple Pages to write letters, faxes and the like as it just works faster (copy/paste graphic for example). For large documents ConTeXt stays the preferred option. What I miss is: - A layer on top of ConTeXt for common documents like Letters, Invoices, etc.. I had to build my own templates, which are not nearly as robust as the LaTeX classes I used before. - An IDE like LyX as it is easy to forget the macro's and getting in to a compile/error/correct cycle. Especially as the TeX error messages are not very clear to me. - A large user base. Regards, Frank On 04 Nov 2005, at 15:49, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi all, For the next issue of the ntg's Maps journal, Hans and I believe it would be nice to publish the collected responses to this simple question: What do you do with ConTeXT? We think it would be nice to see all the various ways in which people experience ConTeXt. We are not looking for articles, in fact we really want just a small amount of text per user, nothing longer then you would normally type in an email message. One, perhaps two paragraphs that simply tell about your personal experience using (or playing with) (or fighting with) (or yelling at) (or staring at in bewilderment) (or revelling in) (or running away from) ConTeXt. If you like this idea, just reply to this message. I will then collect and merge the responses, and finally put a pdf on-line somewhere. Don't be shy! Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] enumerated lists
Hello all (esp. the ConTeXt-Developers), some time ago I sent the following email to this list and got no reply so I'm resending it. Is there any possibility that this feature will be part of the next/one of the next ConTeXt-versions? Frank Dear all, I have a manuscript with long nested numbered enumerations and I want the numbers of all levels to be printed automatically like: 1. one 1.1 one-one 1.2 one-two 2. two 2.1 two-one 2.2.1 two-two-one ... Using the following prints only the current level's number, not all levels: \startitemize[n,packed] \item \item \startitemize[m,packed] \item \item \stopitemize \item \item \stopitemize For Latex there is the package paralist.sty for doing the desired numbering, how can this be done with ConTeXt? Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Guit
Hans Hagen schrieb: luigi.scarso wrote: 2. at http://www.guit.sssup.it/forum there is a forum for ConTeXt in italian language; i grep no 'context' on that page, so no opportunity to polish my italian -) Hans try the following link: http://www.guit.sssup.it/phpbb/index.php Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] \lowerleftdoubleninequote (German quotes)
Dear all,
I want to use German double quotes for my text but noticed that the
beginning double quotation sign/glyph is somewhat corrupt: there is a
bigger distance between the two signs than is with the ending double
quote (which are typographically correct). To make this a bit clearer, I
have appended to this email an examle. If you look very carfully you can
see this effect already in the Context Manual, chapter 10.8 page 198
(\lowerleftdoubleninequote).
The Code of the appended pdf is the following:
\mainlanguage [de]rules, quote signs etc.
\starttext
Dies ist ein \quotation{Test}.
\stoptext
Has anybody noticed this error, or does anybody know a solution?
Thanks,
Frank
anfu.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] inserting toc
Hello, I want to insert a table of contents but all I get is the following error message in the created pdf-file: [part,chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection not found/processed] According to the mp-cb-en.pdf page 51/52 documentation I included the following lines to the setup area: \definelist[chapter] \setuplist [chapter] [before=\blank, after=\blank, style=bold] \definelist[section] \setuplist [section] [alternative=d] \definecombinedlist [contents] [chapter,section] [level=subsection] and \placecontent after the \starttext and in front of the first \chapter. What am I doing wrong here? Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] enumerated lists
Dear all, I have a manuscript with long nested numbered enumerations and I want the numbers of all levels to be printed like: 1. one 1.1 one-one 1.2 one-two 2. two 2.1 two-one 2.2.1 two-two-one ... Using the following prints only the current level's number, not all levels: \startitemize[n,packed] \item \item \startitemize[m,packed] \item \item \stopitemize \item \item \stopitemize For Latex there is the package paralist.sty for doing the desired numbering, how can this be done with ConTeXt? Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] ConTeXt oddities
Dear fellow-ConTeXters, working with Context I noticed some small, strange behaviours: 1. I arranged pages in the following way: \definepapersize[myCustomLayout][width=12cm, height=19cm] \setuppapersize[myCustomLayout][A4,landscape] \setuparranging[2SIDE] now, when I use \showsetups I get the following values: paperhight: 18.9973cm paperwidth: 11.99829cm (happens with the rest of layout-definitions as well) well, sure enough nobody will see the difference in print... but nevertheless a bit annoying if you wanted to show the result of \showsetups to your clients (maybe the values are converted from cm to pt and back again?) 2. for control of orphans and widows I use the following: \clubpenalty=8000 \widowpenalty=8000 it seems, this has to be inserted after \starttext, which is - I think - not a too good place for such a global definition, shouldn't it be in the setup area before \starttext? but there I cant't get it working. Or am I doing something wrong with the commands? 3. if a command has lots of options it's better to sort of "pretty-print" those like the following: \setuplayout[ backspace=15mm, cutspace=10mm, ... grid=yes, marking=on, ] After some time (lots of time..) I figured out that the last "," is a must, without it, the last option is ignored - why is that? 4. I am well aware this has been asked before on this list, but no good solution came up: I need the footnote ref number to be beneath the main text, not in the small blank space between the text and the margin column. I managed to get it working with the hack by Paul Tremblay posted on this list some time ago and defined my own \myFootnote-command for it, but that is a "quick and dirty" solution, there has to be a better way, so I'd like to raise the question once again: How can this be done? Is it that difficult to change this kind of strange setting of footnotes? Many thanks for your answers, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Docbook -> pdf with ConTeXt
I am interested in using ConTeXt to create PDF's from Docbook documents and found one older resource trying to integrate both. What is the current status of docbook formatting with ConTeXt? Best Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Recommendation for creating, XHTML and PDF versions of single document
Hi, I have been very happy to use ConTeXt and LaTeX to create documents for printed media or onscreen PDF. Currently I am working with some documents that I want to publish in XHTML and PDF (print and screen). What would be the best way to achieve this? - Write in ConTeXt and convert it to XHTML - Write in some XML format like docbook and convert that to XHTML and PDF? I am leaning toward authoring in XML as it is the most flexible, but it is also very verbose and probably requires much more effort in the toolchain to create the output format's I want. Please let me know your experiences and recommendations. Best Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Recommendation for creating, XHTML and PDF versions of single document
Hans, Is there any documentation availble on context's xml handler? I looked a the PDF listing at the pragma-ade site, but the filenames did not seem to shown anything related to xml. Thanks, Frank On 2003, Dec 4, , at 10:35, Hans Hagen wrote: At 09:50 04/12/2003, you wrote: Hi, I have been very happy to use ConTeXt and LaTeX to create documents for printed media or onscreen PDF. Currently I am working with some documents that I want to publish in XHTML and PDF (print and screen). What would be the best way to achieve this? - Write in ConTeXt and convert it to XHTML - Write in some XML format like docbook and convert that to XHTML and PDF? I am leaning toward authoring in XML as it is the most flexible, but it is also very verbose and probably requires much more effort in the toolchain to create the output format's I want. Please let me know your experiences and recommendations. i'd go for coding in xml (whatever suits you best) and convert that to xhtml and pdf (using context's built in xml handler) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Problems with superscripts and macros
Patrick,
Thanks a lot, this was one nasty typo.
My text looks a lot better using the correct macro.
Regards,
Frank
On 2003, Nov 17, , at 15:33, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello Frank,
it took me a while to find the error, because it is really hidden:
However if I put the same sequence in a macro
\def\celcius{$^\circ$C}
-20\celsius\ Dewpoint
-20\celsius Dewpoint
What is going on,
you defined \celcius but used \celsius (s/c). \celsius is a
predefined macro in ConTeXt. Use \celsius{-20} Dewpoint in your case.
The macro \celsius is smart about math mode: see the difference in
\celsius{-20} Dewpoint \par
$\celsius{-20}$ Dewpoint \par
\celsius{$-20$} Dewpoint
and more importantly how to solve it.
drop your macro or use it ;-)
Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with superscripts and macros
Hi,
I actually dropped the use of the units module because it uses a roman
font where my text is in Helvetica. There is a trick to make the units
module use a sans-serif font, but in that case the \mu greek character
comes out as m, which is not what I wanted.
Thanks for the feedback though.
Regards,
Frank
On 2003, Nov 17, , at 15:21, Willi Egger wrote:
At 14:52 17.11.2003, Frank wrote:
Hi,
the solution is to use the \usemodule[units] command in the beginning
of your document.
When zou need to typset a unit you can say things like \Degrees
Celsius, \Square\Meter or \Milli\Meter
Regards Willi
Hello
I am having some big problems with superscripts. When I type:
-20$^\circ$C
I get the expected 20 degrees Celcius (-20oC)
However if I put the same sequence in a macro
\def\celcius{$^\circ$C}
-20\celsius\ Dewpoint
-20\celsius Dewpoint
I get as result:
-20 oCDewpoint
-20DoCewpoint
Where o symbolizes the degree symbol.
What is going on, and more importantly how to solve it.
Best Regards,
Frank
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[NTG-context] Problems with superscripts and macros
Hello
I am having some big problems with superscripts. When I type:
-20$^\circ$C
I get the expected 20 degrees Celcius (-20oC)
However if I put the same sequence in a macro
\def\celcius{$^\circ$C}
-20\celsius\ Dewpoint
-20\celsius Dewpoint
I get as result:
-20 oCDewpoint
-20DoCewpoint
Where o symbolizes the degree symbol.
What is going on, and more importantly how to solve it.
Best Regards,
Frank
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[NTG-context] Converting ConTeXt to HTML or RTF
Hello, I would like some advice on what conversion works best from ConTeXt files to either RTF or HTML so that non ConTeXt users can use my texts. Thanks in advance, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tables within tabulate environment
Similar to what you wrote: \starttabulate \NC test \NC Some text here, perhaps followed by an itemized list an a table \startitemize \item first item \item second item \stopitemize And some specifications in the following table: \starttabulatea \NC col1 row1 \NC col2 \NC\NR \stoptabulate \NC\NR \stoptabulate I tried a tabulate inside the tabulate as I was not sure that the table being a float would be moved somewhere else. Basically what I am trying to do is similar to HTML layout using nested tables within a running text. Regards, Frank On Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003, at 22:52 Europe/Brussels, Hans Hagen wrote: At 10:42 16/09/2003 +0200, Frank wrote: I am working on some documents which are based on a table which is part of the text flow and may break between pages. So I use the tabulate environment. However now I need to include a table inside a tabulate cell, but this does not seem to work. what kind of nesting? \starttabulate \NC test \NC \starttable[|||] \HL \VL test \VL test \VL \NR \HL \stoptable \NC \NR \stoptabulate nesting tabulates is not (yet) possible, i played a bit with it but it will cost me more time to handle it (due to soem global aspects) Hans --- -- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com --- -- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf --- -- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] tables within tabulate environment
Hi, I am working on some documents which are based on a table which is part of the text flow and may break between pages. So I use the tabulate environment. However now I need to include a table inside a tabulate cell, but this does not seem to work. How can I get around this? Best regards Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] How to stop pagebreak after section heading
Inserting \page works. I don't know why the pagebreak occurs as the \subject heading is directly followed by a text paragraph without any extra spacing. The heading are using the ConTeXt default setup, with the exception of setting the head in color. The only command which influences spacing is \setupwhitespace[big]. I guess that the penalty for the pagebreak is higher than that of having a pagebreak after the heading. In any case thanks for the help. Frank On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 13:56 Europe/Brussels, Hans Hagen wrote: At 13:21 17/07/2003 +0200, Peter Rolf wrote: What happens, if you insert a \page command (ConTeXt manual, real page 91) before this heading? or \testpage[5] which will insert a page break is less than 5 lines are available normally there will be no break after a head unless one puts some skips there or some command puts a prefered break there Hans --- -- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com --- -- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf --- -- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] How to stop pagebreak after section heading
Hello, I just reformatted one of my documents from A4 to A4 landscape, dual column format. Unfortunately ConTeXt put a pagebreak directly after a heading. This is probably due to the excessive amount of white space that would appear if the heading moved to the next page. Nevertheless this is what I would prefer. How do I do this? Best Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Defining your own custom numbered itemization
For a simple manual I would like to setup a sort of customized enumerated list, but I don't see how to do this in ConTeXt. What I would like to do have something like \setupitemize[9][inmargin][before=\itemcolor, inbetween=\stopcolor] \startitemize[9] \item This is step 1. \item Followed by step 2 \stopitemize In which the text is set as a numbered list with the numbers in the margin and set in color to make them stand-out. However I don't want to make this the default of the default numbered list using \startitemize[n]. Anyone know the best way to do this? Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] How to set font for units
Hello, How do I setup the font used by the SI-Unit abbreviations. I use something like the following: \usemodule[units] \setupbodyfont[pos,sansserif] \starttext The wavelength of the pulsed Nd:YAG laser is 1.064 \Micro\Meter. \stoptext The bodytext is in Helvetica, but the units are in times. How can I setup ConTeXt to use the sans-serif font for the units as well? Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Sample letter layout, replacement for NTG brief style
I currently use the Dutch NTG letter style with LaTeX, which I would like to replace with a ConTeXt based system. Even though LaTeX works fine, I think that I can better spend my time on learning ConTeXt as this will not limit me so much in future projects. So I was wondering if any ConTeXt users have already created a layout file to write letters, with the appropriate placement of the Address, logo's, folding stripes, etc.. If not than I would like to solicit some pointers on how to do two things: 1. place a logo at an exact XY position on the paper 2. exact placement of the address block (as this needs to fit with standard envelope windows). Regards, Frank ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Conversion LaTeX -> ConTeXt
Hello there, I am starting to move away from LaTeX to ConTeXt and was wondering if some ConTeXt users have written scripts to convert LaTeX documents to ConTeXt documents. Or perhaps just partial conversions, for example from a LaTeX tabular environment to a ConTeXt table. Also I would be interested in layout definitions which could replace the LaTeX article and NTG brief layout, as a starting point for further customization. Best Regards, Frank Sonnemans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: \setupbodyfont[pos] on Mac OSX ---> tfmfile not found?
Hello Patrick, This really solved a big problem for me (converting articles from LaTeX in helvetica type to ConText without (for now) changing the appearance to much). Thanks a lot. Frank On 2003-6-18 09:58, "Patrick Gundlach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hello Frank(?) > >> Does anyone have a working TeX installation on OSX where the >> \setupbodyfont[pos] command works? > > Yes, I do. > > >> \usetypescript[berry][8a] and other commands wich were mentioned in >> the maillist archive, but to no avail. > > goto http://levana.de/context/ and look for adobekb. > >> I have the impression problems are caused by Context wanting EC >> encoded files which were dropped from the teTeX distribution some >> time ago. > > Fonts in EC encoding are still part of teTeX. > > > > Patrick (back in life) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
