Re: [NTG-context] Super slow installation
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 13:40 (-0400), Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2023, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote: >> FWIW, I'm seeing the same slow down issue from three different machines: >>1. My personal computer in Vancouver BC. >>2. A work computer on Vancouver Island (Victoria BC) >>3. Microsoft ADO servers (presumably in Seattle WA). >> Is it possible there's a slow pipe from North America to Europe? > Could be. For me (Montreal, Canada) it took more than a minute: > ❯ wget http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf.zip > --2023-05-30 13:38:26-- http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf.zip > Resolving lmtx.pragma-ade.com (lmtx.pragma-ade.com)... 213.125.29.165 > Connecting to lmtx.pragma-ade.com (lmtx.pragma-ade.com)|213.125.29.165|:80... > connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 53293716 (51M) [application/zip] > Saving to: ‘texmf.zip’ > texmf.zip 100%[==>] 50.82M 637KB/sin 72s > 2023-05-30 13:39:38 (721 KB/s) - ‘texmf.zip’ saved [53293716/53293716] Can I play too? time wget http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf.zip --2023-05-30 16:14:51-- http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf.zip Resolving lmtx.pragma-ade.com (lmtx.pragma-ade.com)... 213.125.29.165 Connecting to lmtx.pragma-ade.com (lmtx.pragma-ade.com)|213.125.29.165|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 53293716 (51M) [application/zip] Saving to: ?texmf.zip? texmf.zip 100%[===>] 50.82M 3.76MB/sin 13s 2023-05-30 16:15:05 (3.79 MB/s) - ?texmf.zip? saved [53293716/53293716] wget http://lmtx.pragma-ade.com/install-lmtx//texmf.zip 0.06s user 0.61s system 4% cpu 13.780 total So that is 13.78 seconds from Dartmouth, NS (that's the "far east" for those of you who don't know Canadian geography :-). Jim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] broken?
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 12:35 (-0400), Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Jim via ntg-context wrote:
>> In the wiki page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Indentation there is the
>> following example:
>> %
>> \setupindenting[medium,yes]
>> \setupitemize[indentnext=auto]
>> \startitemize
>> \item One
>> \stopitemize
>> This paragraph should be indented - due to the blank line after
>> \type{\stopitemize}.
>> \startitemize
>> \item Two
>> \stopitemize
>> This paragraph should not be indented.
>> %
>> Tragically, the paragraph which claims it should be indented is not, in
>> both my test and the wiki page itself.
>> Is this a documentation bug, a ConTeXt bug, or something else yet?
> Works in mkiv but appears to be a bug in lmtx. I haven't debugged what is
> going wrong.
> Aditya (who wrote bulk of that wiki page)
Thanks very much for getting back. And for your wiki contributions.
Jim
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] broken?
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 08:28 (-0400), Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 02:27:56PM -0300, Jim via ntg-context wrote:
>> In the wiki page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Indentation there is the
>> following example:
>> %
>> \setupindenting[medium,yes]
>> \setupitemize[indentnext=auto]
>> \startitemize
>> \item One
>> \stopitemize
>> This paragraph should be indented - due to the blank line after
>> \type{\stopitemize}.
>> \startitemize
>> \item Two
>> \stopitemize
>> This paragraph should not be indented.
>> %
>> Tragically, the paragraph which claims it should be indented is not, in
>> both my test and the wiki page itself.
>> Is this a documentation bug, a ConTeXt bug, or something else yet?
> I don't know.
OK, but I wasn't asking you specifically.
> Why would it be a documentation bug if it clearly says it should be
> indented only after the blank line, unless \indent was omitted on purpose
> while trying to make it look as if the blank line would have any effect
> after all. Makes no sense.
Have you never run into a documentation bug before? Happy you!
I see two possibly reasons for a documentation bug here (there might be more):
(1) The documentation was incorrect at time of writing. Humans have been
known to make mistakes.
(2) The semantics of \setupitemize might have changed since the documentation
was written, and the change has not yet been reflected in this
particular piece of documentation.
This would not be the first time that documentation changes lagged
behind code changes.
The point is, there is a disconnect between the documentation says will
happen and what actually happens. I don't know which is wrong, and thus my
question. I hope that sooner or later someone who can definitively comment
on the disconnect will speak up.
> \setupindenting[medium,yes]
> \setupitemize[indentnext=auto]
> \starttext
> \startitemize
> \item One
> \stopitemize\indent%blank line
> This paragraph should be indented - due to the blank line after
> \type{\stopitemize}.
> \startitemize
> \item Two
> \stopitemize
> \noindent{\dorecurse{10}{\indent This paragraph should not be indented.}}
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations problem
In https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations there is this example:
%
\setupwhitespace[big]
\definesymbol[1][$\triangleright$]
\startcolumns
{\bf joinedup:}\par before \startitemize[joinedup]
\item test \item test \stopitemize after \par
{\bf nowhite:} \par before \startitemize[nowhite]
\item test \item test \stopitemize after \par
{\bf joinedup,nowhite:}\par before \startitemize[joinedup,nowhite]
\item test \item test \stopitemize after \column
{\bf joinedup,nowhite,before:} \par before
\startitemize[joinedup,nowhite,before] \item test \item test \stopitemize after
\par
{\bf joinedup,nowhite,after:} \par before
\startitemize[joinedup,nowhite,after] \item test \item test \stopitemize after
\stopcolumns
%
In my test "joinedup" leaves whitespace before the first list item and
after the last, but in the sample output there is no space.
While someone (?) is thinking about that, my (extremely rudimentary!) tests
also indicate that there is no need to use "joinedup" when you use "nowhite".
Is this indeed the case (in which case the wiki page could use an edit) or
are there case where both "joinedup" and "nowhite" are needed together (in
which case the wiki page could stand a little more information).
Thanks.
Jim
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[NTG-context] \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] broken?
In the wiki page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Indentation there is the
following example:
%
\setupindenting[medium,yes]
\setupitemize[indentnext=auto]
\startitemize
\item One
\stopitemize
This paragraph should be indented - due to the blank line after
\type{\stopitemize}.
\startitemize
\item Two
\stopitemize
This paragraph should not be indented.
%
Tragically, the paragraph which claims it should be indented is not, in
both my test and the wiki page itself.
Is this a documentation bug, a ConTeXt bug, or something else yet?
Cheers.
Jim
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Re: [NTG-context] contextgarden wiki
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 09:31 (+0200), Taco Hoekwater wrote: >> On 30 Mar 2023, at 00:23, Jim via ntg-context wrote: >> At https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Wiki:About there is a Contact section, >> including >> For general questions (any questions!), start a new topic on the >> Context_wiki:Discussions page. >> If you need the help of an administrator, there is a list of >> administrators at Context_wiki:Administrators. >> There are *no* topics on the Discussions page, and the Administrators page >> doesn't exist. This causes me to be concerned that no one is there. >> Is anyone there? > Yes! And I fixed the missing interwiki prefix. The pages actually exist, > but the link prefix didn’t. Thanks very much, it is a good help. >> In case anyone wonders why I am asking... I was looking at the wiki page >> for "\listing", which is no longer in Mk IV (and may also not be in Mk II >> (I didn't check)). In 2015 both Hans and Wolfgang mentioned in this list >> that the command was gone. > You meant "\nolist”. I did. Mea culpa. > I am sure there are more obsolete command pages, but they are not easy to > find. I edited this page by using the also obsolete \couplepage as an > example. Thanks, if I come across any more pages I can identify as obsolete, I'll mark them in a similar way. (I am working my way through A Not So Short Introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV and the author occasionally says something like "I couldn't get this to work", which is how I came across \nolist. Perhaps on a rainy day I'll hunt through that document and it will reveal some other obsolete commands.) Cheers. Jim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] contextgarden wiki
At https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Wiki:About there is a Contact section, including For general questions (any questions!), start a new topic on the Context_wiki:Discussions page. If you need the help of an administrator, there is a list of administrators at Context_wiki:Administrators. There are *no* topics on the Discussions page, and the Administrators page doesn't exist. This causes me to be concerned that no one is there. Is anyone there? In case anyone wonders why I am asking... I was looking at the wiki page for "\listing", which is no longer in Mk IV (and may also not be in Mk II (I didn't check)). In 2015 both Hans and Wolfgang mentioned in this list that the command was gone. I just edited the wiki to note that the command was gone, should anyone venture there, but I think even better would be to delete the wiki page entirely. However, that sounds like a decision for senior management, and I was going to ask them, but I couldn't find the right corner office. Thoughts? Jim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Spacing problem around decimal point
Hi all, I d/l'ed that binary, replaced the TeXlive version (which is dated March 11, even though I just updated texlive 5 minutes ago) and, lo and behold, the PDF now looks like it should. So from my point of view, that particular issue is resolved. Sorry about your issues with Mac security. I have this feeling that Apple is slowly iterating towards a state where they sell you an expensive computer with a beautiful acrylic and polished stainless steel stand and ask you just to admire it, but don't touch it. :-) Jim On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 14:56 (-0600), Gavin via ntg-context wrote: > Hi Hans, Jim, Bruce, et.al. > Han’s asked me >> can you pick up a binary from: >> https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/work/ >> and test it? > Maybe. I picked up the binary, but testing it is not quite as easy as it > might be due to the MacOS security settings. I’ll see what I can do, but I > know very little about Unix/Darwin. > Since this appears to be an issue across multiple platforms, I’d welcome > anyone else checking the new binary. (Thanks, Günter!) > Best, > Gavin > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Spacing problem around decimal point
Hi all,
Regrettably, I see the same problem and Gavin.
I am using TeXlive 2023 on Slackware64 15.0, for what that is worth.
Jim
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 17:36 (+0200), Günter Kolousek via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
> I can confirm that the x64_64-linux from
> https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/work/
> version works correctly. So, no excess spaces around the
> decimal points at all.
> HTH
> Günter
> Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2023-03-26 13:22 +02:
>> On 3/26/2023 4:20 AM, Gavin via ntg-context wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>> I’m getting strange spaces around some decimal points after a clean
>>> LMTX
>>> install. MWE:
>>> \starttext
>>> \startformula
>>> v = \frac{1.32}{1.41} = 0.935
>>> \stopformula
>>> \stoptext
>>> This produces the result attached below. The 1.32 looks fine, but
>>> the next two
>>> numbers have excess space around the decimal point. Adding the line
>>>\showmakeup[mathglue] %\mathspacingmode=1
>>> to the preamble reveals that the second and third decimal points are
>>> being
>>> treated as binary operators. It’s very strang. Are others getting
>>> this?
>> can you pick up a binary from:
>> https://dl.contextgarden.net/build/luametatex/work/
>> and test it?
>> Hans
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