Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-14 Thread Jonas Stein
 In that case one should better run mtxrun instead of luatools (they
 are equivalent at the moment, but luatools is becomming obsolete).

 Ahhh ... I guess that needs some divine inspiration to know ...

 And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the
 structure of texmf trees in debian.

 Of course, looking into it I graasped that now.

 Why on earth can mtxrun not simply load the main texmf.cnf like
 any other program in the TeX world and initialize the values from 
 there I ask myself.

 I am slowly giving up on ConTeXt. It is changing in arbitrary directions
 far too often, and still things like multi-user support are not
 here since ages. I know, it is primary Hans' system and it has to
 work primarily on his computer, but that means that distributing
 it within any distribution system is plain pain :-(

 All that of course relates only to MkIV. I guess I will just add
 one sentence to the README.Debian:
   MkIV is not suppored on Debian. If you know how to set it
   up you can do it yourself and educate the maintainer,
   otherwise simply use MkII or the ConTeXt minimals.

Its so sad to read this but no other reply on this thread till now.
As far i have looked into the .deb packages the bug should be in the 
current stable versions too.

The ideas behind context are so nice and could save us from so 
much latex-pain. If there are no context-packages, that work
out of the box it will be a project for developers.
Developers are known to code and not to write documentation...

Is there any hope that context will become a replacement of latex?

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost here

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

MetaPost embedded in ConTeXt does not work here, but plain 
MetaPost works fine:

This [1] test works fine if i call 
mpost test.1
I can see a circle.

But this [2] fails.

Does ConTeXt expect MetaPost to have the executable named mp?
On my debian system its called mpost

[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost#Troubleshooting_plain_MetaPost
[2] 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost#Troubleshooting_MetaPost_embedded_in_ConTeXt

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost here

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
here is my typescript:

$ cat test.tex 
\starttext
\systemcommandmode
\startMPcode
   draw fullcircle scaled 3cm ;
\stopMPcode


$ context test.tex 

MTXrun | forcing cache reload
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

=another try==

$ texexec --lua  test.tex okular test.pdf 

MTXrun | kpse fallback with progname 'context' initialized in 0.05 
secondsTeXExec | processing document 'test.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file test.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 968
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en

MTXrun | forcing cache reload
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-base.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'
TeXExec | runtime: 0.171907

=another try==

$ texexec --pdf  test.tex okular test.pdf 

works, but 
\systemcommandmode

does not give a '2' or '1' as respond. It gives a '^'

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Re: [NTG-context] nice pictures for the wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
can someone check, if this picture is correct for mkiv?
https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart/blob/master/gfx/context_machine_mkiv.svg

it should show the workflow from .tex --- pdf file

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost here

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
On 2011-01-10, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
 On 01/10/2011 03:50 PM, Jonas Stein wrote:
 $ context test.tex

 MTXrun | forcing cache reload
 MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found

 Something is wrong with your installation. Mkiv should have found
 a texmfcnf.lua at this spot. What distribution are you running?

the system is debian testing.
i have the distribution packages installed for texlive and so on.

I got context from here:
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/all/context/download

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Re: [NTG-context] nice pictures for the wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
 Nice idea, but
 - I'd leave out the TeX box (TeX is part of LuaTeX)

changed this now.

 - perhaps make that ConTeXt label Mk IV or just IV

i do not understand. Why is ConTeXt mkiv not good?

 - perhaps show more input formats (pictures)?

changed this now.

 - I didn't know LuaTeX can output SVG

I think i read this somewhere, but i am not shure...
changed this for now.

 - perhaps show optional XML output (and even re-input for tagged PDF)?

i do not understand this. 

your suggestions are online now:
https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart/tree/master/gfx

 BTW: Nice to see my ex-wife's cooking lion again ;-)
 There's another drawing by her: 
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Gardeninglion.jpg

yes. It would be nice if we would have more graphics we can use free.

btw: in the wiki are many private pictures of babys and so on is that
by purpose?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
 Now, I have installed the pointed package for testing and I confirm the
 result:

Thank you for testing.

I made a bugreport for Norbert.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609600

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Re: [NTG-context] nice pictures for the wiki

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
 btw: in the wiki are many private pictures of babys and so on is that
 by purpose?
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Future_ConTeXt_Users

ok i see. funny page...

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[NTG-context] source code repos

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
on the wiki main page are many links to the source code

=
*  Source code 

The original source code Current Version and Beta Version 
Browse git and it's mirror 
Browse why outdated? 

* Documentation of the source code 
=

it appears only 
http://gitorious.org/context
is under active development, right?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-10 Thread Jonas Stein
 I assume from minimals install script that you need to generate the
 format with mtxrun --generate --tree=xxx --some --options but failed
 at this point…
 Maybe Mojca or Arthur (as authors of bin/mtx-update.lua) could complete?

 Anyway, the post-install script packaged with that .deb doesn't seem to
 do the job for you…

Same in the old stable .deb package. 
That will render the package unusable for many modules 
until the user fixes it manual as root, right?

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-09 Thread Jonas Stein
On 2011-01-09, Jonas Stein n...@jonasstein.de wrote:
 You can extract the files inside $TEXMFLOCAL (usually set to 
 /usr/local/share/texmf, but see the output of

 Thank you again. I tried it now:


 $ kpsewhich --expand-var=\$TEXMFLOCAL
 /usr/local/share/texmf

 i extracted the zip file there as root and called 
 # mktexlsr
 as root. 
 Then i checked as user if the file can be found:

 $ kpsewhich t-simpleslides.tex
 /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/third/simpleslides/t-simpleslides.tex

 then i run my makefile with 
 $ make view

 that calls
 texexec --utfbom --pdf context-schnelleinstieg.tex

 .
 .
 .
 system  : module empty not found
 system  : module simpleslides not found
 .
 .
 .


 there are two things i do not understand:
 1) why are the modules still not found?
 2) why is no errorcode raised but a pdf is created on a 
 major problem like missing module? 

 kind regards,

sorry i forgot the link:
the log files and the .tex files are here:
https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-09 Thread Jonas Stein
 It appears that you have a mismatch of the log and tex files.

sorry, my fault. 



 module. (BTW, the style is Swoosh, with capital S). Moreover, the call to 

i changed it to capital Swoosh
now i have different color for the text in the pdf, but i can not see 
the wave-effect yet.

 near the end. Can you update the log with a \loggingall before loading the 
 module?

i have uploaded it now as you told me.

its here:
https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-09 Thread Jonas Stein

 now i have different color for the text in the pdf, but i can not see
 the wave-effect yet.

 Please also upload the pdf.

https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart/blob/master/context-schnelleinstieg.pdf

 Does a simple file with metappost graphics works?

 \starttext
 \startMPcode
   draw fullcircle scaled 3cm ;
 \stopMPcode
 \stoptext

i tested it in test.tex and test.pdf 
i did not see a circle. Just a pagenumber.
https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-09 Thread Jonas Stein
 You need to either enable write18 or add
 \runMPgraphicsfalse
 on the top of your file.


I put \runMPgraphicsfalse in the first line of test.tex. 
That changed nothing.

Then i searched for write18 in the wiki. I found 
ConTeXt defines \systemcommandmode that is 2 if \write18 is enabled, 1 
otherwise.  on [1]

so i wrote \systemcommandmode to get a 2 or 1 in textbody. [2]
But i did not get a 1 or 2. Now i can see the circle and a ^ 
I have no idea, where the ^ comes from.


 I think that this information needs to be added to the texlive 
 installation page on the wiki.

in the year 2006 someone wrote [3]:

Hans response on the mailing list
write 18 is a hack and pdfshellescape a sane replacement
in luatex it will probably be gone completely since there we have
\directlua 0 { os.execute(...) }


I wonder if write18 is necessary 5 years later.


[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/write18
[2] https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart/blob/master/test.tex#L2
[3] 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/index.php?title=write18direction=nextoldid=6802

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-09 Thread Jonas Stein
 I put \runMPgraphicsfalse in the first line of test.tex.
 That changed nothing.

 Do you have the metapost executable and format. Does a minimal metapost 
 file work.

i think i have metapost installed:

# whereis mpost 
mpost: /usr/bin/mpost /usr/share/man/man1/mpost.1.gz


 Hans response on the mailing list
 write 18 is a hack and pdfshellescape a sane replacement
 in luatex it will probably be gone completely since there we have
 \directlua 0 { os.execute(...) }
 

 I wonder if write18 is necessary 5 years later.

 You need to use MkIV to get the new features :)

OK lets try. I have installed the package context 2010.07.30-1 [1] 
on my system. 

I tried 
texexec --lua test.tex 
and
context test.tex

but both generate no pdf.

they tell me:

MTXrun | forcing cache reload
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'





[1] http://packages.debian.org/experimental/context

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-09 Thread Jonas Stein
 # whereis mpost
 mpost: /usr/bin/mpost /usr/share/man/man1/mpost.1.gz

 Does it work? That is if you compile

 beginfig(1)
   draw fullcircle scaled 3cm ;
 endfig ;
 end ;

 using `mp file.mp` do you get a correct file.1 file (open it using a ps 
 viewer).

$ mpost file.mp  okular file.1

shows me a nice circle.
mp is not available on my system, but mpost claims to be metapost:

$ mpost -version
MetaPost 1.208

does context expect it as 'mp'? I could create a alias mp -- mpost

 Otherwise I don't know why you are getting erratic behavior with metapost. 
 Sometimes, an extra run helps.

i tried it several times and deleted the .pdf files before.
I wonder why context is so quiet if errors occour. 
If something fails it should always break with errorcode != 0


 As explained on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV you need to 
 run

luatools --generate.

i suppose its a bug of the debian package if i have to run it 
after installation via .deb system.

as user i did now:

$ luatools --generate


MTXrun | forcing cache reload
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-base.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'

=

seems something goes wrong here too.

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[NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

i am familiar with latex beamer and like to make a similar 
pdf presentation in context [1].

I found nice designs like pre-22 where can i find a good 
example for the text structure 
(like table of contents and headlines)?

My title page appeares on all pages and such. 

Kind regards,

[1] 
https://github.com/jonasstein/context-quickstart/blob/master/context-schnelleinstieg.tex

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[NTG-context] Page of the month in the wiki

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
Do you think some page of the month or a monthly changing 
example picture would make the startpage more attractive?

May be we could place it next to Documentation

| Welcome  | News|
| get started|
| doc  | picture |
| tricks |


[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
 i am familiar with latex beamer and like to make a similar 
 pdf presentation in context [1].
 
 I found nice designs like pre-22 where can i find a good 
 example for the text structure 
 (like table of contents and headlines)?

 Take a look at the simpleslides module.

Where can i find an example of simpleslides usage?


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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein

 Where can i find an example of simpleslides usage?
 http://modules.contextgarden.net/simpleslides

Thank you. I found out, that my code did not work because
simpleslides was not part of the debian context package.

I have downloaded the zip file and extracted it.
What should i do with it? 
I dont want to copy it to any /usr/*/texmf/.. directory manually. 
That would crash the package manager. 

Is it possible to copy some files to the current project directory,
where the .tex files is that needs simpleslides? 
That would not touch my tex-system or debian system.

[1] http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/t-simpleslides-2010.02.10.zip

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[NTG-context] luatex.org down?

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi 
i get no response at the moment 
(Sun Jan  9 00:56:38 CET 2011) for luatex.org
and its subdomain http://tracker.luatex.org/


ping tracker.luatex.org
PING www.luatex.org (195.12.62.12) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- www.luatex.org ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 6047ms



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[NTG-context] nice pictures for the wiki

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

What is ConTeXt [1] has the most pageviews in the wiki
(after the main page) 

But this page is not very impressive for new users yet.

Has anyone some diagrams that explain the flow of context or 
things like that? 
I think i saw once a diagram about 
context = lua = tex 

Please upload your diagram / flowcharts. If they were created
with dia or similar please make the source available too.

Thanks a lot.


[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/What_is_ConTeXt


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Re: [NTG-context] luatex.org down?

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
 i get no response at the moment
 (Sun Jan  9 00:56:38 CET 2011) for luatex.org
 and its subdomain http://tracker.luatex.org/

 It's just you:

it is available here again now too.

 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.luatex.org
 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/tracker.luatex.org

Thank you for the link. Nice page.

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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Stein
 You can extract the files inside $TEXMFLOCAL (usually set to 
 /usr/local/share/texmf, but see the output of

Thank you again. I tried it now:


$ kpsewhich --expand-var=\$TEXMFLOCAL
/usr/local/share/texmf

i extracted the zip file there as root and called 
# mktexlsr
as root. 
Then i checked as user if the file can be found:

$ kpsewhich t-simpleslides.tex
/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/third/simpleslides/t-simpleslides.tex

then i run my makefile with 
$ make view

that calls
texexec --utfbom --pdf context-schnelleinstieg.tex

.
.
.
system  : module empty not found
system  : module simpleslides not found
.
.
.


there are two things i do not understand:
1) why are the modules still not found?
2) why is no errorcode raised but a pdf is created on a 
major problem like missing module? 

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[NTG-context] confusion: 2 Bugtracker?

2010-12-18 Thread Jonas Stein
On http://minimals.contextgarden.net/

Bug tracker: https://launchpad.net/context;

but on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page
Bug tracker links to Mantis:
http://tracker.luatex.org/my_view_page.php;

Why are there 2 Bugtrackers?

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[NTG-context] why lua?

2010-12-17 Thread Jonas Stein
i'd like to make a small presentation for friends about
context. 
Why do we use lua and not python or perl or...
Where can i find the features for lua for this job?

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[NTG-context] Wiki: Bug: cmd/foo/cmd does not link to foo-reference

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein
cmdfoo/cmd
creates a javascript link that opens a new small window with the 
reference list inside.

It would be nice, if it would open the corresponding page.
like 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/foo

is that possible?

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Re: [NTG-context] \par in end of define fails

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein
 \define[1]\myoneliner{#1 \par }
 raises an error.

 \define[1]\myoneliner{#1 \endgraf}

works fine. Thank you!

 This is also nicely covered in TeXBook.
 Alternatively \long\def might work.

\long\define[1]\myoneliner{#1 \par }
fails too

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Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein
 Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
 pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a 

 PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack 
 space))

 It's easily reproducible with a simple

 \starttext
 \dorecurse{5}{
 \input knuth
 }

 Once it reaches page 4000 it will die.

i could run this
\starttext 
\dorecurse{5}{narf \page}
\stoptext 

==
pdfTeX warning: pdftex: no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet!
Output written on test.pdf (5 pages, 10574005 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
TeXExec | runtime: 310.679998
==

and got 5 pages in one pdf.
Okular is quite slow in opening it and needs 200 MB RAM, but it works.

But i could not use Ctrl-C to break the loop. 
I think that is a bug, or not?

i use this context:
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/context

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[NTG-context] where is the source repository?

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein
in the wiki are many different links to the source 
repository. 
Most of them look strange, so there is one wich dates on
2010-MAR

What is the repository you are working with?
Somewhere i read about switching to git. 
Do you use git already? 

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Re: [NTG-context] Which way to type greek letters in synonym list?

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein

 \abbreviation[ALPHA]{α}{Angle of something}
 \setupbodyfont[termes]
 \starttext
 \ALPHA
 \stoptext

a copy is here now:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/definesynonyms#Hint

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Re: [NTG-context] Three column nomenclature settings?

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein

 But I want a three-column nomenclature list. The first column is the
 synonym, the second is the meaning, the third is the si-unit of it, if the
 synonym has an unit. Like

you could use
 \define[3]\mynomenclature{...}

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/define


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[NTG-context] FR: Wiki: Button to include code area

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein
My Featurerequest for the Wiki:

in some wikis its possible to enhance the buttons 
in the edit window with own tags.

I would suggest to add 

context source=yes
$text
/context


that should work like the link button that creates [[$text]]

That would be fantastic!
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Re: [NTG-context] how to insert a imagefile like a letter?

2010-12-16 Thread Jonas Stein
 Why do you need a command, symbols are the perfect tool for this
 and with a symbol you can even do this:

i'd like to renew this document:

http://jonasstein.de/lib/exe/fetch.php?id=downloadcache=cachemedia=signaltabelle.pdf

the tex-code would be more readable if i could write \bell\ \bell\ 

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[NTG-context] \par in end of define fails

2010-12-15 Thread Jonas Stein
\define[1]\myoneliner{#1 \par }

raises an error. 
Why, and how should i repair it?

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Re: [NTG-context] how to insert a imagefile like a letter?

2010-12-14 Thread Jonas Stein
 bell.pdf provides a small bell in black and white as 
 vectordrawing
 i'd like to get that bell in height of the current letter f
 on the position where i type \bell
 
 my first test with
 \externalfigure[bell][width=1em]
 creates a bell with lentgh of 1em... but
 
 How can i get a small bell? 

 \definefiguresymbol[bell][bell]

 \starttext
 … \symbol{bell} …
 \stoptext

that works fine. Thank you.

the bell has the size of a small 'n' how can i scale it to the
size of an 'f'?

\definefiguresymbol[bell][bell] 
\define[]\bell{\symbol{bell}}
 \starttext
 … \bell …
 \stoptext

fails. Why?

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Re: [NTG-context] winter cleanup in the wiki

2010-12-13 Thread Jonas Stein

 there are (were) many duplicate installation pages in the
 wiki.

 I merged some and deleted a lot duplicate stuff.
 The work is not finished yet.

 i created a new category in the wiki:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:deleteme

 These articles are merged to others and no longer needed.

 Is the part about Configuration files still up to date?
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation_hints

 Its last edited in 2008 and links to manuals from 2001 and 2003.

 maybe add a note there that it might make more sense to install the 
 minimals or texlive (context package)

here is that note:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation_by_os

How do you think should we handle pages, that are obsolete in 
the wiki?


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/pdftex.cfg
said:
There's no more pdftex.cfg since TDS 2004!

I tagged pages like this one with deleteme

But what is the best solution for them?
Has this Wiki a Merge function to save the history? 
Should we empty and unlink them? Delete them?

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Re: [NTG-context] installation on debian testing

2010-12-13 Thread Jonas Stein
within the time Norbert Preining prepared a new .deb package 
including context (2010.07.30-1) 

its status is experimental for now.

There will be context 2009 in debian 6.0 stable. 
So this might be a good solution for most debian users for the next
months (or years).

i have just testet it on debian testing (squeeze) and it works fine.

Here is how to do it:

1. Download the .deb 
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/all/context/download

2. run as root
dpkg -i context_2010.07.30-1_all.deb

3. work with context.

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Re: [NTG-context] How about a forum

2010-12-13 Thread Jonas Stein

 wondering why there ist no forum for Context. I spend a lot of time 
 getting into new themes, and I always like the functions of forums.

What functions do you miss?

Have you tried the gmane mirror?
You can configure your newsreader to be coloured like a forum.
Some even support to exchange smileys to icons.

If you like to have a signature, you can write a line below -- 
If you want to show your avatar/face to the world 
you can use xface.

Its a evidence of good technology, that mailinglists and newsserver
still live in professional area after more then 20 years.

choose your favourite one here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Usenet_newsreaders

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Re: [NTG-context] New ConText Group

2010-12-13 Thread Jonas Stein
 We are proud to announce that the ConTeXt community has 
 its own users-organisation. 

congratulations!

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[NTG-context] how to insert a imagefile like a letter?

2010-12-13 Thread Jonas Stein
bell.pdf provides a small bell in black and white as 
vectordrawing


i'd like to get that bell in height of the current letter f
on the position where i type \bell

my first test with
\externalfigure[bell][width=1em]
creates a bell with lentgh of 1em... but


\define[]\bell{\externalfigure[bell][width=1em]\ }
.
.
\starttext
\bell
.
.


fails.

How can i get a small bell? 
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[NTG-context] installation on debian testing

2010-12-12 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

context in debian testing is quite old (2009) 

will that destroy my packagemanager or is 
it a good idea, to try this:

purge the installed context
as root run 
# checkinstall bash
then the commands of
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#System-wide_installation

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[NTG-context] winter cleanup in the wiki

2010-12-12 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

there are (were) many duplicate installation pages in the
wiki.

I merged some and deleted a lot duplicate stuff. 
The work is not finished yet. 

i created a new category in the wiki:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:deleteme

These articles are merged to others and no longer needed.

Is the part about Configuration files still up to date? 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation_hints

Its last edited in 2008 and links to manuals from 2001 and 2003.

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[NTG-context] Tooltips in PDF

2010-12-10 Thread Jonas Stein
Can i create tooltips in interactive PDF Files?

The mouse moves over the word earth and
a description just another planet appears.

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[NTG-context] Redefine symbols for new command \morse{.-..}

2010-12-10 Thread Jonas Stein
i'd like to define a new command

\define[]\short{\dontleavehmode \blackrule[width=0.4em]\ }
\define[]\long {\dontleavehmode \blackrule[width=1.4em]\ }
\define[1] \morse {MAGIC}

\morse{.-..} 
should create a \short for every '.' and \long for every '-'
But this transcription should be only active in the 
morse environment

Is that possible? Who knows the MAGIC?

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[NTG-context] Featurerequest: \contextversion

2010-12-10 Thread Jonas Stein
It would be nice to have a command 

\contextversion
\luaversion
\pdftexversion

that prints the current context version numbers.
That could be a great deal for trouble shooting in the 
fast growing context world.

I could not find a similar command in the wiki.

Is that possible?

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Re: [NTG-context] Featurerequest: \contextversion

2010-12-10 Thread Jonas Stein

 It would be nice to have a command 
 
 \contextversion
 \luaversion
 \pdftexversion
 Is that possible?

 You can use

 - \texenginename to get the name of the engine (e.g. LuaTeX)
 - \texengineversion to get the version number of the engine (e.g. 0.64)
 - \contextversion to get the version number of context (e.g. 2010.12.09 12:11)

nice... the wheel was invented but i did not find the manual ;-)
I suppose context can do everything but it is not verbous about its skills.

was it right to create the Reference page, or should the script
crate the empty reference pages and i fill them later?
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/contextversion


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Re: [NTG-context] margintext writes text out of range

2010-12-07 Thread Jonas Stein
 example here:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/margintext
 
 is is cut of.
 I saw the same in the documentation of the fixme module. [1]
 
 probably because the margin is larger than the backspace
 
 How should this be fixed in the wikipages?
 
 ...and how in own documents?

 \setuplayout[margin=2cm]

 or

 \setuplayout[leftmargin=2cm]

 or

 \setuplayout
   [backspace=4cm,
margin=3cm,
...]

 The important part is to have a leftmargin which is narrower
 than the backspace, you can do this by increasing the backspace
 or decreasing the left margin.

 Wolfgang

Thank you. It works well now.
I have put your knowledge to the wiki too.


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Re: [NTG-context] margintext writes text out of range

2010-12-06 Thread Jonas Stein
 example here:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/margintext

 is is cut of.
 I saw the same in the documentation of the fixme module. [1]

 probably because the margin is larger than the backspace

How should this be fixed in the wikipages?

...and how in own documents?

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Re: [NTG-context] abbreviation with Umlaut fails

2010-12-04 Thread Jonas Stein
 works in mkiv; in mkii names have only letters a-z A-Z, there you shoul 
 use: \abbreviation[KuFuSt]{KüFuSt}{Küstenfunkstelle}

Strange... I thought i use mkiv i will check that in the afternoon again.
is there a \contextversion command in context?

I have a Systemwide old mkiv and a local fresh one 
(at least i hope so ;-)


It would be nice if Numbers would be valid too.
\abbreviation{mp3}{Max and Peter Treehouse}

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Re: [NTG-context] abbreviation with Umlaut fails

2010-12-04 Thread Jonas Stein
 btw, here I consistently use uppercase when command generation is enabled
 \abbreviation[MPTHREE]{mp3}{Max and Peter Treehouse}
 lowercase names can overload core functionality

overload core functionality? What does that mean?

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[NTG-context] margintext writes text out of range

2010-12-04 Thread Jonas Stein
example here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/margintext

is is cut of. 
I saw the same in the documentation of the fixme module. [1]

[1] http://modules.contextgarden.net/fixme fixme.pdf page 3

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Re: [NTG-context] showfont.pdf does not show fonts

2010-12-03 Thread Jonas Stein
 in okular i see no example in the middle of pages 2-8
 on page 9 i can see a formula.
 Is it my fault or is the file broken?

 http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/showfont.pdf

 None of that. The document is simply designed that way. On the bottom
 of page there's source code that is needed to get that particular font
 working and on top it's some text typeset with that font.

Oh of course... now i see that too. Thanks.

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[NTG-context] howto make hyperrefs? (url/mail)

2010-12-03 Thread Jonas Stein
i saw it once in the documentation but i dont find
it again now.

How can i make a mailaddress clickable in the pdf file?

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Re: [NTG-context] howto make hyperrefs? (url/mail)

2010-12-03 Thread Jonas Stein
 \setupinteraction[state=3Dstart]
 \useurl [mymail] [mailto:chair...@example.com] [] [beloved boss]

 \starttext
 Send your spam to the \from[mymail]!
 \stoptext
 Hope this helps, Philipp

Yes, it works fine. 
I added it into the wiki with some words that can be found 
if one uses the search engine.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/url#E-Mail_mailto

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[NTG-context] abbreviation with Umlaut fails

2010-12-03 Thread Jonas Stein
\definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations]
\setupsynonyms[abbreviation][criterium=all]
\abbreviation{KüFuSt}{Küstenfunkstelle}

fails. Is it a bug?
The rest of the Text works fine with Umlauts

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Re: [NTG-context] how to write morsecode?

2010-12-02 Thread Jonas Stein
 You need \dontleavehmode, see also:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#Why_is_there_a_line-break_in_the_output_after_some_commands.3F

That works fine.
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[NTG-context] showfont.pdf does not show fonts

2010-12-02 Thread Jonas Stein
in okular i see no example in the middle of pages 2-8 
on page 9 i can see a formula.
Is it my fault or is the file broken?

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/showfont.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] list of all (even unused) abbreviations

2010-12-01 Thread Jonas Stein
 How can i get a list of _all_ (even unused) abbreviations?
 \placelistofabbreviations[criterium=all]
 
 that does not work here with mkiv
 i get the text
 [criterium=all]
 after the usual list of abbreviations.

 You need the setup command:

 \setupsynonyms[abbreviation][criterium=all]

 Example:

 \definesynonyms[test][tests]

 \setupsynonyms[test][criterium=all]

 \test{one}{1}
 \test{two}{2}

 \starttext

 \one

 \placelistoftests

 \stoptext


This example did not work on my pc and not on
http://live.contextgarden.net/

What could be wrong here?

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[NTG-context] The Wiki about Context on Debian

2010-12-01 Thread Jonas Stein
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation
was very outdated.

I tried to update it. Could someone have a look over it 
if everything is ok now?

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Re: [NTG-context] list of all (even unused) abbreviations

2010-12-01 Thread Jonas Stein
It works now.
I think i had a Problem with the line

\definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations][\infull]
in Description on [1]

Should i delete the [\infull] there? It works fine without it.
I added an example now.

[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/definesynonyms

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[NTG-context] completelistofabbreviations without chapternumber

2010-11-29 Thread Jonas Stein
how can i get the completelistofabbreviations [1] without a
chapternumber?

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[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/definesynonyms

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[NTG-context] list of all (even unused) abbreviations

2010-11-29 Thread Jonas Stein

The Wiki [1] says: 
If you want to put a list of the abbreviations used in your document you can 
type: \placelistofabbreviations

How can i get a list of _all_ (even unused) abbreviations?


[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/definesynonyms


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Re: [NTG-context] completelistofabbreviations without chapternumber

2010-11-29 Thread Jonas Stein
 how can i get the completelistofabbreviations [1] without a
 chapternumber?
 \title{Abbreviations}
 \placelistofabbrviations

ok that was easy.
btw: Thank you for your quick and precise responses on this mailinglist!

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Re: [NTG-context] list of all (even unused) abbreviations

2010-11-29 Thread Jonas Stein
 How can i get a list of _all_ (even unused) abbreviations?
 \placelistofabbreviations[criterium=all]

that does not work here with mkiv
i get the text
[criterium=all]
after the usual list of abbreviations.

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[NTG-context] Phonetic transcription in context

2010-11-26 Thread Jonas Stein
How should i write phonetic transcription in context?
Should i use UTF8, or is there some module i should have a look at?

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Re: [NTG-context] stack words for explanation

2010-11-18 Thread Jonas Stein

 \usemodule[ruby]

 \setupruby[align=center]

 \starttext
 THIS IS \ruby{TITANIC}{MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY} TITANIC TITANIC
 \stoptext

The example does not work here. Will i have to install ruby manual on debian 
testing?

I could not find information about the ruby module 

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[NTG-context] stack words for explanation

2010-11-17 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

i would like to write an FAQ for maritime distress radio.
The spoken words and the variables should be highlighted in 
a nice way. What would you suggest me to do in context?

My first idea a bracket or stacked words like this example:

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
THIS IS TITANIC TITANIC   TITANIC
 \--- ship name 3 times/

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Re: [NTG-context] Gnuplot module: Patching of Gnuplot binary still needed?

2010-11-17 Thread Jonas Stein

 2.) they assumed that I was the only user

That might be true until its implemented and public known.
I suppose thousands will like that function. Students will love it.

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[NTG-context] helping on Wiki Command Reference

2010-11-07 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

would it be useful to write examples in the Wiki Command Reference 
manual, or will there be some automatism that imports that 
information from some other source?

Most keywords have empty descriptions. 
Should users fill them in? Is there a reliable and complete
reference for the commands somewhere?

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[1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Reference/en

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[NTG-context] Wiki: ConTeXt vs. LaTeX and others

2010-11-04 Thread Jonas Stein
for many users it is interesting, to get an overview
how problems are solved in ConTeXt compared to the other
TeX-Flavours.

I like the wikimatrix for Wikis and i thought it could be 
nice to have a simple matrix for TeX.

I started a table in the wiki to collect this knowledge [2], 
but i am not very happy with this table yet.

Perhaps do you have ideas, how to improve it?


[1] http://www.wikimatrix.org/
[2] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/What_is_ConTeXt 
and discussion on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Talk:What_is_ConTeXt

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Re: [NTG-context] letter module, backaddress placement

2010-11-03 Thread Jonas Stein

 Actually it was not the gap that bothered me. You are right, DIN 676 B says 
 45mm. But this seems to be useless as all window envelopes (that I possess) 
 have their window at 50mm. It defeats the purpose of the backaddress field, 
 which is hidden by the DIN layout. Shouldn't they be able to read it in the 
 Post office in case the addressee is wrong?

i measured one envelope DIN Lang 

+Top
|
|
| 50mm
|
|
+
|
| 45mm Window
|
+
|
| 15mm
|
+Bottom

That fits perfect with Koma scrltr2. I have not (yet) tried
it in Context, but i will soon.

Perhaps we fold the paper different?

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[NTG-context] print many cards (pages) on one A4 paper

2010-10-31 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi,

i want to print many (lets say 2 x 4) file cards on one DIN A4 paper.
I played around with the BusinessCard[1] example. Thats close to
what i need, but all cards are cloned there. 

How can i gain the same with 2x4 or 2x5 different cards on one side?

(Sorry for the stupid question its my first context document)
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Re: [NTG-context] print many cards (pages) on one A4 paper

2010-10-31 Thread Jonas Stein

 \setuppapersize [XY][A4]
 \setuppaper [topspace=5mm,backspace=5mm,dx=1mm,dy=1mm,nx=2,ny=6]
 \setuplayout[page] [topspace=5mm,backspace=5mm]
 \setuplayout[page]
 \setuplayout[location=middle]
 \setuparranging [XY]
 \showframe

 \starttext \dorecurse{30}{test \recurselevel \page} \stoptext


Thanks a lot that worked fine!
The dorecurse loop was impressive too.

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