Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-07-20 Thread Sytse Knypstra
On 2005-03-20 and 2005-03-21 there was a thread on this list about using 
the Times Roman font under the CONTEXT distribution for Windows.


I'm running into similar problems (also with the Bookman and Lucida 
bright fonts) and I am curious whether the problem was solved and how.


Sytse Knypstra

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Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-07-20 Thread Hans Hagen

Sytse Knypstra wrote:

On 2005-03-20 and 2005-03-21 there was a thread on this list about 
using the Times Roman font under the CONTEXT distribution for Windows.


I'm running into similar problems (also with the Bookman and Lucida 
bright fonts) and I am curious whether the problem was solved and how.


probably a map file problem (make sure that your local cont-sys.tex file is up-to-date i.e. compare it to cont-sys.rme) 

Hans 



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[NTG-context] How to use Times Roman font for body text.

2005-03-27 Thread R S Ananda Murthy
Hello,
How to use Times Roman font for body text?
Thanks for your help,
Anand
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Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Matthias Weber wrote:
Xue,
 I am not a font expert at all, and we are on different platforms.
If I understand correctly, the font mechanism in TeXExec has been
changing, and different  ConTeXt versions rely on different versions of
pdfeTeX (not only for font reasons, but also for pdf features).
not really, they try to adapt themselves invisible
It should be imperative to use compatible versions of both, even though
I have no clue how to achieve this -- (on the Mac, Gerben's iinstaller
is nicely taking care of this, but I don't know about Windows)
normally this is no problem, i run old and new versions alongside; teh biggest 
change in the latest pdftex is that the locations of the enc/map files have 
changed (not context related, more tds/texmf); context never used the pdftex cfg 
file so no problems should be expected there

In my recent experience, it was not a good idea to use the latest 
(March) ConTeXt beta
without making sure that your remaining TeX installation (including 
fonts) is completely
up-to-date. As I don't know how easy it is to move to some other  
'release' on Windows,
I don't know how feasible this recommendation is. Maybe somebody on 
Windows for whom
times works can give you some information which versions he is using, 
and how to get them.
for the transition to latim modern one indeed needs latin modern fonts (zip on 
our website); making this change has to happen anyway; also, when one uses latin 
modern as well as context pattern files; one can use more font encodings with 
regards to hyphenation

I also wonder why the pdf made at ConTeXtgarden opens in Acrobat with 
font substitution -- the fonts should be
universally available, I believe.
strange, this should not happen with an embedded font
Hans
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[NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread Xue Ruini
Hello everyone,

   I am a newbie to ConTeXt. I have no idea how to use the Times Roman font
   in ConTeXt. (in Latex, just \usepackage{times})

   I found something like this:   
(http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html)
   
   % Times font
   \usetypescript[berry][ec] % or [8r]
   \setupbodyfont[pos]
   
   \starttext
   hellow, world
   \stoptext

   but an error occours:
-
kpathsea: Running mktexmf utmr8t
! I can't find file `utmr8t'.
* ...:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t
  
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t
  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input 
utmr8t' failed.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*12ptrmtf*=utmr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
to be read again 
   \relax 
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier 
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
  \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.2 \setupbodyfont[pos]
   
? 

--

I want to know what I can do with it. Thanks!


Leo
   

   


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Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread Matthias Weber
The following should work with the stable ConTeXt from January:
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos]
\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
\starttext
\input knuth
\bigskip
\stoptext
If not, please post the error message together with version information
of your system.
Matthias
On Mar 18, 2005, at 10:41 PM, Xue Ruini wrote:
Hello everyone,
   I am a newbie to ConTeXt. I have no idea how to use the Times Roman 
font
   in ConTeXt. (in Latex, just \usepackage{times})

   I found something like this:   
(http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html)

   % Times font
   \usetypescript[berry][ec] % or [8r]
   \setupbodyfont[pos]
   \starttext
   hellow, world
   \stoptext
   but an error occours:
-
kpathsea: Running mktexmf utmr8t
! I can't find file `utmr8t'.
* ...:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input utmr8t
Transcript written on mfput.log.
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; 
input utmr8t' failed.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*12ptrmtf*=utmr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file 
not found.
to be read again
   \relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
  \let 
\localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname
  \tryingfontfalse \fi
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
  \fi \iftryingfont 
\fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
  \relax \fi 
\ifskipfontchar...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle 
{\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.2 \setupbodyfont[pos]

?
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I want to know what I can do with it. Thanks!
Leo


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RE: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From Matthias Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
The following should work with the stable ConTeXt from January:

\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos]

\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

\starttext
\input knuth
\bigskip

\stoptext

On my system, using the above, the following happens (why??):


This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2c 7.5.3) (format=cont-en 
2005.3.18)  20 MAR 2005 16:52
entering extended mode
\write18 enabled.
 (c:\CONTEXT\texmf-local/web2c/natural.tcx)
**pdfetex/cont-en times.tex
(./times.tex

snip

(c:\CONTEXT\texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
! Font \*12ptrmtf*=ptmr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
to be read again
   \relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
  \let 
\localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname
  \tryingfontfalse \fi
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
  \fi \iftryingfont 
\fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
  \relax \fi 
\ifskipfontchar...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle 
}\if...
...
l.4 \setupbodyfont[pos]

?


But if I comment the first two lines, it works:


%\usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding]
%\setupbodyfont[pos]

\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

\starttext

\input knuth

\stoptext


Another way:


\definetypeface [times] [rm] [serif] [times] 
[default] [encoding=ec]

\switchtotypeface [times] [12pt,rm]


\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext
===

BTW, what are the lines

\usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos]

for?

Best
Idris


Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread Xue Ruini
Hi Matthias!

Unfortunately, error again:
---

 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : a
output : standard
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
entering extended mode
(./a.tex{/usr/local/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.1.31  fmt: 2005.3.19  int: english  mes: english

language   : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
system (E-TEX) : [line 726] \ifcsname 
)
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-sys.tex)
bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
language   : patterns 2:2-en-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2
 loaded
specials   : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system : a.top loaded
(./a.top)
pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
typescript : [adobekb] [ec] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex
typescript : [serif] [times] [name,ec]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript : [sans] [helvetica] [name,ec]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript : [mono] [courier] [name,ec]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript : [serif,sans,mono] [default] [size]
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
typescript : [map] [ec] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex
pdftex : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-adobe-utopia.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-bit-charter.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-public-antp.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-public-antt.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-bookman.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-courier.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-helvetica.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-palatino.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-times.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-urw-zapfchan.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-youngryu-px.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-youngryu-tx.map
pdftex : needs map file: ec-bh-lucida.map
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))kpathsea: Running mktextfm 
ec-utmr8a
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map typeface abbreviation c- for 
ec-utmr8a.
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update 
/usr/share/texmf/fontname/special.map?
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; 
input ec-utmr8a
This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.4.5)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-utmr8a
! I can't find file `ec-utmr8a'.
* ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-utmr8a
  
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input 

RE: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread ishamid
= Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users 
ntg-context@ntg.nl

Unfortunately, error again:

Yes, an error here as well. Did you try the two other ways I mentioned in my 
other reply:


%\usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding]
%\setupbodyfont[pos] % note the comments

\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

\starttext

\input knuth

\stoptext


Another way:


\definetypeface [times] [rm] [serif] [times] [default] [encoding=ec]

\switchtotypeface [times] [12pt,rm]


\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext
===

If neither of these two work then something is really wrong...

Best
Idris


Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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RE: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread ishamid
Don't know if this is related but

= Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users 
ntg-context@ntg.nl =
Hi Matthias!

Unfortunately, error again:
---

 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

Your TeXecec is very old; I'm using  TeXExec 5.2.4

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.1.31  fmt: 2005.3.19  int: english  mes: english

We are apparently using the same version of ConTeXt, minus TeXexec.

Idris


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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread xueruini
Hi ishamid!


On Sunday, 20 Mar 2005, ishamid wrote:

 = Original Message From mailing list for ConTeXt users 
 ntg-context@ntg.nl
 
 Unfortunately, error again:
 
 Yes, an error here as well. Did you try the two other ways I mentioned in 
my 
 other reply:
 
 
 %\usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding]
 %\setupbodyfont[pos] % note the comments
 
 \usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
 
 \starttext
 
 \input knuth
 
 \stoptext
 
 
 Another way:
 
 
 \definetypeface [times] [rm] [serif] [times] [default] [encoding=ec]
 
 \switchtotypeface [times] [12pt,rm]
 
 
 \starttext
 \input knuth
 \stoptext
 ===
 
 If neither of these two work then something is really wrong...


Yes, neither of them seems to work in my box :(

The error log as follows:


kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-utmr8a
! I can't find file `ec-utmr8a'.
* ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-utmr8a
  
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-utmr8a
  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input 
ec-utmr8a' failed.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*times12ptrmtf*:=ec-utmr8a at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) 
file no
t found.
to be read again 
   \let 
\xxdododefinefont ... {#4}\newfontidentifier \let 
  \localrelativefontsize 
\de...

\fontstrategy ...me \fontclass #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
  \fi \iftryingfont 
\fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
  \relax \fi \iftryingfont 
\...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle 
}\if...
...
l.9 \switchtotypeface [times] [12pt,rm]
?
---

Best
Leo

 
 Best
 Idris
 
 
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 Department of Philosophy
 Colorado State University
 Fort Collins, CO 80523
 
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RE: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread Stefano
Xue,

I tried the following on the latest full Windows ConTeXt download
(mswincontext.zip - 2005-03-16)

\usetypescript[times][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
\starttext
\showfontstrip
\showbodyfont[times]
Roman \bf bold \it italics
\stoptext

... and the \rm font (times) is missing.  The log file complains of missing
characters ...

Missing character: There is no A in font texnansi-utmr8a!

I then tried it on http://live.contextgarden.net/ and the PDF loads, but
Acrobat complains of a missing font (times) and substitutes Helvetica.

I also tried many varied combinations and met with failure on each one.

I realize that either the font files, or the means by which they are called
within a document are in transition, but it would be very helpful if a
sample document(s) were created which demonstrates and uses all the fonts
provided with a complete ConTeXt install.  This would serve several
purposes:

1) it would demonstrate all the available fonts;
2) it would provide an up to date record of the proper and most recommended
way of calling those fonts within a document.
3) it would serve as a test to ensure all the fonts were installed and are
working as intended

Perhaps such a document already exists, but I have not (yet) found it ...

Regards,

Stefano

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 20:31
 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font


 Hi ishamid!

 Yes, neither of them seems to work in my box :(

 The error log as follows:

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Re: [NTG-context] how to use Times Roman font

2005-03-20 Thread Matthias Weber
Xue,
 I am not a font expert at all, and we are on different platforms.
If I understand correctly, the font mechanism in TeXExec has been
changing, and different  ConTeXt versions rely on different versions of
pdfeTeX (not only for font reasons, but also for pdf features).
It should be imperative to use compatible versions of both, even though
I have no clue how to achieve this -- (on the Mac, Gerben's iinstaller
is nicely taking care of this, but I don't know about Windows)
In my recent experience, it was not a good idea to use the latest 
(March) ConTeXt beta
without making sure that your remaining TeX installation (including 
fonts) is completely
up-to-date. As I don't know how easy it is to move to some other  
'release' on Windows,
I don't know how feasible this recommendation is. Maybe somebody on 
Windows for whom
times works can give you some information which versions he is using, 
and how to get them.

I also wonder why the pdf made at ConTeXtgarden opens in Acrobat with 
font substitution -- the fonts should be
universally available, I believe.

Hopefully somebody with more insight will clarify ?
Matthias


On Mar 20, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Xue Ruini wrote:
Hi Matthias!
Unfortunately, error again:
---
 TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : a
output : standard
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
entering extended mode
(./a.tex{/usr/local/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
ConTeXt  ver: 2003.1.31  fmt: 2005.3.19  int: english  mes: english
language   : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
system (E-TEX) : [line 726] \ifcsname
)
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-sys.tex)
bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
language   : patterns 2:2-en-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 
8:2-nl-2
 loaded
specials   : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system : a.top loaded
(./a.top)
pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
typescript : [adobekb] [ec] []
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