Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Meer, Hans van der 
Thanks I did not know the correct designations for the various parts of the 
captionlabel: the prefixconnector and the numberstopper. It is clear now.
Hans van der Meer




On 10 Oct 2016, at 10:40, Wolfgang Schuster 
> wrote:

Wolfgang Schuster
10. Oktober 2016 um 10:39
prefixconnector is the separator between the section number (=prefix) and the 
float number (=figure number), the symbol at the end of the float number is 
called numberstopper. In your example you don’t have a section which can act as 
prefix number no did you change which prefixes should be shown (by default only 
chapters are used as prefix).

The suffix key you use (together with suffixconnector and suffixstopper) is 
used to show the number for subfigures, e.g. figure 3.a.
Here is a working example for the use of the prefixconnector key.

\starttext

\section{This is a section}

\setupcaptions[prefixsegments=section,prefixconnector=-]

\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]}]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=.5\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster 

Wolfgang Schuster 
10. Oktober 2016 um 10:39
prefixconnector is the separator between the section number (=prefix) 
and the float number (=figure number), the symbol at the end of the 
float number is called numberstopper. In your example you don’t have a 
section which can act as prefix number no did you change which 
prefixes should be shown (by default only chapters are used as prefix).


The suffix key you use (together with suffixconnector and 
suffixstopper) is used to show the number for subfigures, e.g. figure 3.a.

Here is a working example for the use of the prefixconnector key.

\starttext

\section{This is a section}

\setupcaptions[prefixsegments=section,prefixconnector=-]

\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]}]
\externalfigure[dummy][width=.5\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster 

Meer, Hans van der 
10. Oktober 2016 um 09:41
Here is the example. \setupcaptions has no effect, however 
\setupfloatcaption does (assuming of course I didn't make a silly 
mistake ;-). Thus it is no problem to get the effect desired, but 
possibly \setupcaptions should be deprecated, or perhaps reimplemented 
to calling \setupfloatcaption. I could have missed the change, but I 
guess a lot of other people might have missed it too. In that case we 
could spare them the trouble of finding out what happened.
prefixconnector is the separator between the section number (=prefix) 
and the float number (=figure number), the symbol at the end of the 
float number is called numberstopper. In your example you don’t have a 
section which can act as prefix number no did you change which prefixes 
should be shown (by default only chapters are used as prefix).


The suffix key you use (together with suffixconnector and suffixstopper) 
is used to show the number for subfigures, e.g. figure 3.a.


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-10 Thread Meer, Hans van der 
Here is the example. \setupcaptions has no effect, however \setupfloatcaption 
does (assuming of course I didn't make a silly mistake ;-). Thus it is no 
problem to get the effect desired, but possibly \setupcaptions should be 
deprecated, or perhaps reimplemented to calling \setupfloatcaption. I could 
have missed the change, but I guess a lot of other people might have missed it 
too. In that case we could spare them the trouble of finding out what happened.

Hans van der Meer

\starttext

\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]
\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]}]
\externalfigure[test.jpg][scale=300]
\stopplacefigure

\setupfloatcaption[suffix=-]
\startplacefigure[title=\tex{setupfloatcaption[suffix=-]}]
\externalfigure[test.jpg][scale=300]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

On 09 Oct 2016, at 21:44, Wolfgang Schuster 
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Meer, Hans van der
9. Oktober 2016 um 14:36
Is this still valid? Using \setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-] doesn't seem to 
make a difference for \startplacefigure.
Do you have a example?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster 

Meer, Hans van der 
9. Oktober 2016 um 14:36
Is this still valid? Using \setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-] doesn't 
seem to make a difference for \startplacefigure.

Do you have a example?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2016-10-09 Thread Meer, Hans van der 
Is this still valid? Using \setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-] doesn't seem to 
make a difference for \startplacefigure.

Hans van der Meer

On 22 Apr 2014, at 08:25, Wolfgang Schuster 
> wrote:


Am 22.04.2014 um 02:57 schrieb Rik Kabel 
>:

Has any progress been made in the past few years implementing modifiable 
separators for captions under MKIV? This was raised as an issue by (at least) 
Mojca Miklavec in December 2010 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg51542.html) and by Andy 
Thomas 18 months later 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg63937.html).
 (Their issues with stopper have been resolved. In MKIV it is numberstopper.)

Here is an MWE demonstrating the problem. It compiles cleanly, but the 
separator remains the default period. With MKII, it generates a figure with a 
hyphen and not a period.
\setupcaptions[separator=-]
\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2014-04-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster 

Am 22.04.2014 um 02:57 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com:

 Has any progress been made in the past few years implementing modifiable 
 separators for captions under MKIV? This was raised as an issue by (at least) 
 Mojca Miklavec in December 2010 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg51542.html) and by Andy 
 Thomas 18 months later 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg63937.html). (Their 
 issues with stopper have been resolved. In MKIV it is numberstopper.)
 
 Here is an MWE demonstrating the problem. It compiles cleanly, but the 
 separator remains the default period. With MKII, it generates a figure with a 
 hyphen and not a period.
 \setupcaptions[separator=-]

\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]

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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV caption separator, revisited

2014-04-22 Thread Rik Kabel 

On 2014-04-22 02:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 22.04.2014 um 02:57 schrieb Rik Kabel cont...@rik.users.panix.com 
mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com:


Has any progress been made in the past few years implementing 
modifiable separators for captions under MKIV? This was raised as an 
issue by (at least) Mojca Miklavec in December 2010 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg51542.html) and 
by Andy Thomas 18 months later 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg63937.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg63937.html). 
(Their issues with stopper have been resolved. In MKIV it is 
numberstopper.)


Here is an MWE demonstrating the problem. It compiles cleanly, but 
the separator remains the default period. With MKII, it generates a 
figure with a hyphen and not a period.


\setupcaptions[separator=-]


\setupcaptions[prefixconnector=-]

Wolfgang



As always, thank you.

I have updated the wiki page for setupcaptions. The updated includes a 
reworded description of the suffix key and new descriptions for the 
stopper/numberstopper and separator/prefixconnector keys.


(There are many other keys that are not documented, and a few at least 
that differ between MKII and MKIV, but I do not have the time at the 
moment to test all of them.)


--
Rik Kabel

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