Re: [NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Hi, finally coming back to this project.
Am 2015-05-11 um 17:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
\definemeasure[Bleed][3mm]
\definemeasure[maxWidth][\dimexpr \paperwidth + \measure{Bleed}\relax]
You don’t have to use \dimexpr because the measure macros already us it.
Ok, thanks
\definefloat[bleedfigure][figure]
\setupfloat[bleedfigure][
outermargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
%leftmargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
%rightmargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
maxwidth=\measure{maxWidth}
]
There is only a “outermargin” key but not “outermargindistance”.
Ok, thanks
With this (perhaps not minimal) example I get nearly what I want, but the
image starts with the paper and is centered (x/y -1,5mm/0mm) where I want it
to start on -3mm/-3mm on a left page, 0mm/-3mm on a right page. I thought my
definitions should do that…
The space before the image isn’t fixed when you use \setuplayout[grid=yes]
because ConTeXt has to change it to ensure the text after the floats stays on
the page.
%\setuplayout[grid=yes] % uncomment to see how the space before the images
changes
Ah, never had thought of that, thanks for the pointer!
But I want my pictures starting at that fixed position AND my (body) text
keeping the grid.
Is that possible?
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Re: [NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Am 06.05.2015 um 07:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm te...@fiee.net:
[…]
\definemeasure[Bleed][3mm]
\definemeasure[maxWidth][\dimexpr \paperwidth + \measure{Bleed}\relax]
\definemeasure[maxHeight][\dimexpr \paperheight + 2\measure{Bleed}\relax]
\definemeasure[topOffset][\dimexpr \topspace + \measure{Bleed}\relax]
You don’t have to use \dimexpr because the measure macros already us it.
[…]
\definefloat[bleedfigure][figure]
\setupfloat[bleedfigure][
outermargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
%leftmargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
%rightmargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
maxwidth=\measure{maxWidth}
]
There is only a “outermargin” key but not “outermargindistance”.
[…]
With this (perhaps not minimal) example I get nearly what I want, but the
image starts with the paper and is centered (x/y -1,5mm/0mm) where I want it
to start on -3mm/-3mm on a left page, 0mm/-3mm on a right page. I thought my
definitions should do that…
The space before the image isn’t fixed when you use \setuplayout[grid=yes]
because ConTeXt has to change it to ensure the text after the floats stays on
the page.
%\setuplayout[grid=yes] % uncomment to see how the space before the images
changes
\showframe
\starttext
\chapter{Test}
\placefigure[top]{Dummy}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Am 2015-05-05 um 02:59 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
\def\bleed{3mm}
\def\maxWidth{\dimexpr(\paperwidth+\bleed)}
Use \definemeasure and \measure to set your own dimensions.
It is also bad style to redefine the \bleed command.
Ok, forgot about that.
Can you make a working minimal example.
\definepapersize[a6][width=105mm,height=148mm]
\definepapersize[a6o][width=115mm,height=158mm]
\setuppapersize[a6][a6o]
\setuplayout[
location=middle,marking=on,
grid=yes,
backspace=12.5mm, width=80mm,
topspace=12.5mm,
header=0mm,footer=10mm,
]
\definemeasure[Bleed][3mm]
\definemeasure[maxWidth][\dimexpr \paperwidth + \measure{Bleed}\relax]
\definemeasure[maxHeight][\dimexpr \paperheight + 2\measure{Bleed}\relax]
\definemeasure[topOffset][\dimexpr \topspace + \measure{Bleed}\relax]
\setupexternalfigures[
maxwidth=\measure{maxWidth},
maxheight=\measure{maxHeight}
]
\setupcaptions[style=\ss\tfx,align=flushleft,number=no,width=\textwidth]
\definefloat[bleedfigure][figure]
\setupfloat[bleedfigure][
outermargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
%leftmargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
%rightmargindistance=-2\measure{Bleed},
maxwidth=\measure{maxWidth}
]
\def\topfig#1#2{%
\placebleedfigure[top]{#1}{%
\offset[topoffset=-\measure{topOffset}]%
{\externalfigure[#2][width=\measure{maxWidth}]}%
}%
}
\starttext
\chapter{Test}
\topfig{Caption}{koe}
\input tufte
\topfig{Caption}{koe}
\input knuth
\topfig{Caption}{koe}
\showlayout
\stoptext
So, one of my mistakes was, I had set
\setupexternalfigures[maxwidth=\paperwidth], that overrides all other float
definitions.
With this (perhaps not minimal) example I get nearly what I want, but the image
starts with the paper and is centered (x/y -1,5mm/0mm) where I want it to start
on -3mm/-3mm on a left page, 0mm/-3mm on a right page. I thought my definitions
should do that...
Greetlings, Hraban
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[NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Hi, I hope BachoTeX was a success! Is it possible to use the float placing mechanisms for pictures that go beyond the type area or even beyond the page? In the book I’m typesetting, most pictures need to fill the whole width of the page (i.e. plus 3mm bleed), but not all cover a full page. I don’t know how to tell \externalfigure or \placefloat a negative offset. Or can I use layers with floats? Of course the text should flow around the pictures. BTW, what does the „object“ key of \setupexternalfigures do? Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Am 04.05.2015 um 12:53 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm te...@fiee.net: Hi, I hope BachoTeX was a success! Is it possible to use the float placing mechanisms for pictures that go beyond the type area or even beyond the page? In the book I’m typesetting, most pictures need to fill the whole width of the page (i.e. plus 3mm bleed), but not all cover a full page. I don’t know how to tell \externalfigure or \placefloat a negative offset. Or can I use layers with floats? Of course the text should flow around the pictures. Does the details manual [1] answer your questions? [1] http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-27.htm http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-27.htm Wolfgang___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Am 2015-05-04 um 17:10 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
Is it possible to use the float placing mechanisms for pictures that go
beyond the type area or even beyond the page?
In the book I’m typesetting, most pictures need to fill the whole width of
the page (i.e. plus 3mm bleed), but not all cover a full page.
I don’t know how to tell \externalfigure or \placefloat a negative offset.
Or can I use layers with floats? Of course the text should flow around the
pictures.
Does the details manual [1] answer your questions?
[1] http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-27.htm
Thank you, that helped, but not enough.
I have now:
\def\bleed{3mm}
\def\maxWidth{\dimexpr(\paperwidth+\bleed)}
\definefloat[bleedfigure][figure]
\setupfloat[bleedfigure]
[
outermargindistance=-\bleed, % does that exist?
leftmargindistance=-\bleed,
rightmargindistance=-\bleed,
default={cutspace,none},
maxwidth=\maxWidth
]
\def\topfig#1#2{\placebleedfigure[top]{#1}{\offset[topoffset=\dimexpr(-\topspace-\bleed)]{\externalfigure[#2][width=\maxWidth]}}}
With that my pictures start at 0,-3mm, but they should start at -3mm,-3mm on a
left page. Their maximum width is only \paperwidth, without bleed.
Where’s my mistake?
Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Bleeding pictures as floats?
Am 04.05.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm te...@fiee.net:
Am 2015-05-04 um 17:10 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:
Is it possible to use the float placing mechanisms for pictures that go
beyond the type area or even beyond the page?
In the book I’m typesetting, most pictures need to fill the whole width of
the page (i.e. plus 3mm bleed), but not all cover a full page.
I don’t know how to tell \externalfigure or \placefloat a negative offset.
Or can I use layers with floats? Of course the text should flow around the
pictures.
Does the details manual [1] answer your questions?
[1] http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-27.htm
Thank you, that helped, but not enough.
I have now:
\def\bleed{3mm}
\def\maxWidth{\dimexpr(\paperwidth+\bleed)}
Use \definemeasure and \measure to set your own dimensions.
It is also bad style to redefine the \bleed command.
\definefloat[bleedfigure][figure]
\setupfloat[bleedfigure]
[
outermargindistance=-\bleed, % does that exist?
leftmargindistance=-\bleed,
rightmargindistance=-\bleed,
default={cutspace,none},
maxwidth=\maxWidth
]
\def\topfig#1#2{\placebleedfigure[top]{#1}{\offset[topoffset=\dimexpr(-\topspace-\bleed)]{\externalfigure[#2][width=\maxWidth]}}}
With that my pictures start at 0,-3mm, but they should start at -3mm,-3mm on
a left page. Their maximum width is only \paperwidth, without bleed.
Where’s my mistake?
Can you make a working minimal example.
Wolfgang
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