Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/20/2018 5:08 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Thomas, Many thanks for your insight. Indeed as Alan and you explain, it is straightforward to define one's own specification. I have not done that yet, but already I could change some of the renderings by modifying a few of the definitions in the

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-20 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Thomas, Many thanks for your insight. Indeed as Alan and you explain, it is straightforward to define one's own specification. I have not done that yet, but already I could change some of the renderings by modifying a few of the definitions in the file publ-imp-default.mkvi in my test file.

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi Otared, > > So my first question is: how can one define one's own « specification », when > modifying built-in specifications is not satisfactory for one's needs, or > does not give the expected result? I work with lots of bibliographies and want my very own styles, and I have indeed fou

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-19 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Alan, and all the Gurus on the list, Many thanks for your help and comments. I am sending again this message which, by mistake, was sent only to Alan, in order to get some help. The manual mkiv-publications.pdf contains indeed many explanations, but probably the informations there are too va

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Rik Kabel
On 2018-02-18 16:05, Rik Kabel wrote: On 2018-02-18 15:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Rik Kabel 18. Februar 2018 um 21:06 On 2018-02-18 14:33, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It does not matter how many fonts support both (LM does, and Libertine). One feature of a

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Rik Kabel
On 2018-02-18 15:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Rik Kabel 18. Februar 2018 um 21:06 On 2018-02-18 14:33, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It does not matter how many fonts support both (LM does, and Libertine). One feature of a BibTeX file is reusability for many do

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Rik Kabel 18. Februar 2018 um 21:06 On 2018-02-18 14:33, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It does not matter how many fonts support both (LM does, and Libertine). One feature of a BibTeX file is reusability for many documents, and when the file is created you do no

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Rik Kabel
On 2018-02-18 14:33, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Rik Kabel 18. Februar 2018 um 20:22 On 2018-02-18 12:07, Alan Braslau wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:58:40 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: Indeed, it is hard to imagine a BibTeX file devoid of such markup. How would on

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:33:37 +0100 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Rik Kabel > > 18. Februar 2018 um 20:22 > > On 2018-02-18 12:07, Alan Braslau wrote: > >> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:58:40 -0500 > >> Rik Kabel wrote: > >> > >>> Indeed, it is hard to imagine a B

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Rik Kabel 18. Februar 2018 um 20:22 On 2018-02-18 12:07, Alan Braslau wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:58:40 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: Indeed, it is hard to imagine a BibTeX file devoid of such markup. How would one indicate the (reverse) emphasis of a quoted b

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Rik Kabel
On 2018-02-18 12:07, Alan Braslau wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:58:40 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: Indeed, it is hard to imagine a BibTeX file devoid of such markup. How would one indicate the (reverse) emphasis of a quoted book title, as in /The Cambridge Companion to /Ulysses, except by indicating

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:23:25 +0100 Hans Hagen wrote: > On 2/18/2018 7:07 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: > > On 2018-02-18 12:23, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > >> On 02/18/2018 06:07 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: > >>> title={The Cambridge Companion to {\em Ulysses}}, > >> > >> Alan, I think this was Rik Kabel's poi

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/18/2018 7:07 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: On 2018-02-18 12:23, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 02/18/2018 06:07 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: title={The Cambridge Companion to {\em Ulysses}}, Alan, I think this was Rik Kabel's point: for some scenarios, you cannot avoid to have some sort of context comma

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Rik Kabel
On 2018-02-18 12:23, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 02/18/2018 06:07 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: title={The Cambridge Companion to {\em Ulysses}}, Alan, I think this was Rik Kabel's point: for some scenarios, you cannot avoid to have some sort of context commands in your bibtex file. For a while, I

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 02/18/2018 06:07 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: title={The Cambridge Companion to {\em Ulysses}}, Alan, I think this was Rik Kabel's point: for some scenarios, you cannot avoid to have some sort of context commands in your bibtex file. For a while, I also used biblatex from time to time, so I tri

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:58:40 -0500 Rik Kabel wrote: > Indeed, it is hard to imagine a BibTeX file devoid of such markup. > How would one indicate the (reverse) emphasis of a quoted book title, > as in /The Cambridge Companion to /Ulysses, except by indicating the > emphasis of "Ulysses" and letti

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Rik Kabel
On 2018-02-17 14:29, Alan Braslau wrote: First of all, don't put any such formatting in the BibTeX file: that is a LaTeX-style hack, and we have designed the ConTeXt system to avoid any such need. The dataset should contain only data, and hacks should be avoided. There is some limitation to this

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/17/2018 8:29 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: HANS: there is one specific comment for you, below. well, up to you to decide if it's auser overload (at some point we need to stop and users should copy/patch setups ... that's the idea concerning a title with commands ... no way around math in titl

Re: [NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-17 Thread Alan Braslau
HANS: there is one specific comment for you, below. On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:27:03 +0100 Otared Kavian wrote: > Dear all, > > I am in the process of learning how to use the bibliography mechanism > in mkiv, and I would lik eto understand the meanings of the various > parameters in the command: >

[NTG-context] Learning how to use \setupbtxrendering

2018-02-17 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear all, I am in the process of learning how to use the bibliography mechanism in mkiv, and I would lik eto understand the meanings of the various parameters in the command: \setupbtxrendering [...,1,...] [..,..2=..,..] 1 NAME 2 textstate = start stop pagestate = start stop s