Re: [NTG-context] margin notes (was: lmtx update)
Hi Hraban,
Thanks for the hint… indeed I did see that \ColWidth command but didn't think
about its definition… Sorry!
Now with \ColWidth defined, your code works fine and it has the advantage that
the text of the sidenote begins in the margin at the level where the \footnote
command appears. However, it cannot control the overflow of a sidenote to the
next page, whereas the code given by Hans can do that. I admit that this does
not happen very often since a well designed text should not have too many long
sidenotes…
In case other users would like to use your code, I put the whole example below.
Best regards: Otared
%%% sidenotes, or footnotes in the margin
%%% example given by Hraban:
%%% here the tweaking of the width of the sidenote is turned off
%%% remove the comment where there is \ColWidth
%%% in order to adapt to your layout
\showframe
\setuplayout
[cutspace=7cm,
width=middle,
margin=5cm,
margindistance=7mm]
%\def\ColWidth{57mm}
\setupmargindata[inmargin]
[location=right,
stack=continue,
align=flushright,
]
\setupmargindata[inouter]
[location=right,
stack=continue,
align=flushright,
]
\def\FNVOffset{0} % Negative vertical offset of footnotes in lines
% Manual tweaking was necessary for a while, when stacking didn’t work reliably.
\def\MarginNote#1{%
\inmargin[
voffset=\dimexpr-\FNVOffset\lineheight\relax,
% width=\ColWidth,
align=flushleft,
]{%
\inframed[
% width=\ColWidth,
align=right,
frame=off,
offset=overlay,
strut=yes,
]{#1}%
}%
}
\define\PlaceFootnote{%
\inmargin[
voffset=\dimexpr-\FNVOffset\lineheight\relax,
% width=\ColWidth,
]{%
\vtop{\placelocalnotes[footnote][before=,after=]}}%
}
\def\FNo#1{{#1~}}
% I never managed to get number and text in consecutive lines without indented
text
% or at least a constant whitespace after the number.
\setupnote[footnote]
[location=text,
bodyfont=,
indenting=no,
before={\noindentation},
next=\PlaceFootnote,
]
\setupnotation[footnote]
[way=bychapter,
align=flushleft,
indenting=no,
location=serried,
alternative=serried,
width=broad,
numbercommand=\FNo,
] % footnote text
\setuptexttexts[margin][]
[%
{\framed[
align={flushright,bottom},
frame=off,
height=\textheight,
% width=\ColWidth,
]{%
\strut\vfill\placenotes[footnote]}}%
]
\starttext
\dorecurse{6}{\input ward\expanded{\footnote{This is a footnote
\recurselevel}} }
test
\dorecurse{10}{
test \footnote{\input ward }\input tufte.tex \par
test \footnote{This is a note about Ward, who says: \par \input
ward.tex} \input ward.tex \par
test \footnote{This is a note about Donald Knuth.} \input knuth.tex \par
}
This is a last note. \footnote{This last note is here to see what happens in
the next page\dots\par \input knuth.tex}
\par
\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth.tex }
\stoptext
> On 1 Aug 2020, at 23:01, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>
>
>> Am 01.08.2020 um 22:36 schrieb Otared Kavian :
>>
>> Hi Hraban,
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to send your code for sidenotes.
>> Unfortunately when I add
>>
>> \starttext
>> test\footnote{A footnote in the margin.}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> to your code, I get an error and unfortunately with recent versions of LMTX
>> the error message
>> ! Undefined control sequence
>> is not helpful to find the error… (LMTX considers \footnote as an undefined
>> control sequence…).
>>
>
> Of course it’s not \footnote that is undefined but something else from my
> code – I didn’t take the time to strip it of all the references to other
> setups in the same environment, probably \ColWidth that was just a shortcut
> for the column width:
> \def\ColWidth{57mm}
>
> Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes (was: lmtx update)
> Am 01.08.2020 um 22:36 schrieb Otared Kavian :
>
> Hi Hraban,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to send your code for sidenotes.
> Unfortunately when I add
>
> \starttext
> test\footnote{A footnote in the margin.}
> \stoptext
>
> to your code, I get an error and unfortunately with recent versions of LMTX
> the error message
> ! Undefined control sequence
> is not helpful to find the error… (LMTX considers \footnote as an undefined
> control sequence…).
>
Of course it’s not \footnote that is undefined but something else from my code
– I didn’t take the time to strip it of all the references to other setups in
the same environment, probably \ColWidth that was just a shortcut for the
column width:
\def\ColWidth{57mm}
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes (was: lmtx update)
Hi Hraban,
Thank you for taking the time to send your code for sidenotes.
Unfortunately when I add
\starttext
test\footnote{A footnote in the margin.}
\stoptext
to your code, I get an error and unfortunately with recent versions of LMTX the
error message
! Undefined control sequence
is not helpful to find the error… (LMTX considers \footnote as an undefined
control sequence…).
Best regards: Otared
> On 1 Aug 2020, at 19:19, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>
>
>
>> Am 01.08.2020 um 18:57 schrieb Otared Kavian :
>>
>> Hi Hraban,
>>
>> Thank you for reminding me of the solution cooked up by Wolfgang for you a
>> few years ago. That solution works fine when the notes are short enough, but
>> in some cases the notes in the margin bump into each other (indeed it is not
>> a good habit to have long notes, but in some cases one cannot avoid them).
>
> One essential bit is missing in the wiki example:
>
> \setupmargindata[inmargin][
> location=right,
> stack=continue, % !!
> align=flushright,
> ]
>
> The code I’m actually using for our German literature magazine “Kritische
> Ausgabe” is much more elaborated, but also cluttered with obsolete stuff – I
> need to sort that out some time...
> (I only deleted some styling.)
>
> %%% Footnotes / Marginals
>
> \setupmargindata[inmargin][
> location=right,
> stack=continue,
> align=flushright,
> ]
> \setupmargindata[inouter][
> location=right,
> stack=continue,
> align=flushright,
> ]
>
> \def\FNVOffset{0} % Negative vertical offset of footnotes in lines
> % Manual tweaking was necessary for a while, when stacking didn’t work
> reliably.
>
> \def\MarginNote#1{%
> \inmargin[
> voffset=\dimexpr-\FNVOffset\lineheight\relax,
> width=\ColWidth,
> align=flushleft,
> ]{%
> \inframed[
>width=\ColWidth,
>align=right,
>frame=off,
>offset=overlay,
>strut=yes,
>]{#1}%
> }%
> }
>
> \define\PlaceFootnote{%
> \inmargin[
> voffset=\dimexpr-\FNVOffset\lineheight\relax,
> width=\ColWidth,
> ]{%
> \vtop{\placelocalnotes[footnote][before=,after=]}}%
> }
>
> \def\FNo#1{{#1~}}
> % I never managed to get number and text in consecutive lines without
> indented text
> % or at least a constant whitespace after the number.
>
> \setupnote[footnote][
> location=text,
> bodyfont=,
> indenting=no,
> before={\noindentation},
> next=\PlaceFootnote,
> ]
>
> \setupnotation[footnote][
> way=bychapter,
> align=flushleft,
> indenting=no,
> location=serried,
> alternative=serried,
> width=broad,
> numbercommand=\FNo,
> ] % footnote text
>
> \setuptexttexts[margin][][%
> {\framed[
>align={flushright,bottom},
>frame=off,
>height=\textheight,
>width=\ColWidth,
> ]{%
>\strut\vfill\placenotes[footnote]}}%
> ]
>
>
> Best, Hraban
>
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes (was: lmtx update)
> Am 01.08.2020 um 18:57 schrieb Otared Kavian :
>
> Hi Hraban,
>
> Thank you for reminding me of the solution cooked up by Wolfgang for you a
> few years ago. That solution works fine when the notes are short enough, but
> in some cases the notes in the margin bump into each other (indeed it is not
> a good habit to have long notes, but in some cases one cannot avoid them).
One essential bit is missing in the wiki example:
\setupmargindata[inmargin][
location=right,
stack=continue, % !!
align=flushright,
]
The code I’m actually using for our German literature magazine “Kritische
Ausgabe” is much more elaborated, but also cluttered with obsolete stuff – I
need to sort that out some time...
(I only deleted some styling.)
%%% Footnotes / Marginals
\setupmargindata[inmargin][
location=right,
stack=continue,
align=flushright,
]
\setupmargindata[inouter][
location=right,
stack=continue,
align=flushright,
]
\def\FNVOffset{0} % Negative vertical offset of footnotes in lines
% Manual tweaking was necessary for a while, when stacking didn’t work reliably.
\def\MarginNote#1{%
\inmargin[
voffset=\dimexpr-\FNVOffset\lineheight\relax,
width=\ColWidth,
align=flushleft,
]{%
\inframed[
width=\ColWidth,
align=right,
frame=off,
offset=overlay,
strut=yes,
]{#1}%
}%
}
\define\PlaceFootnote{%
\inmargin[
voffset=\dimexpr-\FNVOffset\lineheight\relax,
width=\ColWidth,
]{%
\vtop{\placelocalnotes[footnote][before=,after=]}}%
}
\def\FNo#1{{#1~}}
% I never managed to get number and text in consecutive lines without indented
text
% or at least a constant whitespace after the number.
\setupnote[footnote][
location=text,
bodyfont=,
indenting=no,
before={\noindentation},
next=\PlaceFootnote,
]
\setupnotation[footnote][
way=bychapter,
align=flushleft,
indenting=no,
location=serried,
alternative=serried,
width=broad,
numbercommand=\FNo,
] % footnote text
\setuptexttexts[margin][][%
{\framed[
align={flushright,bottom},
frame=off,
height=\textheight,
width=\ColWidth,
]{%
\strut\vfill\placenotes[footnote]}}%
]
Best, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Margin notes
Am 04.03.2014 um 01:31 schrieb S Barmeier severinbarme...@googlemail.com:
I am trying to compile a 2-year-old mkiv document with the latest beta
and am getting an error on the line
\inleft[style=bold,stack=continue]
Two years ago, stacking of margin notes was still experimental, so I'm
guessing something has changed since then. What is the correct way these
days to typeset margin notes?
You have to make a minimal example because I can’t see a problem with \inleft.
\starttext
Text\inleft[style=bold,stack=continue]{Note 1}
text\inleft[style=bold,stack=continue]{Note 2} text
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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I am trying to compile a 2-year-old mkiv document with the latest beta and am getting an error on the line \inleft[style=bold,stack=continue] Two years ago, stacking of margin notes was still experimental, so I'm guessing something has changed since then. What is the correct way these days to typeset margin notes? Thank you, Severin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] margin notes in MKIV (doublesided pages)
Thanks, Devendra. That is very helpful.
\*setupmargindata*[margintext][location=outer,align=inner]
gives me exactly the placement that I need.
Best, Alan
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Devendra Ghate devendra.gh...@gmail.comwrote:
On 02/09/2013 06:51 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
I need margin notes in a doublesided page environment in MKIV.
The following:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupinmargin[location=both]
\starttext
\inmargin{n1}\input knuth\inmargin{note 1}
\page
\inmargin{n2}\input knuth\inmargin{note 2}
\page
\inmargin{n3}\input knuth\inmargin{note 4}
\stoptext
works in MKII. In MKIV, however, all the margin notes are on the left.
So how can I get this right in MKIV?
Alan
Probably, \setupmargin[location=outer] should do the trick (*not tested*).
I have been using
\setupmargintext[margintext][location=outer]
\margintext{Note 1}
without a problem.
Regards,
Devendra
PS: sidenotes style [http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sidenotes_style] by
Andy thomas uses this setup.
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[NTG-context] margin notes in MKIV (doublesided pages)
I need margin notes in a doublesided page environment in MKIV.
The following:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupinmargin[location=both]
\starttext
\inmargin{n1}\input knuth\inmargin{note 1}
\page
\inmargin{n2}\input knuth\inmargin{note 2}
\page
\inmargin{n3}\input knuth\inmargin{note 4}
\stoptext
works in MKII. In MKIV, however, all the margin notes are on the left. So
how can I get this right in MKIV?
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes in MKIV (doublesided pages)
On 02/09/2013 06:51 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
I need margin notes in a doublesided page environment in MKIV.
The following:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupinmargin[location=both]
\starttext
\inmargin{n1}\input knuth\inmargin{note 1}
\page
\inmargin{n2}\input knuth\inmargin{note 2}
\page
\inmargin{n3}\input knuth\inmargin{note 4}
\stoptext
works in MKII. In MKIV, however, all the margin notes are on the left.
So how can I get this right in MKIV?
Alan
Probably, \setupmargin[location=outer] should do the trick (*not tested*).
I have been using
\setupmargintext[margintext][location=outer]
\margintext{Note 1}
without a problem.
Regards,
Devendra
PS: sidenotes style [http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sidenotes_style] by
Andy thomas uses this setup.
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes at page breaks
On 13-11-2011 12:12, Stefan Müller wrote: It still looks the same. Does the stacking only influence the behaviour of (the breaking between) multiple margin notes? each margin data blob is seen as a whole .. no breaking inside that .. depending on the content (only text) it should be possible to break notes but it's not provided now Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] margin notes at page breaks
On 14.11.2011 09:32, Hans Hagen wrote: On 13-11-2011 12:12, Stefan Müller wrote: It still looks the same. Does the stacking only influence the behaviour of (the breaking between) multiple margin notes? I was not very clear here, I think. each margin data blob is seen as a whole .. no breaking inside that .. depending on the content (only text) it should be possible to break notes but it's not provided now Thanks, okay, I understand that. But I don't understand why in your first example the three margin notes go to the next page, together with the paragraph while in my example the single note does not go to the next page (the complete note, I don't want the margin note itself to break). I would choose some extra blank lines at the end of the page over a margin note that is in the bottom margin... Kind regards, Stefan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] margin notes at page breaks
Hi Hans,
sorry to bother you again with this. I just had a look again on this
issue with 2012 12:34 MkIV. In the first part of your example, I
see the three stacked footnotes and the first lines of the paragraph
moved to the next page. In your second example I get the three notes
stacked on the first page, one being in the bottom margin, and the
paragraph properly wrapped, with two lines on the first page. This
seems to be correct.
Unfortunately I don't understand how this should help me with my (now
updated) previous example:
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth} \blank[2*line]
\inmargin[stack=yes]{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
\input tufte
\stoptext
It still looks the same. Does the stacking only influence the behaviour
of (the breaking between) multiple margin notes?
Thank you for looking into this. Best regards,
Stefan
On 02.11.2011 17:34, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 31-10-2011 13:57, Stefan Müller wrote:
Hi list!
In my document I have some margin notes that appear right before a page
break and so end up in the bottom margin, see the following example.
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}
\blank[2*line]
\inmargin{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
%\margintext{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Is it possible to automatically move the margin note in those cases to
the next page? I had a look at the manual where the issue is addressed.
As I understood it \margintext{...} should be able to handle this, but
it did not change anything in my example. In the garden I found
\setupinmargin[stack=yes] but this didn't help either.
This seems not to hard, but I can't find a way to fix it...
it's not supported in the current code but the next beta will have :
starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth} \blank[2*line]
\dorecurse{3}{\inmargin[stack=yes]{note}} \input tufte
\page
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth} \blank[2*line]
\dorecurse{3}{\inmargin[stack=yes,bottomspace=10cm]{note}} \input tufte
\stoptext
with bottomspace one can set the threshold
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes at page breaks
On 31-10-2011 13:57, Stefan Müller wrote:
Hi list!
In my document I have some margin notes that appear right before a page
break and so end up in the bottom margin, see the following example.
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}
\blank[2*line]
\inmargin{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
%\margintext{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Is it possible to automatically move the margin note in those cases to
the next page? I had a look at the manual where the issue is addressed.
As I understood it \margintext{...} should be able to handle this, but
it did not change anything in my example. In the garden I found
\setupinmargin[stack=yes] but this didn't help either.
This seems not to hard, but I can't find a way to fix it...
it's not supported in the current code but the next beta will have :
starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth} \blank[2*line]
\dorecurse{3}{\inmargin[stack=yes]{note}} \input tufte
\page
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth} \blank[2*line]
\dorecurse{3}{\inmargin[stack=yes,bottomspace=10cm]{note}} \input tufte
\stoptext
with bottomspace one can set the threshold
Hans
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[NTG-context] margin notes at page breaks
Hi list!
In my document I have some margin notes that appear right before a page
break and so end up in the bottom margin, see the following example.
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}
\blank[2*line]
\inmargin{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
%\margintext{This note ends up in the bottom margin}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Is it possible to automatically move the margin note in those cases to
the next page? I had a look at the manual where the issue is addressed.
As I understood it \margintext{...} should be able to handle this,
but it did not change anything in my example. In the garden I found
\setupinmargin[stack=yes] but this didn't help either.
This seems not to hard, but I can't find a way to fix it...
Thanks in advance for any hints!
Stefan
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[NTG-context] margin notes
It seems that margin notes when called from inside
\startcombination..\stopcombination do not reach the margin of the paper.
Instead they use a margin inside the combination.
Is that as intended or unavoidable?
It was my objective to have them at the edge of the paper.
See minimal example below.
% Testing margin notes from inside combinations.
% Margin notes do not leave the combinations box.
\setuppapersize[A6][A6]
\starttext
\setupcombinations[location=middle]
test\crlf
\startcombination[2*1]
{abcdefg\inright{m1}}{l1}
{abcdefg\inright{m2}}{l2}
\stopcombination
\crlf
\stoptext
combinations.pdf
Description: combinations.pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes
On 11-10-2011 10:03, Meer, H. van der wrote:
It seems that margin notes when called from inside
\startcombination..\stopcombination do not reach the margin of the paper.
Instead they use a margin inside the combination.
Is that as intended or unavoidable?
It was my objective to have them at the edge of the paper.
See minimal example below.
% Testing margin notes from inside combinations.
% Margin notes do not leave the combinations box.
\setuppapersize[A6][A6]
\starttext
\setupcombinations[location=middle]
test\crlf
\startcombination[2*1]
{abcdefg\inright{m1}}{l1}
{abcdefg\inright{m2}}{l2}
\stopcombination
\crlf
\stoptext
quite tricky, such notes in an alignment
the next beta will have an experimental fix
\startlinecorrection
\startcombination[2*2]
{abcdefg\inleft[scope=global,stack=yes]{TEST 7}hijklm} {test 7}
{abcdefg\inleft[scope=global,stack=yes]{TEST 8}hijklm} {test 8}
\stopcombination
\stoplinecorrection
seems to work
Hans
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[NTG-context] margin notes from inside combination
It seems that margin notes when called from inside
\startcombination..\stopcombination do not reach the margin of the paper.
Instead they use a margin inside the combination.
Is that as intended or unavoidable?
It was my objective to have them at the edge of the paper.
See minimal example below.
% Testing margin notes from inside combinations.
% Margin notes do not leave the combinations box.
\setuppapersize[A6][A6]
\starttext
\setupcombinations[location=middle]
test\crlf
\startcombination[2*1]
{abcdefg\inright{m1}}{l1}
{abcdefg\inright{m2}}{l2}
\stopcombination
\crlf
\stoptext
combinations.pdf
Description: combinations.pdf
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[NTG-context] margin notes
Hi!
I try to use \inmargin{some text} in context Mk IV, and the resulting margin
notes overlap. Is there any way to emulate LaTeX's marginpars (they're
considered floats, hence can be moved to avoid overlaps)?
Minimal example:
\starttext
\inmargin{first}
\inmargin{second}
\stoptext
--
Yury G. Kudryashov
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes
Am 28.05.10 19:02, schrieb Yury G. Kudryashov:
Hi!
I try to use \inmargin{some text} in context Mk IV, and the resulting margin
notes overlap. Is there any way to emulate LaTeX's marginpars (they're
considered floats, hence can be moved to avoid overlaps)?
Minimal example:
\starttext
\inmargin{first}
\inmargin{second}
\stoptext
\setupinmargin[stack=yes]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] margin notes
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 28.05.10 19:02, schrieb Yury G. Kudryashov:
Hi!
I try to use \inmargin{some text} in context Mk IV, and the resulting
margin notes overlap. Is there any way to emulate LaTeX's marginpars
(they're considered floats, hence can be moved to avoid overlaps)?
\setupinmargin[stack=yes]
Thanks, it works!
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