Re: [NTG-context] Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt

2015-10-23 Thread Rik

On 2015-10-23 16:47, josephcan...@gmail.com wrote:
At the moment, I use “\,” between word and question marks. Also “~” 
between word and “:”. I guess the \definecharacterspacing is more 
flexible and transparent from text input point of view (only write 
normal space). IIRC both \, and ~ also avoids line breaking at their 
location. Is there a way to specify this too please ?


The characterspacing commands can take care of it. The following example 
demonstrates this (I used the value 2 just to make it clear what is 
happening). It appears that alternative=1 inhibits breaks, while 
alternative=0 (or leaving alternative= out completely) allows breaks. I 
have not seen documentation; what I know about it comes from tests like 
the example below.


   \definecharacterspacing[test]
   \setupcharacterspacing[test]["003A][left=2,alternative=1] % :
   \setupcharacterspacing[test]["003B][left=2,alternative=0] % ;
   \setupcharacterspacing[test]["00BF][right=2,alternative=0] % ¿
   \starttext
   \hsize4cm
   x:\par
   x :\par
   ¿x;\par
   ¿ x ;\par
   \setcharacterspacing[test]
   x:\par
   x :\par
   ¿x;\par
   ¿ x ;\par
   \stoptext

(Many ConTeXt commands have a \defineABC[somename] and a 
\setupABC[somename][options=…]. This can often, as is the case with 
characterspacing, be shortened into one command, 
\defineABC[somename][options=…], but I think not always.)


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Rik


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Re: [NTG-context] Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt

2015-10-23 Thread josephcanedo
At the moment, I use “\,” between word and question marks. Also “~” between 
word and “:”. I guess the \definecharacterspacing is more flexible and 
transparent from text input point of view (only write normal space). IIRC both 
\, and ~ also avoids line breaking at their location. Is there a way to specify 
this too please ?




Thanks a lot for your valuable help,


Joseph




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On 2015-10-23 15:19, josephcan...@gmail.com wrote:




Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing command please 
? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki.

The best description I have seen of it is in Wolfgang’s message on the mailing 
list at http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg77942.html (or 
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/081569.html if you prefer 
pipermail navigation). Basically, define the spacings you want with 
\definecharacterspacing[myspacing][…][…=…,…=…] and put them in play with 
\setcharacterspacing[myspacing]. Do it within a group to have it apply only 
within that group, or apply it globally.

Sorry, no help here for the installation issue.

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Re: [NTG-context] Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt

2015-10-23 Thread Rik Kabel

On 2015-10-23 15:19, josephcan...@gmail.com wrote:


Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing 
command please ? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki.


The best description I have seen of it is in Wolfgang’s message on the 
mailing list at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context%40ntg.nl/msg77942.html (or 
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/081569.html if you prefer 
pipermail navigation). Basically, define the spacings you want with 
\definecharacterspacing[myspacing][…][…=…,…=…] and put them in play with 
\setcharacterspacing[myspacing]. Do it within a group to have it apply 
only within that group, or apply it globally.


Sorry, no help here for the installation issue.

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Re: [NTG-context] Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt

2015-10-23 Thread josephcanedo
Thanks Rik,


I’ll install standalone ConTeXt along TexLive then.

Is there any place I could find docs on \definecharacterspacing command please 
? Could not find any occurrence on the Wiki.

Many thanks


Best regards


Joseph






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On 2015-10-23 03:44, josephcan...@gmail.com wrote:



Hello all,




Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the font.

Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples.




http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context




I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1




Many thanks,




Best regards




Joseph Canedo




First, some small changes to your example. Remove the enableregime directive; 
ConTeXt MKIV, which you appear to be using, does not use this. It is from 
ConTeXt MKII. Next, modify the definefontfeature and definefontfamily commands 
as shown. (The default features for the font are in the file 
type-imp-ebgaramond.mkiv.) That should be it to get started.

\language[fr] % french hyphenation

\definefontfeature[myfeatures][ss02=yes,cv01=yes,cv03=yes,ss05=yes,cv91=yes]

\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features={default,myfeatures}]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 8pt]

\starttext

session
univers
Que
Quelconque
Joseph
¶

\stoptext


TL15 has problems with EBGaramond. The best you will get is:

 

With a more recent standalone version, you will get:

 

If you are setting older texts, you may also want to take advantage of 
ConTeXt’s ability to automatically provide space before large punctuation 
characters using the definecharacterspacing command.

One other note. Character variant 01 (cv01) is a very dull sword. The rules for 
the use of long-ſ are much too complex for it to handle. For a good overview of 
the issues, see Andrew West’s article in the TUGboat at 
https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100west.pdf. In my opinion you are better 
off learning to insert it as needed in the text.

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Re: [NTG-context] Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt

2015-10-23 Thread Rik Kabel

On 2015-10-23 03:44, josephcan...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all,

Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the 
font.

Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples.

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context

I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1

Many thanks,

Best regards

Joseph Canedo


First, some small changes to your example. Remove the enableregime 
directive; ConTeXt MKIV, which you appear to be using, does not use 
this. It is from ConTeXt MKII. Next, modify the definefontfeature and 
definefontfamily commands as shown. (The default features for the font 
are in the file type-imp-ebgaramond.mkiv.) That should be it to get started.


   \language[fr] % french hyphenation

   
*\definefontfeature[myfeatures][ss02=yes,cv01=yes,cv03=yes,ss05=yes,cv91=yes]*

   
*\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features={default,myfeatures}]**
   *\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 8pt]*
   *
   \starttext

   session
   univers
   Que
   Quelconque
   Joseph
   ¶

   \stoptext


TL15 has problems with EBGaramond. The best you will get is:


With a more recent standalone version, you will get:


If you are setting older texts, you may also want to take advantage of 
ConTeXt’s ability to automatically provide space before large 
punctuation characters using the definecharacterspacing command.


One other note. Character variant 01 (cv01) is a very dull sword. The 
rules for the use of long-ſ are much too complex for it to handle. For a 
good overview of the issues, see Andrew West’s article in the TUGboat at 
https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100west.pdf. In my opinion you are 
better off learning to insert it as needed in the text.


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[NTG-context] Obtaining features from EBGaramond font in ConTeXt

2015-10-23 Thread josephcanedo
Hello all,


Wondered if you could figure out what I did wrong with specifying the font.

Asked question on TexExchange.org already, with samples.


http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/274471/obtaining-features-from-ebgaramond-font-in-context


I use texlive 2015 on Windows 8.1


Many thanks,


Best regards


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