Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
On 4/29/2013 12:42 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: Hi Marco, All, agreed you can avoid the spaces by putting the usetypescript in the "preamble", but should not the loading of a typescript not bleed any spaces! it's not the typescript that has the space but the file ... a typescript file can have more than typescripts like definitions, documentation, etc. In the past, one *always* had to load a typescript file explicitly but at some point - out of convenience - the \setupbodyfont mechanism has been extended to automatically load a typescriptfile with the same name as the requested bodyfont. So, it's the price paid for convenience. And, in most cases a bodyfont is not initialized in a \hbox. regards Keith. Am 28.04.2013 um 22:03 schrieb Marco Patzer : On 2013–04–28 Keith J. Schultz wrote: can someone explain to me why loading a file/typescript is producing spaces The typescripts themselves are full of spaces and new lines. And you really want those spaces for readability. TeX usually squashes multiple spaces into one, but spaces still matter in many circumstances, e.g. within an \hbox. If the code that does load the file/s produced spaces for debugging purposes that is fine, but should not they actually going somewhere else? There's no code that produces spaces. The spaces are in the typescript file. Personally, I find it a bug if loading fonts or other files produces extraneous characters! This is usually not a problem, since typescripts are loaded in the setup area. Even when loaded within the text area the spaces don't cause problems. Loading an entire file within a box, like I did in the example, is an unusual edge-case and there's a simple workaround, see Wolfgangs answer. Except if there's an easy fix for that, I'm personally fine knowing where the spaces are coming from and how to prevent them, which I do now. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
Hi Marco, All, agreed you can avoid the spaces by putting the usetypescript in the "preamble", but should not the loading of a typescript not bleed any spaces! regards Keith. Am 28.04.2013 um 22:03 schrieb Marco Patzer : > On 2013–04–28 Keith J. Schultz wrote: > >> can someone explain to me why loading a file/typescript is >> producing spaces > > The typescripts themselves are full of spaces and new lines. And you > really want those spaces for readability. TeX usually squashes > multiple spaces into one, but spaces still matter in many > circumstances, e.g. within an \hbox. > >> If the code that does load the file/s produced spaces for >> debugging purposes that is fine, but should not they actually >> going somewhere else? > > There's no code that produces spaces. The spaces are in the > typescript file. > >> Personally, I find it a bug if loading fonts or other files >> produces extraneous characters! > > This is usually not a problem, since typescripts are loaded in the > setup area. Even when loaded within the text area the spaces don't > cause problems. Loading an entire file within a box, like I did in > the example, is an unusual edge-case and there's a simple > workaround, see Wolfgangs answer. > > Except if there's an easy fix for that, I'm personally fine knowing > where the spaces are coming from and how to prevent them, which I do > now. > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
On 4/28/2013 10:03 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:
This is usually not a problem, since typescripts are loaded in the
setup area. Even when loaded within the text area the spaces don't
cause problems. Loading an entire file within a box, like I did in
the example, is an unusual edge-case and there's a simple
workaround, see Wolfgangs answer.
normally it only matters in hmode
when you \usetypescriptfile[iwona] outside the macro the definitions get
preloaded in memory ; in fact, each typescript eventually gets cached
typescripts are loaded under a newline restricted regime but that
doesn't always prevent spaces creeping in (like those before comments)
\definetextext
[foo]
[#1]#2{\switchtobodyfont[#1]\removeunwantedspaces#2}
and moving all to lua is no option now (although ... in
antykwapoltawskiego.lfg one can see how such a thing can be done)
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Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
On 2013–04–28 Keith J. Schultz wrote: > can someone explain to me why loading a file/typescript is > producing spaces The typescripts themselves are full of spaces and new lines. And you really want those spaces for readability. TeX usually squashes multiple spaces into one, but spaces still matter in many circumstances, e.g. within an \hbox. > If the code that does load the file/s produced spaces for > debugging purposes that is fine, but should not they actually > going somewhere else? There's no code that produces spaces. The spaces are in the typescript file. > Personally, I find it a bug if loading fonts or other files > produces extraneous characters! This is usually not a problem, since typescripts are loaded in the setup area. Even when loaded within the text area the spaces don't cause problems. Loading an entire file within a box, like I did in the example, is an unusual edge-case and there's a simple workaround, see Wolfgangs answer. Except if there's an easy fix for that, I'm personally fine knowing where the spaces are coming from and how to prevent them, which I do now. Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
Am 28.04.2013 um 20:37 schrieb Marco Patzer :
> On 2013–04–28 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Am 28.04.2013 um 19:56 schrieb Marco Patzer :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> why is the second line right-aligned in the following example?
>>
>>
>> The first you use the iwona font in your document context has to load the
>> typescript
>> for it from a external files which produces a lot of spaces in the text.
>
> Thanks Wolfgang. It's obvious when you think about it, but still
> unexpected. Here's a more minimal example:
>
> \usetypescriptfile[iwona]
> \starttext
> \hbox{before \usetypescript[iwona] after}
> \stoptext
The problem the same as here:
\starttext
\ruledhbox{ \def\test{} A}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
Hi All, can someone explain to me why loading a file/typescript is producing spaces If the code that does load the file/s produced spaces for debugging purposes that is fine, but should not they actually going somewhere else? Then with a decent message!? Personally, I find it a bug if loading fonts or other files produces extraneous characters! regards Keith. Am 28.04.2013 um 20:04 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster : > > Am 28.04.2013 um 19:56 schrieb Marco Patzer : > >> Hi, >> >> why is the second line right-aligned in the following example? > > > The first you use the iwona font in your document context has to load the > typescript > for it from a external files which produces a lot of spaces in the text. When > you load > the font at the begin of the document with > > \usetypescriptfile[iwona] > \usetypescript[iwona] > > this doesn’t happen anymore. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
On 2013–04–28 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 28.04.2013 um 19:56 schrieb Marco Patzer :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > why is the second line right-aligned in the following example?
>
>
> The first you use the iwona font in your document context has to load the
> typescript
> for it from a external files which produces a lot of spaces in the text.
Thanks Wolfgang. It's obvious when you think about it, but still
unexpected. Here's a more minimal example:
\usetypescriptfile[iwona]
\starttext
\hbox{before \usetypescript[iwona] after}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
Am 28.04.2013 um 19:56 schrieb Marco Patzer : > Hi, > > why is the second line right-aligned in the following example? The first you use the iwona font in your document context has to load the typescript for it from a external files which produces a lot of spaces in the text. When you load the font at the begin of the document with \usetypescriptfile[iwona] \usetypescript[iwona] this doesn’t happen anymore. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Offset MP text with font change
Hi,
why is the second line right-aligned in the following example?
\definetextext
[foo]
[#1]#2{\switchtobodyfont[#1]#2}
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{
\startMPcode
draw \sometxt[foo][sans]{FooBar};
\stopMPcode
\startMPcode
draw \sometxt[foo][iwona]{FooBar};
\stopMPcode}
\stoptext
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