subject:"\[NTG\-context\] RTL section heads"

Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen


On 4/13/2016 5:14 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:

I updated my context standalone but it gives me current version:
2016.*_04.10_* 23:52, which is buggy.  This is from 3 days ago.


the garden is being reinstalled / updates but you can get the zip from 
the website and unpack it in the right spot


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-13 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

Thanks, Hans!  The update worked (current version: 2016.04.13 16:46) and
the RTL problem seems gone.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez  wrote:

> On 04/13/2016 05:14 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
> > I updated my context standalone but it gives me current version:
> > 2016.*_04.10_* 23:52, which is buggy.  This is from 3 days ago.
>
> The server is experiencing some issues
> (https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/084979.html).
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Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-13 Thread Pablo Rodriguez

On 04/13/2016 05:14 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
> I updated my context standalone but it gives me current version:
> 2016.*_04.10_* 23:52, which is buggy.  This is from 3 days ago.

The server is experiencing some issues
(https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/084979.html).


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Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-13 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

I updated my context standalone but it gives me current version: 2016.
*04.10* 23:52, which is buggy.  This is from 3 days ago.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 4/13/2016 4:59 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
>
>> As far as I remember, it was working fine with betas in December 2015
>> and January 2016.
>>
>
> i uploaded a new beta
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen


On 4/13/2016 4:59 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:

As far as I remember, it was working fine with betas in December 2015
and January 2016.


i uploaded a new beta


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Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen


On 4/13/2016 4:15 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Hans and Mohammad Reza,

I can confirm that the wrong behaviour of numbers and digits in Right to Left 
(more specifically Persian) is recent: indeed with

ConTeXt  ver: 2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current  fmt: 2015.6.18  int: 
english/english

from TeXLive 2015 the numbers and digits are rendered as they should. Is it 
related to some changes in LuaTeX?


maybe a bug .. i'll check it


Best regards: OK


On 13 Apr 2016, at 02:46, Mohammad Hossein Bateni  wrote:

Unfortunately when I use method=two for bidi, the numbers in the main body are 
written from right to left.  I'm starting to wonder whether it does anything 
nontrivial at all.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext

سال ۲۰۱۶

2016

\stoptext


I'm pretty sure this used to work (for example in version 2016.01.18 22:21).  A 
similar piece of code is working fine on the website.  I'm using CONTEXT 
version: 2016.04.01 13:01.  I also verified that it is not working in version: 
2016.04.10 23:52.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni  
wrote:
Thanks, Hans!  This does solve the problem with the list of numbers.  And 
actually if I add a numberstyle field, I can the section heads the way I like.  
Here is the setup that worked.  (I will update Wiki later.)

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
\setupalign[r2l]

\def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
\def\leftpersiandecimals#1{\LTR{\persiandecimals{#1}}}
\defineconversion[leftpersiandecimals][\leftpersiandecimals]
\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] 
[conversion=leftpersiandecimals,numberstyle=\righttoleft]

\defineseparatorset[dashsep][-,-,-,-]
\setuphead[section][sectionseparatorset=dashsep]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
Hans & Wolfgang,

Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
section head numbers?

In fact, the following may be quite relevant.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext

اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.

اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.

اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.

\stoptext


I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
right to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in
the bidi code?  If so, are there any workarounds?

method=two

Thanks,
Hossein

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
> wrote:

 Hi,

 This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections
 under that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
 left of '0'.
 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
 section number.
 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
   (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
 another thread.  To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
 to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)

 In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
 following (aligned to the right).
 elpmas 1
 txet 1-1
 txet 2-1
 txet 3-1
 ...
 txet 10-1

 Here's the first attempt.

 %% Attempt 1
 \setupalign[r2l]

 \starttext
 \placecontent

 \chapter{sample}
 \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
 \stoptext

 The result is:
 elpmas 1
 txet 1-1
 ...
 txet 01-1


 Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
 beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
 but texts left-aligned):
 sample1
 text   1.1
 ...
 text 1.10


 A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
 separator).

 %% Attempt 3
 \setupalign[r2l]

 \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
 \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
 \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
 \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]

 \starttext
 \placecontent

 \chapter{sample}
 \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
 \stoptext


 The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
 setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This makes
 it difficult to one section name with English title, which should
 still be typeset on the right-hand side of the page.)  Note that in
 attempt 2 above, there were

Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-12 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

As far as I remember, it was working fine with betas in December 2015 and
January 2016.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:

> Hi Hans and Mohammad Reza,
>
> I can confirm that the wrong behaviour of numbers and digits in Right to
> Left (more specifically Persian) is recent: indeed with
>
> ConTeXt  ver: 2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current  fmt: 2015.6.18  int:
> english/english
>
> from TeXLive 2015 the numbers and digits are rendered as they should. Is
> it related to some changes in LuaTeX?
>
> Best regards: OK
>
> > On 13 Apr 2016, at 02:46, Mohammad Hossein Bateni 
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately when I use method=two for bidi, the numbers in the main
> body are written from right to left.  I'm starting to wonder whether it
> does anything nontrivial at all.
> >
> > \usemodule[simplefonts]
> > \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
> >
> > \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> > \setupalign[r2l]
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > سال ۲۰۱۶
> >
> > 2016
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this used to work (for example in version 2016.01.18 22:21).
> A similar piece of code is working fine on the website.  I'm using CONTEXT
> version: 2016.04.01 13:01.  I also verified that it is not working in
> version: 2016.04.10 23:52.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni <
> bat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, Hans!  This does solve the problem with the list of numbers.
> And actually if I add a numberstyle field, I can the section heads the way
> I like.  Here is the setup that worked.  (I will update Wiki later.)
> >
> > \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> > \setupalign[r2l]
> >
> > \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> > \def\leftpersiandecimals#1{\LTR{\persiandecimals{#1}}}
> > \defineconversion[leftpersiandecimals][\leftpersiandecimals]
> > \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject]
> [conversion=leftpersiandecimals,numberstyle=\righttoleft]
> >
> > \defineseparatorset[dashsep][-,-,-,-]
> > \setuphead[section][sectionseparatorset=dashsep]
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> > On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
> > Hans & Wolfgang,
> >
> > Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
> > section head numbers?
> >
> > In fact, the following may be quite relevant.
> >
> > \usemodule[simplefonts]
> > \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
> >
> > \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
> > \setupalign[r2l]
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.
> >
> > اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
> >
> > اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> >
> > I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
> > right to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
> > whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
> > or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in
> > the bidi code?  If so, are there any workarounds?
> >
> > method=two
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hossein
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections
> > under that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
> > 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
> > left of '0'.
> > 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
> > section number.
> > 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
> >   (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
> > another thread.  To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
> > to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)
> >
> > In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
> > following (aligned to the right).
> > elpmas 1
> > txet 1-1
> > txet 2-1
> > txet 3-1
> > ...
> > txet 10-1
> >
> > Here's the first attempt.
> >
> > %% Attempt 1
> > \setupalign[r2l]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \placecontent
> >
> > \chapter{sample}
> > \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
> > \stoptext
> >
> > The result is:
> > elpmas 1
> > txet 1-1
> > ...
> > txet 01-1
> >
> >
> > Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
> > beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
> > but texts left-aligned):
> > sample1
> > text   1.1
> > ...
> > text 1.10
> >
> >
> > A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
> > separator).
> >
> > %% Attempt 3
> > \setupalign[r2l]
> >
> > \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> >

Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-12 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Hans and Mohammad Reza,

I can confirm that the wrong behaviour of numbers and digits in Right to Left 
(more specifically Persian) is recent: indeed with 

ConTeXt  ver: 2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current  fmt: 2015.6.18  int: 
english/english

from TeXLive 2015 the numbers and digits are rendered as they should. Is it 
related to some changes in LuaTeX?

Best regards: OK

> On 13 Apr 2016, at 02:46, Mohammad Hossein Bateni  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately when I use method=two for bidi, the numbers in the main body 
> are written from right to left.  I'm starting to wonder whether it does 
> anything nontrivial at all.
> 
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
> 
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> \setupalign[r2l]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> سال ۲۰۱۶
> 
> 2016
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> I'm pretty sure this used to work (for example in version 2016.01.18 22:21).  
> A similar piece of code is working fine on the website.  I'm using CONTEXT 
> version: 2016.04.01 13:01.  I also verified that it is not working in 
> version: 2016.04.10 23:52.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni  
> wrote:
> Thanks, Hans!  This does solve the problem with the list of numbers.  And 
> actually if I add a numberstyle field, I can the section heads the way I 
> like.  Here is the setup that worked.  (I will update Wiki later.)
> 
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> \setupalign[r2l]
> 
> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> \def\leftpersiandecimals#1{\LTR{\persiandecimals{#1}}}
> \defineconversion[leftpersiandecimals][\leftpersiandecimals]
> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] 
> [conversion=leftpersiandecimals,numberstyle=\righttoleft]
> 
> \defineseparatorset[dashsep][-,-,-,-]
> \setuphead[section][sectionseparatorset=dashsep]
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
> Hans & Wolfgang,
> 
> Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
> section head numbers?
> 
> In fact, the following may be quite relevant.
> 
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
> 
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
> \setupalign[r2l]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.
> 
> اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
> 
> اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
> right to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
> whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
> or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in
> the bidi code?  If so, are there any workarounds?
> 
> method=two
> 
> Thanks,
> Hossein
> 
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections
> under that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
> 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
> left of '0'.
> 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
> section number.
> 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
>   (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
> another thread.  To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
> to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)
> 
> In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
> following (aligned to the right).
> elpmas 1
> txet 1-1
> txet 2-1
> txet 3-1
> ...
> txet 10-1
> 
> Here's the first attempt.
> 
> %% Attempt 1
> \setupalign[r2l]
> 
> \starttext
> \placecontent
> 
> \chapter{sample}
> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
> \stoptext
> 
> The result is:
> elpmas 1
> txet 1-1
> ...
> txet 01-1
> 
> 
> Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
> beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
> but texts left-aligned):
> sample1
> text   1.1
> ...
> text 1.10
> 
> 
> A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
> separator).
> 
> %% Attempt 3
> \setupalign[r2l]
> 
> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
> 
> \starttext
> \placecontent
> 
> \chapter{sample}
> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
> setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This

Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-12 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

Unfortunately when I use method=two for bidi, the numbers in the main body
are written from right to left.  I'm starting to wonder whether it does
anything nontrivial at all.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext

سال ۲۰۱۶

2016

\stoptext


I'm pretty sure this used to work (for example in version 2016.01.18
22:21).  A similar piece of code is working fine on the website
.  I'm using CONTEXT version: 2016.04.01
13:01.  I also verified that it is not working in version: 2016.04.10 23:52.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni 
wrote:

> Thanks, Hans!  This does solve the problem with the list of numbers.  And
> actually if I add a numberstyle field, I can the section heads the way I
> like.  Here is the setup that worked.  (I will update Wiki later.)
>
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
> \setupalign[r2l]
>
> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> \def\leftpersiandecimals#1{\LTR{\persiandecimals{#1}}}
> \defineconversion[leftpersiandecimals][\leftpersiandecimals]
> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject]
> [conversion=leftpersiandecimals,numberstyle=\righttoleft]
>
> \defineseparatorset[dashsep][-,-,-,-]
> \setuphead[section][sectionseparatorset=dashsep]
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
>> On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
>>
>>> Hans & Wolfgang,
>>>
>>> Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
>>> section head numbers?
>>>
>>> In fact, the following may be quite relevant.
>>>
>>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>>
>>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.
>>>
>>> اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
>>>
>>> اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>>
>>> I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
>>> right to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
>>> whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
>>> or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in
>>> the bidi code?  If so, are there any workarounds?
>>>
>>
>> method=two
>>
>> Thanks,
>>> Hossein
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections
>>> under that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
>>> 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
>>> left of '0'.
>>> 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
>>> section number.
>>> 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
>>>   (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
>>> another thread.  To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
>>> to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)
>>>
>>> In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
>>> following (aligned to the right).
>>> elpmas 1
>>> txet 1-1
>>> txet 2-1
>>> txet 3-1
>>> ...
>>> txet 10-1
>>>
>>> Here's the first attempt.
>>>
>>> %% Attempt 1
>>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \placecontent
>>>
>>> \chapter{sample}
>>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> The result is:
>>> elpmas 1
>>> txet 1-1
>>> ...
>>> txet 01-1
>>>
>>>
>>> Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
>>> beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
>>> but texts left-aligned):
>>> sample1
>>> text   1.1
>>> ...
>>> text 1.10
>>>
>>>
>>> A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
>>> separator).
>>>
>>> %% Attempt 3
>>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>>
>>> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
>>> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
>>> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
>>> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \placecontent
>>>
>>> \chapter{sample}
>>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>>
>>> The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
>>> setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This makes
>>> it difficult to one section name with English title, which should
>>> still be typeset on the right-hand side of the page.)  Note that in
>>> attempt 2 above, there were two issues:
>>> (1) Text and numbers appeared on the two far ends of the screen
>>> instead of being

Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-11 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

Thanks, Hans!  This does solve the problem with the list of numbers.  And
actually if I add a numberstyle field, I can the section heads the way I
like.  Here is the setup that worked.  (I will update Wiki later.)

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
\setupalign[r2l]

\def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
\def\leftpersiandecimals#1{\LTR{\persiandecimals{#1}}}
\defineconversion[leftpersiandecimals][\leftpersiandecimals]
\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject]
[conversion=leftpersiandecimals,numberstyle=\righttoleft]

\defineseparatorset[dashsep][-,-,-,-]
\setuphead[section][sectionseparatorset=dashsep]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:
>
>> Hans & Wolfgang,
>>
>> Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
>> section head numbers?
>>
>> In fact, the following may be quite relevant.
>>
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.
>>
>> اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
>>
>> اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
>> right to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
>> whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
>> or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in
>> the bidi code?  If so, are there any workarounds?
>>
>
> method=two
>
> Thanks,
>> Hossein
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections
>> under that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
>> 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
>> left of '0'.
>> 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
>> section number.
>> 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
>>   (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
>> another thread.  To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
>> to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)
>>
>> In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
>> following (aligned to the right).
>> elpmas 1
>> txet 1-1
>> txet 2-1
>> txet 3-1
>> ...
>> txet 10-1
>>
>> Here's the first attempt.
>>
>> %% Attempt 1
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{sample}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> The result is:
>> elpmas 1
>> txet 1-1
>> ...
>> txet 01-1
>>
>>
>> Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
>> beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
>> but texts left-aligned):
>> sample1
>> text   1.1
>> ...
>> text 1.10
>>
>>
>> A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
>> separator).
>>
>> %% Attempt 3
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
>> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
>> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
>> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{sample}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
>> setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This makes
>> it difficult to one section name with English title, which should
>> still be typeset on the right-hand side of the page.)  Note that in
>> attempt 2 above, there were two issues:
>> (1) Text and numbers appeared on the two far ends of the screen
>> instead of being close to each other.  This does not happen when I
>> use Farsi text.
>> (2) Chapter number appears to the left of section number.
>>
>>
>> %% Attempt 5
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>>
>> \chapter{نمونه}
>> \dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> Interestingly the table of contents looks fine if I put the number
>> inside an LTR macro; still in the main body, the section heads are
>> typeset incorrectly.
>>
>> %% Attempt 6
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>>
>> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>>
>> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
>>

Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen


On 4/11/2016 4:25 AM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni wrote:

Hans & Wolfgang,

Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
section head numbers?

In fact, the following may be quite relevant.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext

اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.

اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.

اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.

\stoptext


I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from
right to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of
whether I use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian
or English commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in
the bidi code?  If so, are there any workarounds?


method=two


Thanks,
Hossein

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni
> wrote:

Hi,

This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections
under that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the
left of '0'.
2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the
section number.
3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.
  (This is ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in
another thread.  To get a minimal working example, I also do not try
to change the numbers to use Persian digits.)

In particular, the headings will be visually something like the
following (aligned to the right).
elpmas 1
txet 1-1
txet 2-1
txet 3-1
...
txet 10-1

Here's the first attempt.

%% Attempt 1
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{sample}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
\stoptext

The result is:
elpmas 1
txet 1-1
...
txet 01-1


Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the
beginning and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned
but texts left-aligned):
sample1
text   1.1
...
text 1.10


A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the
separator).

%% Attempt 3
\setupalign[r2l]

\def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
\def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
\defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{sample}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
\stoptext


The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This makes
it difficult to one section name with English title, which should
still be typeset on the right-hand side of the page.)  Note that in
attempt 2 above, there were two issues:
(1) Text and numbers appeared on the two far ends of the screen
instead of being close to each other.  This does not happen when I
use Farsi text.
(2) Chapter number appears to the left of section number.


%% Attempt 5
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{نمونه}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
\stoptext


Interestingly the table of contents looks fine if I put the number
inside an LTR macro; still in the main body, the section heads are
typeset incorrectly.

%% Attempt 6
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
\def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
\defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{نمونه}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
\stoptext


I guess the solution is to get the entire section head number string
(e.g., 1.10) to have RTL direction, however, each individual number
string inside (say, 1 or 10) should be written LTR.  How can this be
achieved?

The six TeX files (with corresponding PDF outputs) are attached.

BTW this is using ConTeXt ver: 2016.04.01 13:01 MKIV beta fmt:
2016.4.7 int: english/english, running LuaTeX, Version beta-0.90.0
(TeX Live 2016) on Mac OS X.

Thanks a lot,
—MHB





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Re: [NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-10 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

Hans & Wolfgang,

Do you have suggestions here?  How can I get the behavior I want for the
section head numbers?

In fact, the following may be quite relevant.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext

اعداد ۱، ۲، ۳ و ۴ را در نظر بگیرید.

اعداد 1، 2، 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.

اعداد 1, 2, 3 و 4 را در نظر بگیرید.

\stoptext


I expect the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 to appear in the same order from right
to left.  However, the visual order that I observe (regardless of whether I
use Persian digits or English digits, or whether I use Persian or English
commas) is 4, 1, 2, 3 (from left to right).  Is this a bug in the bidi
code?  If so, are there any workarounds?

Thanks,
Hossein

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mohammad Hossein Bateni 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections under
> that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
> 1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the left of
> '0'.
> 2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the section
> number.
> 3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.  (This is
> ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in another thread.  To
> get a minimal working example, I also do not try to change the numbers to
> use Persian digits.)
>
> In particular, the headings will be visually something like the following
> (aligned to the right).
> elpmas 1
> txet 1-1
> txet 2-1
> txet 3-1
> ...
> txet 10-1
>
> Here's the first attempt.
>
> %% Attempt 1
> \setupalign[r2l]
>
> \starttext
> \placecontent
>
> \chapter{sample}
> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
> \stoptext
>
> The result is:
> elpmas 1
> txet 1-1
> ...
> txet 01-1
>
>
> Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the beginning
> and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned but texts
> left-aligned):
> sample1
> text   1.1
> ...
> text 1.10
>
>
> A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the separator).
>
> %% Attempt 3
> \setupalign[r2l]
>
> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
>
> \starttext
> \placecontent
>
> \chapter{sample}
> \dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
> \stoptext
>
>
> The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
> setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This makes it
> difficult to one section name with English title, which should still be
> typeset on the right-hand side of the page.)  Note that in attempt 2 above,
> there were two issues:
> (1) Text and numbers appeared on the two far ends of the screen instead of
> being close to each other.  This does not happen when I use Farsi text.
> (2) Chapter number appears to the left of section number.
>
>
> %% Attempt 5
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
> \setupalign[r2l]
>
> \starttext
> \placecontent
>
> \chapter{نمونه}
> \dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
> \stoptext
>
>
> Interestingly the table of contents looks fine if I put the number inside
> an LTR macro; still in the main body, the section heads are typeset
> incorrectly.
>
> %% Attempt 6
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]
>
> \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
> \setupalign[r2l]
>
> \def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
> \def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
> \defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
> \setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]
>
> \starttext
> \placecontent
>
> \chapter{نمونه}
> \dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
> \stoptext
>
>
> I guess the solution is to get the entire section head number string
> (e.g., 1.10) to have RTL direction, however, each individual number string
> inside (say, 1 or 10) should be written LTR.  How can this be achieved?
>
> The six TeX files (with corresponding PDF outputs) are attached.
>
> BTW this is using ConTeXt ver: 2016.04.01 13:01 MKIV beta fmt: 2016.4.7
> int: english/english, running LuaTeX, Version beta-0.90.0 (TeX Live 2016)
> on Mac OS X.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> —MHB
>
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[NTG-context] RTL section heads

2016-04-08 Thread Mohammad Hossein Bateni

Hi,

This is concerning an RTL text.  I have one chapter and 10 sections under
that.  My goal is to achieve the following.
1) The number 10 should appear correctly with '1' visually to the left of
'0'.
2) The chapter number should visually appear to the right of the section
number.
3) Chapter and section numbers should be separated with a dash.  (This is
ignored in this email and I will follow up about it in another thread.  To
get a minimal working example, I also do not try to change the numbers to
use Persian digits.)

In particular, the headings will be visually something like the following
(aligned to the right).
elpmas 1
txet 1-1
txet 2-1
txet 3-1
...
txet 10-1

Here's the first attempt.

%% Attempt 1
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{sample}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
\stoptext

The result is:
elpmas 1
txet 1-1
...
txet 01-1


Then I add "\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]" to the beginning
and I get the most strange result (number right-aligned but texts
left-aligned):
sample1
text   1.1
...
text 1.10


A third attempt gives almost what I want (without period as the separator).

%% Attempt 3
\setupalign[r2l]

\def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
\def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
\defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{sample}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{text}}
\stoptext


The big problem is that in my RTL documents, I always have the
setupdirections command, which messes things up here.  (This makes it
difficult to one section name with English title, which should still be
typeset on the right-hand side of the page.)  Note that in attempt 2 above,
there were two issues:
(1) Text and numbers appeared on the two far ends of the screen instead of
being close to each other.  This does not happen when I use Farsi text.
(2) Chapter number appears to the left of section number.


%% Attempt 5
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{نمونه}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
\stoptext


Interestingly the table of contents looks fine if I put the number inside
an LTR macro; still in the main body, the section heads are typeset
incorrectly.

%% Attempt 6
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ALM Fixed][features=arabic,range=arabic]

\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
\setupalign[r2l]

\def\LTR#1{{\lefttoright#1}}
\def\leftnumbers#1{\LTR{\numbers{#1}}}
\defineconversion[leftnumbers][\leftnumbers]
\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject] [conversion=leftnumbers]

\starttext
\placecontent

\chapter{نمونه}
\dorecurse{10}{\section{متن}}
\stoptext


I guess the solution is to get the entire section head number string (e.g.,
1.10) to have RTL direction, however, each individual number string inside
(say, 1 or 10) should be written LTR.  How can this be achieved?

The six TeX files (with corresponding PDF outputs) are attached.

BTW this is using ConTeXt ver: 2016.04.01 13:01 MKIV beta fmt: 2016.4.7
int: english/english, running LuaTeX, Version beta-0.90.0 (TeX Live 2016)
on Mac OS X.

Thanks a lot,
—MHB


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