Re: [NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> I know .. the problem is that I am cleaning up all the code (the status can
> be seen in status-mkiv.pdf) and have to find a moment of stability as such a
> cleanup is often leading to temporsry issues (due to renaming)
no status-mkiv.pdf in the directory; status-mkiv.tex doesn't compile
because status-namespaces.lua and status-registers.lua don't exist
yet. commenting those sections out solves the problem, or if you want
to get fancy there's a patch below that checks if the files exist.
Cheers,
Sietse
context.starttitle { title = "messy namespaces" }
- local namespaces = dofile("status-namespaces.lua")
+local namespaces = io.exists("status-namespaces.lua") and
+dofile("status-namespaces.lua") or { }
+
+if not io.exists("status-namespaces.lua") then
+context("\\type{status-namespaces.lua} does not exist yet.")
+end
for namespace, data in table.sortedhash(namespaces) do
if valid[namespace] then
else
context(namespace)
end
context.par()
end
context.stoptitle()
context.starttitle { title = "messy registers" }
- local namespaces = dofile("status-registers.lua")
+local registers = io.exists("status-registers.lua") and
+dofile("status-registers.lua") or { }
+
+if not io.exists("status-registers.lua") then
+context("\\type{status-registers.lua} does not exist yet.")
+end
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Re: [NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
On 21-8-2012 09:04, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
That's for Hans or Wolfgang …
\ifx\contextversion\undefined
\def\contextversion {unknown}
\def\contextversionnumber{0}
\else
%\def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10
0\fi#2\ifnum#3<10 0\fi#3 #4:#5}
\def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10
0\fi\purenumber{#2}\ifnum#3<10 0\fi\purenumber{#3} #4:#5}
\edef\contextversionnumber{\expandafter\contextversionnumber\contextversion\relax\space\contextmark}
\fi
\starttext
\contextversionnumber
\stoptext
fixed
-
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Re: [NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
On 21-8-2012 08:42, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Some time ago a new stable version came out at least once per week and betas were rare, for testing features. I think that we asked Hans not to release "current" versions with testing features so often, so that people don't end up with broken ConTeXt. As a consequence he started releasing betas with that pace, but sadly he forgets to release current versions every now and then :( I know .. the problem is that I am cleaning up all the code (the status can be seen in status-mkiv.pdf) and have to find a moment of stability as such a cleanup is often leading to temporsry issues (due to renaming) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
On 20-8-2012 18:26, Sietse Brouwer wrote: The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX Live are quite different things. MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?) 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible. Yes, that was the idea .. at the same time mojca was setting up a git repository and we wanted to synchronize the stable and repository launch .. we're just too busy I guess. So, I have no problem with promoting the tl version to current. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
Am 21.08.2012 um 08:42 schrieb Mojca Miklavec :
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX
>> Live are quite different things.
>>
>> MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current
>> MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki
>> MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?)
>
> Usually it works better if you CC me since there are a lot of emails I
> recently skip reading (based on subject).
>
>> 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca
>> puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible.
>
> It was Hans who has put the work into it, but I don't know why he
> didn't release a public "current" release. I applied some minor
> patches over 2012.05.29 based on later ConTeXt version, so it's not
> *exactly* that version, but I had no idea what to do about the date.
>
> I have no idea how Hans uploads current versions, but I could make a
> zip, upload it to CTAN and make it available as current in minimals.
> (If I forget to do that in less than a week, please remind me.)
>
>> 3. Is there a list of past stable versions somewhere?
>
> Probably the best answer would be the (unofficial) git repository:
>http://gitorious.org/context/context
> I also have a repository on
>https://github.com/mojca/context
> It's not updated though - I update from gitorious from time to time,
> but not automatically. I tried to make sure that even the oldest
> version have some consistency.
>
>> I can't find
>> one, and without it the ability to go to a specific stable version
>> with
>> `sh ./first-setup.sh --context=date` seems a bit useless. (Can't
>> really imagine a use in general, though.)
>
> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/
>
> Some time ago a new stable version came out at least once per week and
> betas were rare, for testing features. I think that we asked Hans not
> to release "current" versions with testing features so often, so that
> people don't end up with broken ConTeXt. As a consequence he started
> releasing betas with that pace, but sadly he forgets to release
> current versions every now and then :(
>
> But anyway, manually interfering and making sure that the same version
> as in TeX Live ends up in minimals (and on the wiki) would not be such
> a bad idea.
>
>> 4. (Less important.) context.mkiv defines \contextversion as e.g.
>> `2012.08.11 14:11`, but \contextversionnumber in mult-ini.mkiv still
>> prepends a zero to the month or day. (It checks whether 08 < 10, which
>> is true even if the leading zero is present.) This causes the extra
>> zeros you saw in the version numbers above. Can this be changed
>> without breakage ensuing?
>
> That's for Hans or Wolfgang …
\ifx\contextversion\undefined
\def\contextversion {unknown}
\def\contextversionnumber{0}
\else
%\def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10
0\fi#2\ifnum#3<10 0\fi#3 #4:#5}
\def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10
0\fi\purenumber{#2}\ifnum#3<10 0\fi\purenumber{#3} #4:#5}
\edef\contextversionnumber{\expandafter\contextversionnumber\contextversion\relax\space\contextmark}
\fi
\starttext
\contextversionnumber
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote: > Hi all, > > The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX > Live are quite different things. > > MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current > MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki > MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?) Usually it works better if you CC me since there are a lot of emails I recently skip reading (based on subject). > 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca > puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible. It was Hans who has put the work into it, but I don't know why he didn't release a public "current" release. I applied some minor patches over 2012.05.29 based on later ConTeXt version, so it's not *exactly* that version, but I had no idea what to do about the date. I have no idea how Hans uploads current versions, but I could make a zip, upload it to CTAN and make it available as current in minimals. (If I forget to do that in less than a week, please remind me.) > 3. Is there a list of past stable versions somewhere? Probably the best answer would be the (unofficial) git repository: http://gitorious.org/context/context I also have a repository on https://github.com/mojca/context It's not updated though - I update from gitorious from time to time, but not automatically. I tried to make sure that even the oldest version have some consistency. > I can't find > one, and without it the ability to go to a specific stable version > with > `sh ./first-setup.sh --context=date` seems a bit useless. (Can't > really imagine a use in general, though.) http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/ Some time ago a new stable version came out at least once per week and betas were rare, for testing features. I think that we asked Hans not to release "current" versions with testing features so often, so that people don't end up with broken ConTeXt. As a consequence he started releasing betas with that pace, but sadly he forgets to release current versions every now and then :( But anyway, manually interfering and making sure that the same version as in TeX Live ends up in minimals (and on the wiki) would not be such a bad idea. > 4. (Less important.) context.mkiv defines \contextversion as e.g. > `2012.08.11 14:11`, but \contextversionnumber in mult-ini.mkiv still > prepends a zero to the month or day. (It checks whether 08 < 10, which > is true even if the leading zero is present.) This causes the extra > zeros you saw in the version numbers above. Can this be changed > without breakage ensuing? That's for Hans or Wolfgang ... Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Stable versions of MkIV
Hi all, The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX Live are quite different things. MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?) 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible. 2. Perhaps have the MkIV on the wiki track the MkIV in TeXlive? We can show off reasonably-recent features, it looks more up-to-date, it's a nice clear answer to "should we update already?", and it ensures that we update to reasonably bug-free versions. 3. Is there a list of past stable versions somewhere? I can't find one, and without it the ability to go to a specific stable version with `sh ./first-setup.sh --context=date` seems a bit useless. (Can't really imagine a use in general, though.) 4. (Less important.) context.mkiv defines \contextversion as e.g. `2012.08.11 14:11`, but \contextversionnumber in mult-ini.mkiv still prepends a zero to the month or day. (It checks whether 08 < 10, which is true even if the leading zero is present.) This causes the extra zeros you saw in the version numbers above. Can this be changed without breakage ensuing? I expect that nobody depends on it over the more direct \contextversion. (People that do use \contextversionnumber have a problem anyway, because the version strings it produces in October-December will always turn out 'earlier/older' than the ones produced in January-September, regardless of year.) Cheers, Sietse ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
