Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-05 Thread Willi Egger
As Hraban mentions it might be best to place the two tables with \placefigure + 
startcombination .. \stopcombination.

If you want to stick to the columnsets and this is for this single page only, 
then you could place the spanning text in a \framedtext.  The placefigure 
command must be place right after the \startcolumnset command. This you could 
place with \placefigure like this:

\placefigure
[btlr]
[]
{none}
{\offset[y=-7cm]{\framedtext[width=\makeupwidth,offset=0pt,frame=off]
{Zwar werden ...}}}

With the offset you can move the text-box to the position you want it. 

Willi
On 1 Jul 2011, at 19:46, Bernd Kosubek wrote:

 Am Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:32:52 +0200
 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net:
 
 Am 2011-07-01 um 18:00 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
 
 is it possible to change the number of columns on the same page?
 
 Please read http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns
 
 Thanks for your quickly answer.
 
 I have read it, but there is no answer of my question.
 I know, that I can use columns instead of columnset.
 It is not in my interest to find other solutions for this Problem,
 rather I wish to know: is it possible to use different numbers of
 columns on the same page if I use columnset!
 
 
 It's not that easy.
 Please carefully read the columns manual, linked from the above page.
 
 If you want to change between e.g. 2 and 3 columns, you can either  
 define a columnset with 6 layout columns and put your text in spans
 of 3 or 2 of those layout columns or define two different columnsets
 like in the examples in chapter Spanning and More.
 
 Principally you should be able to use the old columns mechanism and  
 change the number of columns in-page, but I don't know if you can
 make it work reliably.
 
 Greetlings from Lake Constance!
 Hraban
 
 Tis is a possibility, but if the following text [in my example b)] is a
 huge paragraph, it is not realizeable.
 
 I give a sample for the problem on my neglected page
 http://www.bk-tex.de/csetquest.html; [= (c)olum(set)-(quest)ion]
 
 The text on the second page (see the pdf-file) should be placed in a
 short distance to the table.
 
 I know that this is not the best method to handle this job but it
 shows good what I mean.
 
 Greetlings from Leipzig (Lipsia)
 Bernd
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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-05 Thread Bernd Kosubek
Am Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:13:14 +0200
schrieb Willi Egger w.eg...@boede.nl:

 As Hraban mentions it might be best to place the two tables with \placefigure
 + startcombination .. \stopcombination.
 
 If you want to stick to the columnsets and this is for this single page only,
 then you could place the spanning text in a \framedtext.  The placefigure
 command must be place right after the \startcolumnset command. This you could
 place with \placefigure like this:
 
 \placefigure
   [btlr]
   []
   {none}
 {\offset[y=-7cm]{\framedtext[width=\makeupwidth,offset=0pt,frame=off]
 {Zwar werden ...}}}
 
 With the offset you can move the text-box to the position you want it. 
 
 Willi

Hi Willy,

Hraban forces the problem in a wrong way.

I wish the eliminination of the pagebreak after \stopcolumnset.
It is for me not of interest what contents the columns have.

I wish the following:

text text text   flow text
text text text
xx  xx   /startcolumnset
xx  xx
xx  xx   /stopcolumnset
text text text   flow text
text text text

and all of that on the same page by using columnset.

Is it possible and if true, how is it possible.

Bernd


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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-05 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 05.07.2011 um 17:26 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:

 Hraban forces the problem in a wrong way.
 
 I wish the eliminination of the pagebreak after \stopcolumnset.
 It is for me not of interest what contents the columns have.
 
 I wish the following:
 
 text text text   flow text
 text text text
 xx  xx   /startcolumnset
 xx  xx
 xx  xx   /stopcolumnset
 text text text   flow text
 text text text
 
 and all of that on the same page by using columnset.
 
 Is it possible and if true, how is it possible.

You’re trying to solve your problem the wrong.

You want according to your example two table side by side
at the complete width of the page and the natural way to
do is this is to insert a float which spans three columns,
inside the float you can then place the two tables with
a combination (or a table with two columns).

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-05 Thread Willi Egger
Unfortunately this will not work with columnsets. Those always use a complete 
page. So after stating \startcolumnset there is always a page break, as is 
after \stopcolumnset.
If you intend to place text before and after the piece where you use two colums 
then you should think of another solution as mentioned by placing the 
columnpart in a float with combination.


Willi
On 5 Jul 2011, at 17:26, Bernd Kosubek wrote:

 Am Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:13:14 +0200
 schrieb Willi Egger w.eg...@boede.nl:
 
 As Hraban mentions it might be best to place the two tables with \placefigure
 + startcombination .. \stopcombination.
 
 If you want to stick to the columnsets and this is for this single page only,
 then you could place the spanning text in a \framedtext.  The placefigure
 command must be place right after the \startcolumnset command. This you could
 place with \placefigure like this:
 
 \placefigure
  [btlr]
  []
  {none}
 {\offset[y=-7cm]{\framedtext[width=\makeupwidth,offset=0pt,frame=off]
 {Zwar werden ...}}}
 
 With the offset you can move the text-box to the position you want it. 
 
 Willi
 
 Hi Willy,
 
 Hraban forces the problem in a wrong way.
 
 I wish the eliminination of the pagebreak after \stopcolumnset.
 It is for me not of interest what contents the columns have.
 
 I wish the following:
 
 text text text   flow text
 text text text
 xx  xx   /startcolumnset
 xx  xx
 xx  xx   /stopcolumnset
 text text text   flow text
 text text text
 
 and all of that on the same page by using columnset.
 
 Is it possible and if true, how is it possible.
 
 Bernd
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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-05 Thread Bernd Kosubek
Am Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:52:11 +0200
schrieb Willi Egger w.eg...@boede.nl:

 Unfortunately this will not work with columnsets. Those always use a complete
 page. So after stating \startcolumnset there is always a page break, as is
 after \stopcolumnset. If you intend to place text before and after the piece
 where you use two colums then you should think of another solution as
 mentioned by placing the columnpart in a float with combination.
 
Thank you Willy,

this is a clear statement.
So now I can plan my future jobs with columnset a little bit better.

Bernd


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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2011-07-01 um 18:00 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:


is it possible to change the number of columns on the same page?


Please read http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns


Thanks for your quickly answer.

I have read it, but there is no answer of my question.
I know, that I can use columns instead of columnset.
It is not in my interest to find other solutions for this Problem,
rather I wish to know: is it possible to use different numbers of
columns on the same page if I use columnset!



It's not that easy.
Please carefully read the columns manual, linked from the above page.

If you want to change between e.g. 2 and 3 columns, you can either  
define a columnset with 6 layout columns and put your text in spans of  
3 or 2 of those layout columns or define two different columnsets like  
in the examples in chapter Spanning and More.


Principally you should be able to use the old columns mechanism and  
change the number of columns in-page, but I don't know if you can make  
it work reliably.


Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-01 Thread Bernd Kosubek
Am Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:32:52 +0200
schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net:

 Am 2011-07-01 um 18:00 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
 
  is it possible to change the number of columns on the same page?
 
  Please read http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns
 
  Thanks for your quickly answer.
 
  I have read it, but there is no answer of my question.
  I know, that I can use columns instead of columnset.
  It is not in my interest to find other solutions for this Problem,
  rather I wish to know: is it possible to use different numbers of
  columns on the same page if I use columnset!
 
 
 It's not that easy.
 Please carefully read the columns manual, linked from the above page.
 
 If you want to change between e.g. 2 and 3 columns, you can either  
 define a columnset with 6 layout columns and put your text in spans
 of 3 or 2 of those layout columns or define two different columnsets
 like in the examples in chapter Spanning and More.
 
 Principally you should be able to use the old columns mechanism and  
 change the number of columns in-page, but I don't know if you can
 make it work reliably.
 
 Greetlings from Lake Constance!
 Hraban

Tis is a possibility, but if the following text [in my example b)] is a
huge paragraph, it is not realizeable.

I give a sample for the problem on my neglected page
http://www.bk-tex.de/csetquest.html; [= (c)olum(set)-(quest)ion]

The text on the second page (see the pdf-file) should be placed in a
short distance to the table.

I know that this is not the best method to handle this job but it
shows good what I mean.

Greetlings from Leipzig (Lipsia)
Bernd


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Re: [NTG-context] changing number of columns

2011-07-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2011-07-01 um 19:46 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:


Tis is a possibility, but if the following text [in my example b)]  
is a

huge paragraph, it is not realizeable.


Did you even try?


I give a sample for the problem on my neglected page
http://www.bk-tex.de/csetquest.html; [= (c)olum(set)-(quest)ion]


You never told us that you just want to typeset two tables side by side.
In this case you might be better off with combinations: 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Combinations
(It talks about images, but tables work the same.)

Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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