Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/1/2020 1:15 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

The following code:

\enabletrackers[context.trace]

%\usemodule[article-basic]

\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
    \setups[font:fallback:sans]
    \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:Optima.ttc(Optima 
Regular)]     [features=default]
    \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]   
      [features=default]
    \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)] 
      [features=default]
    \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold 
Italic)] [features=default]

\stoptypescript

\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]


 \definetypeface [optima] [rm] [sans] [optima] [default]
 \definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [dejavu]




\setupbodyfont [optima]

\starttext

\startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
   picture pic;
pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at 
14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000, 
g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");

draw pic scaled 1.13;
\stopMPpage

\stoptext

Produces nice Optima at 14.9pt without \usemodule[article-basic] (as 
above), but with \usemodule[article-basic] included, the output becomes 
some serif (modern?) font, /but only if I use nonstandard font sizes/.


Took me some time to hunt this one down.

I actually don’t know what article-basic does for me (I started out with 
an example given to me by Hans) and I don’t need it now, but I might 
need it later in combination with my own stuff


G

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___




--

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
   tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Gerben Wierda]

> use pagella math with optima, not modern
> 
Zo?

\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]

Ik gok, want documentatie die dat helder maakt heb ik niet. Er is geen uitleg 
in de manuals die bij de standalone context komen en op ContextGarden vond ik 
vooral mkii zaken die niet meer geldig/juist zijn.

G___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/1/2020 11:33 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

use pagella math with optima, not modern


Zo?

\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]

Ik gok, want documentatie die dat helder maakt heb ik niet. Er is geen 
uitleg in de manuals die bij de standalone context komen en op 
ContextGarden vond ik voora l mkii zaken die niet meer geldig/juist zijn.
er is een dikke font manual en verder is er wolfgangs module (met 
documentatie, ook op de wiki) maar meestal is een font setup vrij 
simple: ik zelf pak gewoon een type-imp-* file, copieer wat regels en 
vul dan de font file namen in; er zit ook allerhande font spul in de 
test suite


(dutch answer to dutch question)

Hans

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
   tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Gerben Wierda]

On 1 May 2020, at 16:02, Wolfgang Schuster  
wrote:
> 
> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:58:
>> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
>> \definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
>> \definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
>> \definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]
>> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>> As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, but 
>> created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined rm, tt and mm 
>> explicitly.
> 
> This does not work because you have no serif or math typescripts
> for optima (\starttypescript [serif] [optima]) defined.

Yes, I was in doubt about that, but I guessed that the fallback maybe took care 
of that. 

   \setups[font:fallback:sans]

mm should be modern anyway, I think (not that I need it, I only want the ss 
form anyway).

G

> 
> Wolfgang

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 18:19:
On 1 May 2020, at 16:02, Wolfgang Schuster 
> wrote:


Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:58:

\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]
\setupbodyfont [optima]
As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, 
but created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined 
rm, tt and mm explicitly.


This does not work because you have no serif or math typescripts
for optima (\starttypescript [serif] [optima]) defined.


Yes, I was in doubt about that, but I guessed that the fallback maybe 
took care of that.


    \setups[font:fallback:sans]

mm should be modern anyway, I think (not that I need it, I only want the 
ss form anyway).


This has still nothing to do with the serif/roman style,
what the setup does is to map the slanted and boldslanted
alternatives to the italic files. You can achieve the same
with two additional \definefontsynonym lines for "SansSlanted"
and "SansBoldSlanted".

Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/1/2020 6:19 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

mm should be modern anyway, I think (not that I need it, I only want the 
ss form anyway).

use pagella math with optima, not modern

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
   tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Gerben Wierda]

> On 1 May 2020, at 13:22, Wolfgang Schuster 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:15:
>> The following code:
>> \enabletrackers[context.trace]
>> %\usemodule[article-basic]
>> \starttypescript [sans] [optima]
>>\setups[font:fallback:sans]
>>\definefontsynonym [Sans]   [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] 
>> [features=default]
>>\definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]
>>  [features=default]
>>\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)]  
>>  [features=default]
>>\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] 
>> [features=default]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
> 
> Set a math font to avoid problems.
> 
>> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>> \starttext
>> \startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
>>   picture pic;
>> pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at 
>> 14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000,
>>  g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");
> 
> You use \rm here which is used to switch to the serif typeface. When your 
> goal is to enforce the upright alternative you use the wrong command because 
> you need \tf for this.

Thank you, that got me the right info on ConTeXtgarden. I now use \tf and:

\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
   \setups[font:fallback:sans]
   \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] 
[features=default]
   \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]
[features=default]
   \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)]  
[features=default]
   \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]

\setupbodyfont [optima]

As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, but created 
a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined rm, tt and mm explicitly.

But my guess is that if I had used ss instead of rm everywhere in my code it 
would have worked as well.

G

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

[NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Gerben Wierda]

The following code:

\enabletrackers[context.trace]

%\usemodule[article-basic]

\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
   \setups[font:fallback:sans]
   \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] 
[features=default]
   \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]
[features=default]
   \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)]  
[features=default]
   \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]

\setupbodyfont [optima]

\starttext

\startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
  picture pic;
pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at 
14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000,
 g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");
draw pic scaled 1.13;
\stopMPpage

\stoptext

Produces nice Optima at 14.9pt without \usemodule[article-basic] (as above), 
but with \usemodule[article-basic] included, the output becomes some serif 
(modern?) font, but only if I use nonstandard font sizes.

Took me some time to hunt this one down.

I actually don’t know what article-basic does for me (I started out with an 
example given to me by Hans) and I don’t need it now, but I might need it later 
in combination with my own stuff

G___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:58:


\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]

\setupbodyfont [optima]

As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, but 
created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined rm, tt 
and mm explicitly.


This does not work because you have no serif or math typescripts
for optima (\starttypescript [serif] [optima]) defined.

Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/1/2020 1:58 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

But my guess is that if I had used ss instead of rm everywhere in my 
code it would have worked as well.


or define the ss first and don't use \rm (first defined is default)

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
   tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:15:

The following code:

\enabletrackers[context.trace]

%\usemodule[article-basic]

\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
    \setups[font:fallback:sans]
    \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [file:Optima.ttc(Optima 
Regular)]     [features=default]
    \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]   
      [features=default]
    \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)] 
      [features=default]
    \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold 
Italic)] [features=default]

\stoptypescript

\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]


Set a math font to avoid problems.


\setupbodyfont [optima]

\starttext

\startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
   picture pic;
pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at 
14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000, 
g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");


You use \rm here which is used to switch to the serif typeface. When 
your goal is to enforce the upright alternative you use the wrong 
command because you need \tf for this.


Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___