Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:29:00 -0500 (EST) Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. I was grately impressed by preview-latex when I tried it (around 2 years ago), so much so that I even considered moving to emacs from vim. It is extremely useful for mathematics and images: you can see the typeset result rather than a bunch of code. This means that you can proofread in the editor rather than a pdf (or dvi) reader. Besides the above use-cases (I do not need math), I'm thinking about the tables - having some visual help can, imho, help a lot. What is needed for an improved support of preview-latex in context? Last time I looked into preview.sty, I could not understand how it works. If I were to do the same thing, this is how I would do it. Run context with a custom module, which writes the content of each \startformula formula \stopformula into a temporary file as \startTEXpage \startformula formula \stopformula \stopTEXpage. Lilypond and gnuplot modules already do something similar. Then process the temporary tex file. You will get a pdf file with one formula on each page. Convert each page into png, and use some lisp magic to insert the image at appropriate places in the buffer. Obviously I am missing a lot of things. But, am I correct in assuming that from the context end, the problem is simple? Thank you for your insight... Let me become more familiar with the emacs and Context first, then we can take a closer look at elisp preview-latex... Sincerely, Gour ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:20:41 +0100 Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gour, I'm the guy who created etexshow. I recognize your name from the past ;) No there is not. I don't use emacs any more (for ConTeXt). :-( I will take a look at texshow.contextgarden.net in the first quarter of 2008; perhaps I'll have a look at etexshow at the same time. Thanks a lot. And if you are interested in AUCTeX development, don't hesitate. elisp is not that hard and very, very interesting to program in. A lot of people will be greatful! I'll try my best...the problem is that I only have 24hrs per day ;) Sincerely, Gour ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Run context with a custom module, which writes the content of each \startformula formula \stopformula into a temporary file as \startTEXpage \startformula formula \stopformula \stopTEXpage. Lilypond and gnuplot modules already do something similar. Then process the temporary tex file. You will get a pdf file with one formula on each page. Convert each page into png, and use some lisp magic to insert the image at appropriate places in the buffer. Obviously I am missing a lot of things. But, am I correct in assuming that from the context end, the problem is simple? that's what i meant with components (formulas and such) and that should be doable (i just wonder why previewing snippets of pdf is no option so that you can avoid the png stage) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] preview-context
Hi! I've asked on auctex ml about the prospects of getting preview-context, similar to preview-latex and here is the reply: There are no ConTeXt users among the active developers (actually, there is not even much activity in the LaTeX area, but the status quo is rather more advanced). As long as that does not change, I don't see much of a point to talk vapour. (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.auctex.general/2387) Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context withing AUCTeX package? otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? Sincerely, Gour signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context withing AUCTeX package? I'm interested in improved Context support in Auctex in general. I am a recent convert to Context, using it for my first project at the moment. I find much of the discussion on this list to be over my head still. I have a very little experence programming emacs lisp but have not practised it for 3 or 4 years. Currently I have implemented one or two things I wanted in the form of (not very good!) emacs skeletons. I'll help as much as I can, even if only with testing. otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? Have you seen http://texshow.contextgarden.net/ ? I don't know how up to date it is. Cheers, Roger ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Hi Gour, I'm the guy who created etexshow. otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? No there is not. I don't use emacs any more (for ConTeXt). I will take a look at texshow.contextgarden.net in the first quarter of 2008; perhaps I'll have a look at etexshow at the same time. And if you are interested in AUCTeX development, don't hesitate. elisp is not that hard and very, very interesting to program in. A lot of people will be greatful! Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
Le 23 décembre à 12:48:39 Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if | there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context | withing AUCTeX package? Well, I certainly am interested! -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Hans Hagen wrote: Gour wrote: Hi! I've asked on auctex ml about the prospects of getting preview-context, similar to preview-latex and here is the reply: There are no ConTeXt users among the active developers (actually, there is not even much activity in the LaTeX area, but the status quo is rather more advanced). As long as that does not change, I don't see much of a point to talk vapour. (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.auctex.general/2387) Since I plan to move to ConTeXt using AUCTeX, I'm interested to hear if there is some interest here (amongst emacs users) to have preview-context withing AUCTeX package? otoh, I'm interested if there is newer version of etexshow (Browser for ConTeXt commands) ? in my opinion previewing contradicts symbolic markup (apart maybe from special subconstructs); anyhow, because context sometimes relies on multipass info, previewing is no option unless on fast machines I disagree. I was grately impressed by preview-latex when I tried it (around 2 years ago), so much so that I even considered moving to emacs from vim. It is extremely useful for mathematics and images: you can see the typeset result rather than a bunch of code. This means that you can proofread in the editor rather than a pdf (or dvi) reader. What is needed for an improved support of preview-latex in context? Last time I looked into preview.sty, I could not understand how it works. If I were to do the same thing, this is how I would do it. Run context with a custom module, which writes the content of each \startformula formula \stopformula into a temporary file as \startTEXpage \startformula formula \stopformula \stopTEXpage. Lilypond and gnuplot modules already do something similar. Then process the temporary tex file. You will get a pdf file with one formula on each page. Convert each page into png, and use some lisp magic to insert the image at appropriate places in the buffer. Obviously I am missing a lot of things. But, am I correct in assuming that from the context end, the problem is simple? Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] preview-context
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:16:04 -0330 Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in improved Context support in Auctex in general. I am a recent convert to Context, using it for my first project at the moment. I find much of the discussion on this list to be over my head still. I was playing with ConTeXt some years ago, so now I can be called an recent re-convert :-) I have a very little experence programming emacs lisp but have not practised it for 3 or 4 years. Currently I have implemented one or two things I wanted in the form of (not very good!) emacs skeletons. I'll help as much as I can, even if only with testing. Being quite new with emacs itself, I've taken a brief look at elisp-intro manual...will go more deeply and I'm ready to help. Sincerely, Gour ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
