Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
I think using a definition like \question (or \pregunta if we use a spanish keyword) would be useful. ciroOn 12/26/05, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:>> >> How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side>> down?>> >> also>> >> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up- >> side down?>> >> thank you>>> Better in matters of logical markup would be a definition like> \quotation, say \exclamation or \question,> but I don't know if there are languages other than Spanish that need > additional signs/formatting for those...>interesting suggestion, we can use the delimited text mechanism for it(core-mis); what do the spanish users think of if?Hans___ ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nlhttp://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? >> also >> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up- side down? >> thank you Better in matters of logical markup would be a definition like \quotation, say \exclamation or \question, but I don't know if there are languages other than Spanish that need additional signs/formatting for those... interesting suggestion, we can use the delimited text mechanism for it (core-mis); what do the spanish users think of if? Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
On 12/24/05, Ciro Soto wrote:
> I didn't understand Hans's instructions. What should I do?
Try this:
% this will be added into ConTeXt, so you can leave it out next time
%%%
\startlanguagespecifics[es]
\definetextmodediscretionary ? {\prewordbreak\questiondown}
\definetextmodediscretionary ! {\prewordbreak\exclamdown}
\stoplanguagespecifics
%%%
% an example of the usage:
\mainlanguage[es]
\starttext
|!|Feliz Navidad!
\stoptext
> On 12/23/05, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > >\enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well
> > >(depending on editor)
> > >\starttext
> > >You can write \exclamdown\ or ¡ and \questiondown\ or ¿
> > >\stoptext
> > >
> > >
> > that's not comfortable for spanish users, so ... let's hook it into
> > specifics:
I don't know the Spanish habits. I thought that they usually simply
hit the proper symbol on their keyboards, but I agree that it's nice
to have an "ascii" way to get them.
> > \startlanguagespecifics[es]
> > \definetextmodediscretionary ?
> {\prewordbreak\questiondown}
> > \definetextmodediscretionary !
> {\prewordbreak\exclamdown}
> > \stoplanguagespecifics
> > \mainlanguage[es] Hey Mojca, does this look better|?|
|?|I didn't manage to catch the difference in line-breaking algorithm,
but aren't those turned quotation marks at the beginning of the
sentence?
(like \exclamdown\prewordbreak, but as I said - I don't know if it
makes any difference at all)
> > i'll add this to the distribution
So don't forget to mention it in the new manual as well ;)
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
>> How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? >> also >> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up- side down? >> thank you Better in matters of logical markup would be a definition like \quotation, say \exclamation or \question, but I don't know if there are languages other than Spanish that need additional signs/formatting for those... Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
I didn't understand Hans's instructions. What should I do?
Mojka's solution worked fine.
I used
\def\qd{\questiondown}
to shorten the keyword.
c
On 12/23/05, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:>Ciro Soto wrote:Hi team: How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down?>> also>> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down?
>> thank you>> ciro>>\enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well>(depending on editor)>\starttext>You can write \exclamdown\ or � and \questiondown\ or �
>\stoptext>>that's not comfortable for spanish users, so ... let's hook it intospecifics:\starttext\startlanguagespecifics[fr]\definetextmodediscretionary :{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{:}:}
\definetextmodediscretionary ;{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{;};}\definetextmodediscretionary ?{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{?}?}\definetextmodediscretionary !
{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{!}!}\stoplanguagespecifics% goes to enco-ffr\startlanguagespecifics[es]\definetextmodediscretionary ? {\prewordbreak\questiondown}
\definetextmodediscretionary ! {\prewordbreak\exclamdown}\stoplanguagespecificsspanish|?| spanish|!|\hyphenatedword{\es spanish|?|\relax}\hyphenatedword{\es spanish|!|\relax}\hyphenatedword{spanish|?|\relax}
\hyphenatedword{spanish|!|\relax}\hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|?|\relax}\hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|!|\relax}\stoptext\mainlanguage[es] Hey Mojca, does this look better|?|(the |??| is always available)
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Ciro Soto wrote:
Hi team:
How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down?
also
How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down?
thank you
ciro
\enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well
(depending on editor)
\starttext
You can write \exclamdown\ or � and \questiondown\ or �
\stoptext
that's not comfortable for spanish users, so ... let's hook it into
specifics:
\starttext
\startlanguagespecifics[fr]
\definetextmodediscretionary :
{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{:}:}
\definetextmodediscretionary ;
{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{;};}
\definetextmodediscretionary ?
{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{?}?}
\definetextmodediscretionary !
{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{!}!}
\stoplanguagespecifics
% goes to enco-ffr
\startlanguagespecifics[es]
\definetextmodediscretionary ? {\prewordbreak\questiondown}
\definetextmodediscretionary ! {\prewordbreak\exclamdown}
\stoplanguagespecifics
spanish|?| spanish|!|
\hyphenatedword{\es spanish|?|\relax}
\hyphenatedword{\es spanish|!|\relax}
\hyphenatedword{spanish|?|\relax}
\hyphenatedword{spanish|!|\relax}
\hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|?|\relax}
\hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|!|\relax}
\stoptext
\mainlanguage[es] Hey Mojca, does this look better|?|
(the |??| is always available)
i'll add this to the distribution
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Ciro Soto wrote: > Hi team: > > How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? > also > How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down? > thank you > ciro \enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well (depending on editor) \starttext You can write \exclamdown\ or ¡ and \questiondown\ or ¿ \stoptext Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Hi team: How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? also How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down? thank you ciro ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
