Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
> > It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
> > marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
> > place rather than throughout the document.
>
> Now why the heck aren't those commands mentioned anywhere in "Context
> - An Excursion"?
I remembered seeing these commands somewhere, so I searched in the
wiki and found them:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Basic_Text_Formatting
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster > 2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster > >> > I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, >> but ` not. >> > I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the >> best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? >> >> >> How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the >> used TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating >> System. >> > > I work with minimals. How do I get the list? > > > Look into the fonts folders. > I suppose you mean: texmf/fonts/? There I see: drwxrwxr-x 5 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 afm drwxrwxr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 enc drwxrwxr-x 4 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 map drwxr-xr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 19 jan 2009 misc drwxrwxr-x 5 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 opentype drwxrwxr-x 5 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 tfm drwxrwxr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 9 okt 12:42 truetype drwxrwxr-x 7 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2008 type1 drwxr-xr-x 3 cecil users 4,0K 28 jan 2009 vf > We can make a list of the available fonts with their typescripts/typefaces > and put them on the wiki. > Would be a good idea. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster
> It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
>
> marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
>> place rather than throughout the document.
>>
>
> It looks like \quotation does what I want, but \quote puts the opening
> quote low and the wrong way around. How can I change this? I find:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupquote
> not very helpful.
>
>
> \setuplanguage
> []
> [leftquote=...,
>rightquote=...,
>leftquotation=...,
>rightquotation=...]
>
Works. Thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
Am 23.03.2011 um 21:02 schrieb Cecil Westerhof: > 2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster > > I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` > > not. > > I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best > > (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? > > > How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the > used TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating > System. > > I work with minimals. How do I get the list? Look into the fonts folders. We can make a list of the available fonts with their typescripts/typefaces and put them on the wiki. There is also a list in Hans/Tacos new fonts manual. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
Am 23.03.2011 um 21:13 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
> 2011/3/23 Pontus Lurcock
> > I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
>
> It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
> marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
> place rather than throughout the document.
>
> It looks like \quotation does what I want, but \quote puts the opening quote
> low and the wrong way around. How can I change this? I find:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupquote
> not very helpful.
\setuplanguage
[]
[leftquote=...,
rightquote=...,
leftquotation=...,
rightquotation=...]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Pontus Lurcock
> > I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
>
> It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
> marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
> place rather than throughout the document.
>
It looks like \quotation does what I want, but \quote puts the opening quote
low and the wrong way around. How can I change this? I find:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupquote
not very helpful.
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Pontus Lurcock
> On Wed 23 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
> > I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
>
> It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
> marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
> place rather than throughout the document.
>
Did not know that. Am I going to do.
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed 23 Mar 2011, mathew wrote: > Now why the heck aren't those commands mentioned anywhere in "Context > - An Excursion"? Not sure, but the Excursion is quite old and probably not intended to be comprehensive. They're covered in the reference manual. Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 Wolfgang Schuster > > I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but > ` not. > > I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the > best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? > > > How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the > used TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating > System. > I work with minimals. How do I get the list? > I made a short document with a few fonts: http://d.pr/h5tE > I choose (based on your document) ‘PT Serif’ for the moment. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:49, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
> It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
> marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
> place rather than throughout the document.
Now why the heck aren't those commands mentioned anywhere in "Context
- An Excursion"?
mathew
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed 23 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again.
It's advisable to use \quote{...} or \quotation{...} for quotation
marks. That way, if you do need to change them, you only do it in one
place rather than throughout the document.
Pont
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
Am 23.03.2011 um 17:23 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
> I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but `
> not.
> I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best
> (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed?
How do you define a standard font, the list of available differes with the used
TeX distribution (TeX Live or context minimals) and your Openrating System.
I made a short document with a few fonts: http://d.pr/h5tE
Source:
\newcounter\FontTestCounter
\define[1]\FontTest
{\increment\FontTestCounter
\definetypeface[mainface-\FontTestCounter][rm][specserif][#1]
\switchtobodyfont[mainface-\FontTestCounter]
\title{#1}
\startpacked
` Backtick\par
' Apostrophe\par
‘ Open curly quote\par
’ Close curly quote\par
- hyphen\par
– en dash\par
— em dash
\stoppacked
\blank
“Quote” and „quote“ and «more quotes»}
\starttext
\FontTest{Aller}
…
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
2011/3/23 mathew > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:23, Cecil Westerhof > wrote: > > I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but > ` > > not. > > I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the > best > > (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? > > I think your expectations may be at fault. > You are completely right. That is why a mailing list like this is useful. ;-} > In ConTeXt, ` is not "open quote", it is backtick. If you want an open > quote, you have to type one. > > Typeset this text to see what I mean: > > \starttext > ` Backtick\crlf > ' Apostrophe\crlf > ‘ Open curly quote\crlf > ’ Close curly quote > \stoptext > > If you actually want backtick, perhaps you could say what you think is > wrong with it in Palatino? > Wrong is maybe not the correct word, but when compiling this code: \starttext ` Backtick\crlf ' Apostrophe\crlf ‘ Open curly quote\crlf ’ Close curly quote ‘some quoted text’ “some doublequoted text” \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] ‘some quoted text’ “some doublequoted text” \stoptext Then I find the font from palatino better looking, but the default quotes better as the palatino's. I have to change all my ‘quotes’ again. Attached my Xmopdmap.extra which incorperates these single and double quotes. -- Cecil Westerhof Xmodmap.extra Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:23, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` > not. > I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best > (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? I think your expectations may be at fault. In ConTeXt, ` is not "open quote", it is backtick. If you want an open quote, you have to type one. Typeset this text to see what I mean: \starttext ` Backtick\crlf ' Apostrophe\crlf ‘ Open curly quote\crlf ’ Close curly quote \stoptext If you actually want backtick, perhaps you could say what you think is wrong with it in Palatino? mathew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Which standard installed font displays ' and ` good
I am still experimenting. With the default ' is reasonably displayed, but ` not. I liked palatino, but then even ' is not displayed nicely. What is the best (standard installed) font where both ' and ` are good displayed? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
