Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
On 5/27/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
Otared Kavian wrote:
As told above, ConTeXt is called from within TeXShop, but doing
texexec eth-hans-2.tex --pdf
in a Terminal window gives the same result (I apologize for not being
still up dto date with texmfstart... :-) )
I wanted to let you know that I am gathering a number of issues or
ConTeXt things which do not work properly when ConTeXt is used
together with XeTeX. Should I send them directly to you and Taco or
post each problem separately on the list?
ok, what you see happen in 'non xetex context' is ok,
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
will fail because pdftex is *not* utf and only sees 8 bit characters, so
you can only set the catcodes 0-255
That's true for pdftex, but XeTeX should handle them OK (assuming that
you're using the proper encoding in your file). If you change ^^f0 to
^^f1 or whatever other number, it works without any problems. It's
just ^^f0 that's causing problems for some weird reason. I don't know
if this is XeTeX or ConTeX bug (or the wrong usage perhaps, but it was
Jonathat who sent this example, only for other letters).
\catcode `number=number
and in your case `Ã will become a number ° but ° not
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcodeð=\active \defð{^^F0}
\egroup
could work (watch out: no `) but again, \catcode16 bit number is not
accepted by regular 8 bit tex
Hans, in what encoding are you sending/using this? Seems like UTF-8
file opened as if it was latin1 (might be the same).
You should use utf-8-encoded eth literally, not two different character
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^f0} ð
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
Otared Kavian wrote:
As told above, ConTeXt is called from within TeXShop, but doing
texexec eth-hans-2.tex --pdf
in a Terminal window gives the same result (I apologize for not being
still up dto date with texmfstart... :-) )
I wanted to let you know that I am gathering a number of issues or
ConTeXt things which do not work properly when ConTeXt is used
together with XeTeX. Should I send them directly to you and Taco or
post each problem separately on the list?
ok, what you see happen in 'non xetex context' is ok,
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
will fail because pdftex is *not* utf and only sees 8 bit characters, so
you can only set the catcodes 0-255
\catcode `number=number
and in your case `Ã will become a number ° but ° not
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcodeð=\active \defð{^^F0}
\egroup
could work (watch out: no `) but again, \catcode16 bit number is not
accepted by regular 8 bit tex
so, a the moment, what you observe is ok; at the end of this year, in a
32 bit pdftex, things may work different
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
Otared Kavian wrote:
On 24 mai 2006, at 10:07, Hans Hagen wrote:
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall�
\tracingall�
Testing... �
and what does�
\show �
return? and what�
Testing... �aaa
Hans�
Hi Hans,
This file:
%% eth-hans-1.tex
\starttext
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall
Testing... �
\catcode`�=\active \def�{^^F0}
\tracingall
Testing... �
and what does
%\show �
return? and what
Testing... �aaa
Hans
\stoptext
%% end eth-hans-1.tex
typeset with XeConTeXt gives a PDF where again one has Testing...��
in the first occurence, and then Testing... � 0, and the process
takes some 41 seconds...
If the above file is typeset with ConTeXt alone it stops with the
error message:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
∞
l.9 \catcode`√∞
=\active \def√∞{^^F0}
so, it looks like the `charchar is not seen as a combination
how did the complete test file look? what does the following say:
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcode`�=\active \def�{^^F0}
\egroup
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
On 26 mai 2006, at 12:10, Hans Hagen wrote:
Otared Kavian wrote:
On 24 mai 2006, at 10:07, Hans Hagen wrote:
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall�
\tracingall�
Testing... �
and what does�
\show �
return? and what�
Testing... �aaa
Hans�
Hi Hans,
This file:
%% eth-hans-1.tex
\starttext
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall
Testing... �
\catcode`�=\active \def�{^^F0}
\tracingall
Testing... �
and what does
%\show �
return? and what
Testing... �aaa
Hans
\stoptext
%% end eth-hans-1.tex
typeset with XeConTeXt gives a PDF where again one has
Testing...��
in the first occurence, and then Testing... � 0, and the process
takes some 41 seconds...
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---
If the above file is typeset with ConTeXt alone it stops with the
error message:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
∞
l.9 \catcode`√∞
=\active \def√∞{^^F0}
so, it looks like the `charchar is not seen as a combination
how did the complete test file look? what does the following say:
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcode`�=\active \def�{^^F0}
\egroup
Hi Hans,
Typesetting the following with XeConTeXt:
%% eth-hans-2.tex
\starttext
Testing... ð
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
\egroup
Testing... ð
\stoptext
gives what is intended, that is a PDF with twice Testing... ð.
However the above cannot be typeset with ConTeXt alone, since an
error is diagnosed saying
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
∞
l.11 \catcode`√∞
=\active \def√∞{^^F0}
?
Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
Otared Kavian wrote:
On 26 mai 2006, at 12:10, Hans Hagen wrote:
Otared Kavian wrote:
On 24 mai 2006, at 10:07, Hans Hagen wrote:
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall�
\tracingall�
Testing... �
and what does�
\show �
return? and what�
Testing... �aaa
Hans�
Hi Hans,
This file:
%% eth-hans-1.tex
\starttext
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall
Testing... �
\catcode`�=\active \def�{^^F0}
\tracingall
Testing... �
and what does
%\show �
return? and what
Testing... �aaa
Hans
\stoptext
%% end eth-hans-1.tex
typeset with XeConTeXt gives a PDF where again one has
Testing...��
in the first occurence, and then Testing... � 0, and the process
takes some 41 seconds...
-
---
If the above file is typeset with ConTeXt alone it stops with the
error message:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
∞
l.9 \catcode`√∞
=\active \def√∞{^^F0}
so, it looks like the `charchar is not seen as a combination
how did the complete test file look? what does the following say:
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcode`�=\active \def�{^^F0}
\egroup
Hi Hans,
Typesetting the following with XeConTeXt:
%% eth-hans-2.tex
\starttext
Testing... ð
\bgroup
\let\unicodechar\unicodenumber
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
\egroup
Testing... ð
\stoptext
gives what is intended, that is a PDF with twice Testing... ð.
However the above cannot be typeset with ConTeXt alone, since an
error is diagnosed saying
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
∞
l.11 \catcode`√∞
=\active \def√∞{^^F0}
?
i need a bit more info:
= the file eth-hans2.tex (zipped!)
= how you call it, yopu say that it works ok with xecontext, so what do
you mean with 'context alone'
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
Hi Mojca,
Trying your minimal file on my Mac OS X, with XeConTeXt or with plain
XeTeX, I observe the same hanging...
However, the following, taken out of an example sent to you by
Jonathan K., works fine with both (indeed commenting out \starttext
and \stoptext in plain XeTeX):
\starttext
\font\lmec = ec-lmr10 at 36 pt
\lmec
Testing... ð
Testing... ^^F0
\catcode`č=\active \defč{^^a3}
\catcode`š=\active \defš{^^b2}
\catcode`ž=\active \defž{^^ba}
Testing... čšž
\stoptext
while the following results in a PDF file with Testing... ° 0
\starttext
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
Testing... ð
\stoptext
Needless to tell you that all this seems extremely obscure to me...
Best regards: OK
On 23 mai 2006, at 10:24, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
If I try to compile the folllowing code with XeTeX, it hangs (as if
it was waiting for further input):
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^f0} % only hangs for F0, other
numbers are OK
\starttext
ð
\stoptext
I didn't manage to test the same example with plain XeTeX (tetex is
a bit misconfigured since the standalone ConTeXt is installed), but
Jonathan says that it runs OK on his computer. Is my system broken
again or are some other black forces working anywhere?
Thanks,
Mojca
eth.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
Otared Kavian wrote:
Hi Mojca,
Trying your minimal file on my Mac OS X, with XeConTeXt or with plain
XeTeX, I observe the same hanging...
However, the following, taken out of an example sent to you by
Jonathan K., works fine with both (indeed commenting out \starttext
and \stoptext in plain XeTeX):
\starttext
\font\lmec = ec-lmr10 at 36 pt
\lmec
Testing... ð
Testing... ^^F0
\catcode`č=\active \defč{^^a3}
\catcode`š=\active \defš{^^b2}
\catcode`ž=\active \defž{^^ba}
Testing... čšž
\stoptext
while the following results in a PDF file with Testing... ° 0
\starttext
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
Testing... ð
\stoptext
Needless to tell you that all this seems extremely obscure to me...
what do you get when you run that with \tracingall
\tracingall
Testing... ð
and what does
\show ð
return? and what
Testing... ðaaa
Hans
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[NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
If I try to compile the folllowing code with XeTeX, it hangs (as if
it was waiting for further input):
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^f0} % only hangs for F0, other numbers are OK
\starttext
ð
\stoptext
I didn't manage to test the same example with plain XeTeX (tetex is
a bit misconfigured since the standalone ConTeXt is installed), but
Jonathan says that it runs OK on his computer. Is my system broken
again or are some other black forces working anywhere?
Thanks,
Mojca
eth.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX hangs
Hi Mojca,
Trying your minimal file on my Mac OS X, with XeConTeXt or with plain
XeTeX, I observe the same hanging...
However, the following, taken out of an example sent to you by
Jonathan K., works fine with both (indeed commenting out \starttext
and \stoptext in plain XeTeX):
\starttext
\font\lmec = ec-lmr10 at 36 pt
\lmec
Testing... ð
Testing... ^^F0
\catcode`č=\active \defč{^^a3}
\catcode`š=\active \defš{^^b2}
\catcode`ž=\active \defž{^^ba}
Testing... čšž
\stoptext
while the following results in a PDF file with Testing... ° 0
\starttext
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^F0}
Testing... ð
\stoptext
Needless to tell you that all this seems extremely obscure to me...
Best regards: OK
On 23 mai 2006, at 10:24, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
If I try to compile the folllowing code with XeTeX, it hangs (as if
it was waiting for further input):
\catcode`ð=\active \defð{^^f0} % only hangs for F0, other
numbers are OK
\starttext
ð
\stoptext
I didn't manage to test the same example with plain XeTeX (tetex is
a bit misconfigured since the standalone ConTeXt is installed), but
Jonathan says that it runs OK on his computer. Is my system broken
again or are some other black forces working anywhere?
Thanks,
Mojca
eth.tex
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