Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Am 13.02.2011 um 04:38 schrieb Tom:
\usetypescriptfile[type-one]
\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
TexLive 2010 MKII on a PC
I'm completely flummoxed as how to use fonts from different families.
Follows is an attempt to use Pallatino (rm) for the text of a book,
Iwono-heavy for chapter titles (sansbold), Iwona-light (sans) for page
headers (intended but not implemented), and Chancery (cg) for the
dedication. The only font that appears to come out right are the chapter
titles and I can't change their size without changing the size of the text
font. I apparently haven't found the right manual yet or am too stupid to
understand what must be a relatively simple concept.
You can define multiple typefaces.
% engine=pdftex
% fonts
\definetypeface [mainface] [rm] [serif] [palatino][default]
\definetypeface [mainface] [ss] [sans] [iwona-heavy] [default]
\definetypeface [mainface] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [mainface] [mm] [math] [palatino][default]
\definetypeface [pagenumber] [ss] [sans] [iwona-light] [default]
\definetypeface [dedication] [rm] [serif] [chancery] [default]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
% headings
\definehead [intro] [chapter]
\definehead [dedication][chapter]
\setuphead[chapter][style=\ss\bfa,alternative=middle]
\setuphead[intro][number=no]
\setuphead[dedication][number=no,style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication,16pt]}]
\definecombinedlist [content][intro,chapter,section]
% pagenumbers
\setuppagenumbering[style={\switchtobodyfont[pagenumber]}]
\starttext
\dedication{Dedication}
\completecontent
\intro{Introduction - Ag}
\input knuth
\chapter{First chapter - Ag}
\input knuth
\chapter{Second Chapter - Ag}
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Dear Wolfgang, I tested your example on the multiple families of fonts. It works nicely. I have a few question. There is no toc generated, just only head Contents appeared. Since Intro and dedication are counted as chapters, the first chapter numbered 3. How to start chapter number from 1 for the first chapter? Thank you. Best regards, Dalyoung ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Am 13.02.2011 um 13:43 schrieb Jeong Dalyoung: Dear Wolfgang, I tested your example on the multiple families of fonts. It works nicely. I have a few question. There is no toc generated, just only head Contents appeared. Since Intro and dedication are counted as chapters, the first chapter numbered 3. How to start chapter number from 1 for the first chapter? Replace “number=no” with “incrementnumber=no”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Thank you very much, Wolfgang. The time zone difference is helpful
sometimes. I went to bed last night very frustrated and woke up this morning
to find your solution in my inbox. It is also good to see that your
assistance to me has also helped someone else. I do have a couple of
questions:
1. Why aren't the \usetypescriptfile commands necessary?
2. It never occurred to me to consider the dedication as a separate chapter.
Logically, it is but is the inverse of other chapters, sort of, in that the
chapter title isn't normally displayed and the body of the chapter is
printed in a different font than are the other chapters.
Tom Benjey
717-258-9733 voice
717-243-0074 fax
blog: www.TomBenjey.com
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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Am 13.02.2011 um 04:38 schrieb Tom:
\usetypescriptfile[type-one]
\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
TexLive 2010 MKII on a PC
I'm completely flummoxed as how to use fonts from different families.
Follows is an attempt to use Pallatino (rm) for the text of a book,
Iwono-heavy for chapter titles (sansbold), Iwona-light (sans) for page
headers (intended but not implemented), and Chancery (cg) for the
dedication. The only font that appears to come out right are the chapter
titles and I can't change their size without changing the size of the text
font. I apparently haven't found the right manual yet or am too stupid to
understand what must be a relatively simple concept.
You can define multiple typefaces.
% engine=pdftex
% fonts
\definetypeface [mainface] [rm] [serif] [palatino][default]
\definetypeface [mainface] [ss] [sans] [iwona-heavy] [default]
\definetypeface [mainface] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [mainface] [mm] [math] [palatino][default]
\definetypeface [pagenumber] [ss] [sans] [iwona-light] [default]
\definetypeface [dedication] [rm] [serif] [chancery] [default]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
% headings
\definehead [intro] [chapter]
\definehead [dedication][chapter]
\setuphead[chapter][style=\ss\bfa,alternative=middle]
\setuphead[intro][number=no]
\setuphead[dedication][number=no,style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication,16pt]}]
\definecombinedlist [content][intro,chapter,section]
% pagenumbers
\setuppagenumbering[style={\switchtobodyfont[pagenumber]}]
\starttext
\dedication{Dedication}
\completecontent
\intro{Introduction - Ag}
\input knuth
\chapter{First chapter - Ag}
\input knuth
\chapter{Second Chapter - Ag}
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Am 13.02.2011 um 14:23 schrieb Tom:
Thank you very much, Wolfgang. The time zone difference is helpful
sometimes. I went to bed last night very frustrated and woke up this morning
to find your solution in my inbox. It is also good to see that your
assistance to me has also helped someone else. I do have a couple of
questions:
1. Why aren't the \usetypescriptfile commands necessary?
ConTeXt already load there files to let you use the palatino etc. fonts
2. It never occurred to me to consider the dedication as a separate chapter.
Logically, it is but is the inverse of other chapters, sort of, in that the
chapter title isn't normally displayed and the body of the chapter is
printed in a different font than are the other chapters.
Add this to my example:
\definestartstop[dedication][style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication]}]
You can now write in your document
\dedication{...}
and
\startdedeication
...
\stopdedication
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
This should be my last question on this topic. I want to center the
dedication but align=middle (or center) and alternative=middle added to
\definestartstop[dedication] seem to have no effect. I can't seem to find a
simple way to center an odd line of paragraph of text. Using a frame seems
like using a sledgehammer to pound a tack.
Tom Benjey
717-258-9733 voice
717-243-0074 fax
blog: www.TomBenjey.com
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From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On
Behalf Of Wolfgang Schuster
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Am 13.02.2011 um 14:23 schrieb Tom:
Thank you very much, Wolfgang. The time zone difference is helpful
sometimes. I went to bed last night very frustrated and woke up this
morning
to find your solution in my inbox. It is also good to see that your
assistance to me has also helped someone else. I do have a couple of
questions:
1. Why aren't the \usetypescriptfile commands necessary?
ConTeXt already load there files to let you use the palatino etc. fonts
2. It never occurred to me to consider the dedication as a separate
chapter.
Logically, it is but is the inverse of other chapters, sort of, in that
the
chapter title isn't normally displayed and the body of the chapter is
printed in a different font than are the other chapters.
Add this to my example:
\definestartstop[dedication][style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication]}]
You can now write in your document
\dedication{...}
and
\startdedeication
...
\stopdedication
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Am 13.02.2011 um 15:39 schrieb Tom:
This should be my last question on this topic. I want to center the
dedication but align=middle (or center) and alternative=middle added to
\definestartstop[dedication] seem to have no effect. I can't seem to find a
simple way to center an odd line of paragraph of text. Using a frame seems
like using a sledgehammer to pound a tack.
Why not?
\defineframedtext
[dedication]
[frame=off,
align=middle,
style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication]},
width=\textwidth]
You can also \setupalign to \definestartstop:
\definestartstop
[dedication]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication]},
commands={\setupalign[middle]}]
Another option for MkIV (only) is the annotation module:
\defineannotation
[dedication]
[style={\switchtobodyfont[dedication]},
align=middle]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
Dear Wolfgang, It is nicely working. Chapter numbers and contents are look good. Thank you. Best regards, Dalyoung ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Using fonts from multiple families
\usetypescriptfile[type-one]
\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
TexLive 2010 MKII on a PC
I'm completely flummoxed as how to use fonts from different families.
Follows is an attempt to use Pallatino (rm) for the text of a book,
Iwono-heavy for chapter titles (sansbold), Iwona-light (sans) for page
headers (intended but not implemented), and Chancery (cg) for the
dedication. The only font that appears to come out right are the chapter
titles and I can't change their size without changing the size of the text
font. I apparently haven't found the right manual yet or am too stupid to
understand what must be a relatively simple concept.
\starttypescript [BookFont][texnansi,ec,qx,t5,default]
\definetypeface[BookFont][rm][serif][pallatino][default] %text body
\definetypeface[BookFont][ss][sans][iwona-light][default] %page headers
\definetypeface[BookFont][ss][sansbold][iwona-heavy][default] %chapters
\definetypeface[BookFont][tt][type][postscript][default] %embedded code
\definetypeface[BookFont][cg][calligraphic][chancery][default] %dedic.
\definetypeface[BookFont][mm][math][pallatino][default] %math
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[BookFont][ec]
\setupbodyfont[BookFont,12pt]
\switchtobodyfont[serif]
\setuphead [chapter][style=sansbold, alternative=middle]
\definehead [intro][chapter]
\setuphead [intro][number=no]
\definecombinedlist [content][intro,chapter,section]
\setuphead[chapter][style=sansbold]
\starttext
{\cg Dedication}
\page
\completecontent
\intro{Introduction - Ag}
\input knuth
\chapter{First chapter - Ag}
\input knuth
\chapter{Second Chapter - Ag}
\input Knuth
\stoptext
Tom Benjey
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From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On
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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:56 PM
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Table of Contents issues
Am 12.02.2011 um 18:12 schrieb Tom:
Using a very recent download of TexLive 2010 (MKII) on my PC, my success
generating a useful table of contents has been somewhat limited.
I can't figure out how to put the title, Contents, in the font I desire.
The various parameters I found in the documentation affect the chapter
titles and the page numbers but nothing I've found allows me to control
the
title of the ToC. What am I overlooking?
I would also like for the unnumbered chapter titles, such as
introduction
or preface, to align with the other chapter titles, not with their
numbers.
Aligntitle seems to have no effect on anything from what I have seen.
\setuphead[chapter][style=sansbold]
\definehead[intro][chapter]
\setuphead [intro][number=no]
\definecombinedlist[content][intro,chapter,section]
\setupcombinedlist [content][style=sansbold]
\starttext
\completecontent
\intro{Introduction}
\input knuth
\chapter{First chapter}
\input knuth
\chapter{Second Chapter}
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Using fonts of an existing TeX-Installation
Dear readers of this list, I have a working recent (La)TeX and ConTeXt installation. I have added several commercial PostScript fonts and can use them with (La)TeX. The font files of those fonts are in directories under texmf-local/fonts (afm, tfm, vf, type1), that is, as suggested by TeXFont manual for ConTeXt. However, following the TeXFont manual for ConTeXt, do I have to reinstall them from scratch for ConTeXt starting with the pfb- and afm-files from texmf-local/fonts/source, or can I use the already distributed pfb- and afm-files? Does a reinstallation interfer with the existing font installation for (La)TeX? Thanks for helpful hints in advance Yours sincerely Tobias Hilbricht -- Dr. Tobias Hilbricht Linopus Satz und Grafik www.linopus.de ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] using fonts -- installation
Dear Contexers, I'm logging in through webmail, so right now I cannot try your suggestions but I will as soon as I get home. I already thank everybody for responding. I am puzzled by this line which Hans wrote: \definetypeface[johanna][rm][serif][palatino][default] Hans further writes that [serif][palatino] is the main typescript filter and that [rm] is mapped on to [serif][palatino] I don't quite grasp this. - Why exactly do I have to refer to [serif][palatino]? - Do you mean that palatino serves as a default which has to be remapped when a new font is installed? - Where is this status of palatino registered? - And why did you chose palatino, rather than another typeface? Thanks again, Robert Rob Ermers wrote: The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my cyrillic font working under context... that message is an indication that you didn't define it as bodyfont for instance: \definetypeface[johanna][rm][serif][palatino][default] will provide \setupbodyfont[johanna,10pt,rm] the combination [serif] [palatino] is the main typescript filter, while [rm] is what it gets mapped onto; [default] concerns the size Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] using fonts
Adam Lindsay wrote: Wolfgang Zillig said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:18:43 +0100: Adam Lindsay wrote: But before that, TeX needs uplr8t.tfm to know how wide characters are so it can put boxes in the right place. but where do I get the tfm or how to create them? Good question. I'll throw it open to the list: Metrics for the urw clone 35 used to be commonly found everywhere. Where have they gone? one time they were under urw, then under urw35, now back under urw if i'm right Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] using fonts
with miktex there is a path C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\urw with some subfolders, but all of them are empty. For example Helvetica is located C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\adobe\helvetic and all files starting with p. I think that was the problem with selecting fonts on my system. Wolfgang Hans Hagen wrote: Adam Lindsay wrote: Wolfgang Zillig said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:18:43 +0100: Adam Lindsay wrote: But before that, TeX needs uplr8t.tfm to know how wide characters are so it can put boxes in the right place. but where do I get the tfm or how to create them? Good question. I'll throw it open to the list: Metrics for the urw clone 35 used to be commonly found everywhere. Where have they gone? one time they were under urw, then under urw35, now back under urw if i'm right Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] using fonts
Wolfgang Zillig said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:15:42 +0100: with miktex there is a path C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\urw with some subfolders, but all of them are empty. For example Helvetica is located C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\adobe\helvetic and all files starting with p. I think that was the problem with selecting fonts on my system. Sigh. me too. This is a recent change in my distro, I think. try adding this line: \usetypescript[adobekb][ec] This causes the mapping from ec-uplr8a: \starttypescript [adobekb] [ec] \definefontsynonym [ec-uplr8a] [pplr8t] [encoding=ec] ...which you should have on your system. Sorry (especially to Patrick!) for being misleading earlier. My head was still in TeXLive mode. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] using fonts
Hello, I think I´mgetting confused with all of the font selection within context. First: I have a miktex environment on on W2K. 1. to change single fonts: \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec] \switchtotypeface[palatino][12pt,rm] results in an error that the font is not found (font: uplr8t) on my system following files are available: uplr8a.afm uplr8v.tfm uplr8v.pfb uplr8a.pfb uplr8v.htf but I think tfm is needed 2. I thought that the default encoding should be texnansi I tried that but context is looking for texnansi-uhvr8a (here for helvet). The font uhvr8a is on my system. 3. should be there some font-switching macros on the system called font-xxx.tex (example font-lbr.tex)? These are missing on my system. I think these are needed forthings like: \setupbodyfont[lbr, sans, 12pt] 4. within miktex there are lucida font files from yandy (lbr.tfm ). Is that a free version of lucida-font? (is that for math? [there is anotherfile called math-lbt.tex in \context\base]) Summary: do I need to get the missing fonts/files and why are they not provided with miktex. Perhaps a change of the distribution is to prefer? (which one) Is there a manual which explains how to change fonts (in a way that a normal user who is new to context can understand it)? Thanks a lot Wolfgang ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] using fonts
Wolfgang Zillig said this at Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:40:24 +0100: Hello, I think I´mgetting confused with all of the font selection within context. Don't worry: it's a bit complicated at first... but it's learn-able (and easier, to my mind, than LaTeX's way of doing things!). First: I have a miktex environment on on W2K. I don't have miktex. But I'll try to teach what I know! 1. to change single fonts: \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec] \switchtotypeface[palatino][12pt,rm] results in an error that the font is not found (font: uplr8t) okay, let's expand through the typescripts a bit: You invoke these typescripts through your typeface definition (primarily; there are others that automatically get triggered): [serif][palatino][name] [serif][palatino][ec] [serif][default] [size] % etc... Serif then gets mapped in type-syn: \starttypescript [serif] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif][Palatino] %... Palatino then gets mapped in type-enc: \starttypescript [serif] [palatino] [texnansi,ec,8r,t5] \definefontsynonym [Palatino][\typefaceencoding- uplr8a][encoding=\typefaceencoding] %... This line gets expanded to: \definefontsynonym [Palatino][ec-uplr8a][encoding=ec] %... ...So at this point, your system would be looking around for ec- uplr8a.tfm, but it's not. You provide a clue as to why not: 2. I thought that the default encoding should be texnansi In the new cont-sys.rme, it's set to ec encoding: \setupencoding [\s!default=ec] ...and the berry type synonyms are invoked: \usetypescript [berry] [\defaultencoding] So the following typescript gets invoked, mapping the above ec-uplr8a: \starttypescript [berry] [ec] \definefontsynonym [ec-uplr8a] [uplr8t] [encoding=ec] That, being the last one in the chain, is what ConTeXt looks for. For those following along at home, the whole chain of name resolution, taking into account the encoding, is therefore: (\rm\tf) Serif Palatino ec-uplr8a uplr8t on my system following files are available: That's quite a mixture of types, below. Can you provide a listing of the .tfm files in fonts/tfm/urw/palatino ? uplr8a.afm (The base Adobe Font Metrics file, which enables you to generate new tfms) uplr8v.tfm uplr8v.pfb (Vietnamese variants of the fonts!) uplr8a.pfb (That's the postscript font file you ultimately want to include in your document.) uplr8v.htf (Irrelevant to our discussion. TeX4ht-related, I think?) Summary: do I need to get the missing fonts/files and why are they not provided with miktex. Perhaps a change of the distribution is to prefer? (which one) Well, I'm wondering where all the tfms have gone on my distribution, as well (gwTeX on the Mac doesn't seem to include 8r or ec/8t metrics, either). It looks like you might have to do a texfont run to build (ConTeXt-named) tfms in order to be useful. It's not all that scary. I gave a rundown of the steps I followed in this primitive MyWay. It might be useful so long as you don't treat it as literal instructions: http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/TexfontExamined.pdf Cheers, adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
