Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 8/3/2017 8:11 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
>
>> that solves the other problem that appeared. What about the one I
>> originally posted in this thread? Is it possible to pause backgrounds
>> on chapter pages?
>
> one of the many ways ...
>
> \definelayer
> [chapter]
> [width=\paperwidth,
>height=\paperheight]
>
> \defineoverlay
> [pagebackground]
> [\directsetup{pagebackground}]
>
> \setupbackgrounds
> [page]
> [background=pagebackground]
>
> \startsetups pagebackground
> \doifelsemode {chapterpage} {
> \setlayer
> [chapter]
> [preset=middle]
> {\scale[width=\textwidth]{CHAPTER}}
> \globaldisablemode[chapterpage]
> } {
> \setlayer
> [chapter]
> [preset=middle]
> {\scale[width=\textwidth]{WHATEVER}}
> }
> \placelayer[chapter]
> \stopsetups
>
> \startsetups chapter:before
> \globalenablemode[chapterpage]
> \stopsetups
>
> \setuphead
> [chapter]
> [before=\setup{chapter:before}]
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{foo} test \page test
> \chapter{bar} test \page test
> \stoptext
>
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Many thanks! It now works as expected. Just if someone finds this
thread in the future, to get the texts into the margin, I ended up
with something like the code below.
/Mikael
\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setuplayout[
%alternative=doublesided,
location=middle,
width=10cm,
backspace=2in,
]
\definelayer
[chapter]
[width=\paperwidth,
height=\paperheight,
location=right]
\defineoverlay
[pagebackground]
[\directsetup{pagebackground}]
\setupbackgrounds
[page]
[background=pagebackground]
\startsetups pagebackground
\doifelsemode {chapterpage} {
\setlayer
[chapter]
[x=\dimexpr\backspace+\textwidth+\rightmargindistance\relax,
y=3in,
location={right,bottom}]
{\getmarking[chapternumber]}
\globaldisablemode[chapterpage]
} {
\setlayer
[chapter]
[x=\dimexpr\backspace+\textwidth+\rightmargindistance\relax,
y=3in,
location={right,bottom}]
{\doifrightpageelse{\getmarking[chapter]}{}}
}
\placelayer[chapter]
\stopsetups
\startsetups chapter:before
\globalenablemode[chapterpage]
\stopsetups
\define[2]\mychaptercommand{\midaligned{#2}}
\setuphead
[chapter]
[align=middle,style=\tfa,align=middle,command=\mychaptercommand,before=\setup{chapter:before}]
\starttext
\chapter{foo} test \page test \page test \page test
\chapter{bar} test \page test \page test \page test
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On 8/3/2017 8:11 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
that solves the other problem that appeared. What about the one I
originally posted in this thread? Is it possible to pause backgrounds
on chapter pages?
one of the many ways ...
\definelayer
[chapter]
[width=\paperwidth,
height=\paperheight]
\defineoverlay
[pagebackground]
[\directsetup{pagebackground}]
\setupbackgrounds
[page]
[background=pagebackground]
\startsetups pagebackground
\doifelsemode {chapterpage} {
\setlayer
[chapter]
[preset=middle]
{\scale[width=\textwidth]{CHAPTER}}
\globaldisablemode[chapterpage]
} {
\setlayer
[chapter]
[preset=middle]
{\scale[width=\textwidth]{WHATEVER}}
}
\placelayer[chapter]
\stopsetups
\startsetups chapter:before
\globalenablemode[chapterpage]
\stopsetups
\setuphead
[chapter]
[before=\setup{chapter:before}]
\starttext
\chapter{foo} test \page test
\chapter{bar} test \page test
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 08/03/2017 06:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> [...] >> \definemargindata >>[margintext:chapter] >>[margintext] >>[width=\outermarginwidth, >> location=outer, >> align=flushouter] >> [...] >> \definemargindata[margintext:section] >>[margintext] >>[width=\innermarginwidth, >> location=inner, >> align=flushinner] > > Many thanks for your reply, Hans. > > I didn’t know that these margin widths and aligments even existed. > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ Hi, that solves the other problem that appeared. What about the one I originally posted in this thread? Is it possible to pause backgrounds on chapter pages? /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On 08/03/2017 06:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > [...] > \definemargindata >[margintext:chapter] >[margintext] >[width=\outermarginwidth, > location=outer, > align=flushouter] > [...] > \definemargindata[margintext:section] >[margintext] >[width=\innermarginwidth, > location=inner, > align=flushinner] Many thanks for your reply, Hans. I didn’t know that these margin widths and aligments even existed. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On 8/3/2017 10:35 AM, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote:
Hi Pablo,
Dealing with the sample you has given to Mikael I find a difficulty on page 2 :
if you replace 'Foo' and 'Bar' (three letters), by 'Introduction' and
'section', see what happen to 'section', page 2.
Here is your MWE :
\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definemargindata[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:chapter]
\definemargindata[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:section]
\setuphead[chapter]
[alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no]
\setuphead[section]
[alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]
\starttext
\chapter{Introduction}
\dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}
\stoptext
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Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Août 2017 22:33:16
Objet: Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist :
I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.
I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in
the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it
for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.
I guess this is a case for setups.
\startsetups[chapterpage]
\setupheadertexts[][][][]
\stopsetups
\setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage]
Something like this, I didn’t check.
\showframe
\setuplayout
[backspace=3cm,
margin=2cm,
width=middle]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definemargindata
[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[width=\outermarginwidth,
location=outer,
align=flushouter]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:chapter]
\definemargindata[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[width=\innermarginwidth,
location=inner,
align=flushinner]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:section]
\setuphead
[chapter]
[alternative=margintext:chapter,
style=\tf,
number=no]
\setuphead
[section]
[alternative=margintext,
style=\tf,
number=no]
\starttext
\chapter{Introduction}
\dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
Hi Pablo,
Dealing with the sample you has given to Mikael I find a difficulty on page 2 :
if you replace 'Foo' and 'Bar' (three letters), by 'Introduction' and
'section', see what happen to 'section', page 2.
Here is your MWE :
\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definemargindata[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:chapter]
\definemargindata[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:section]
\setuphead[chapter]
[alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no]
\setuphead[section]
[alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]
\starttext
\chapter{Introduction}
\dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}
\stoptext
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Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Août 2017 22:33:16
Objet: Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist :
>
>> I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.
>>
>> I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in
>> the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it
>> for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.
>
> I guess this is a case for setups.
>
> \startsetups[chapterpage]
> \setupheadertexts[][][][]
> \stopsetups
>
> \setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage]
>
> Something like this, I didn’t check.
>
>
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Thank you for your answer, Henning.
I am sorry, but it does not work. The problem is that I don't have the
marking text in the header, but in overlays in the margins. I tried to
replace your
\setupheadertexts[][][][]
inside the setup with
\setupbackgrounds[text][rightmargin][background=]
but with no luck. But maybe you are right that one should use setups.
/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist : > >> I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself. >> >> I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in >> the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it >> for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_. > > I guess this is a case for setups. > > \startsetups[chapterpage] > \setupheadertexts[][][][] > \stopsetups > > \setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage] > > Something like this, I didn’t check. > > > Greetlings, Hraban > --- > http://www.fiee.net > http://wiki.contextgarden.net > GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ Thank you for your answer, Henning. I am sorry, but it does not work. The problem is that I don't have the marking text in the header, but in overlays in the margins. I tried to replace your \setupheadertexts[][][][] inside the setup with \setupbackgrounds[text][rightmargin][background=] but with no luck. But maybe you are right that one should use setups. /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist : > I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself. > > I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in > the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it > for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_. I guess this is a case for setups. \startsetups[chapterpage] \setupheadertexts[][][][] \stopsetups \setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage] Something like this, I didn’t check. Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On 08/02/2017 07:28 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > Hi Pablo, > > many thanks for your answer! I think I might have described my issue a > bit vague. Just to clarify: > > I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself. > > I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in > the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it > for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_. Sorry, Mikael, I misunderstood what you needed. I’m afraid I don’t know how to check whether you are in the chapter page or not. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 08/02/2017 12:00 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to print chapter and section titles in the margins, and it
>> works fine, except that the chapter title is also printed on the same
>> page as the chapter starts, which I find unnecessary.
>
> Hi Mikael,
>
> margintext as alternative for \setuphead may be a better approach:
>
> \showframe
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>
> \definemargindata[margintext:chapter]
> [margintext]
> [width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]
>
> \defineheadalternative
> [margintext:chapter]
> [margintext]
> [margintext=margintext:chapter]
>
> \definemargindata[margintext:section]
> [margintext]
> [width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]
>
> \defineheadalternative
> [margintext:section]
> [margintext]
> [margintext=margintext:section]
>
> \setuphead[chapter]
> [alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no]
> \setuphead[section]
> [alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]
>
> \starttext
>
> \chapter{Foo}
> \dorecurse{15}{\section{Bar}\input ward\par}
>
> \stoptext
>
> All this comes from Hans replying to a question of mine some days ago
> and from the last lines from typo-mar.mkiv.
>
> I hope I got it right ;-),
>
> Pablo
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Hi Pablo,
many thanks for your answer! I think I might have described my issue a
bit vague. Just to clarify:
I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.
I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in
the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it
for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.
If you have a copy of Bringhursts book, you know what I mean.
If it is still not clear what I mean please ask me to clarify it further.
/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages
On 08/02/2017 12:00 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to print chapter and section titles in the margins, and it
> works fine, except that the chapter title is also printed on the same
> page as the chapter starts, which I find unnecessary.
Hi Mikael,
margintext as alternative for \setuphead may be a better approach:
\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\definemargindata[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:chapter]
\definemargindata[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]
\defineheadalternative
[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:section]
\setuphead[chapter]
[alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no]
\setuphead[section]
[alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]
\starttext
\chapter{Foo}
\dorecurse{15}{\section{Bar}\input ward\par}
\stoptext
All this comes from Hans replying to a question of mine some days ago
and from the last lines from typo-mar.mkiv.
I hope I got it right ;-),
Pablo
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