Re: [NTG-context] Line breaks, \wordright and hyphenation
On Sunday, October 24, 2021 7:42:59 AM IST kauśika cittūr wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> In short, my question is: why does \wordright cause a line-break when the
> line preceding it breaks with hyphenation and does not otherwise? How to
> avoid it (if at all possible)?
>
> I have this delimitedtext instance called 'amnata' defined as below:
>
> \definemeasure[amnatamargin][3cm]
> \definedelimitedtext
> [amnata]
> \setupdelimitedtext
> [amnata]
> [
> left=,
> right=,
> leftmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
> rightmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
> ]
>
> I am using this to quote paragraph(s) of other authors.
> Since, I also want to indicate where the quote is from, I use this as
> follows:
>
> \startamnata
> ⋮
> \wordright{author}
> \stopamnata
>
> so that the author's name appears at the right-edge of the block.
>
> When the penultimate line inside the block breaks without hyphenation, then
> argument of \wordright is typeset as expected (i.e. in the same line).
>
> On the other hand, when the penultimate line inside this block breaks with
> hyphenation, the argument of \wordright is pushed to the next line even when
> there is enough space for it on the same line.
>
> Here is a sample illustrating this:
>
> \startamnata
> A quote from another author : Suppose that thereisalongwordhere.
> \wordright{– author}
> \stopamnata
>
> \startamnata
> A quote from another author : Here, the text does not cause
> hyphenation in the first line.
> \wordright{– author}
> \stopamnata
>
> [I have attached the output here as an image]
>
> How do I ensure that this does not happen, if that is possible at all? I
> suppose this is expected behaviour but I am not able to understand why.
>
> Thanks,
> kauśika
Dear list,
Although, not a fix for the issue, here is a workaround that allowed me to
achieve what I wanted:
\definedescription[amnata]
\setupdescription[amnata]
[closesymbol={},
closecommand=\wordright,
before=\startamnatanarrower,
after=\stopamnatanarrower]
\startamnata
A quote from another author : Suppose that thereisalongwordhere.
\wordright{– author}
\stopamnata
With this the argument of \wordright appears correctly at the right-edge of
the block. Note that this does not work (as expected) when closesymbol is not
set (or, is empty). Therefore, here I have set closesymbol={U+200B}, which
is the zero width space.
Thanks,
kauśika
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Re: [NTG-context] Line breaks, \wordright and hyphenation
On Sunday, October 24, 2021 5:31:32 PM IST Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10/24/2021 1:08 PM, Benjamin Buchmuller via ntg-context wrote:
> > Maybe
> >
> > \hfill author
>
> It's anyway nicer to use
>
> % \definenarrower
> % [amnata]
> % [left=\measure{amnatamargin},
> %right=\measure{amnatamargin},
> %default={left,right}]
>
> \definenarrower
>[amnata]
>[middle=\measure{amnatamargin}]
>
> but then them, the fact that we get something hyphenated interferes ..
> tricky
Dear Benjamin and Hans,
Thanks for your responses.
I did not mention this in my initial question but I am not exactly doing
'author' in the last line. Instead I usually do
\cite[alternative=authoryears,righttext={Ch. 12}][author1992].
That is, almost always, I need to refer to a specific chapter/page number in
the work. The issue with this and \hfill is that the 'righttext' part gets
nudged into the next line.
Sreeram
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Re: [NTG-context] Line breaks, \wordright and hyphenation
On 10/24/2021 1:08 PM, Benjamin Buchmuller via ntg-context wrote:
Maybe
\hfill author
It's anyway nicer to use
% \definenarrower
% [amnata]
% [left=\measure{amnatamargin},
%right=\measure{amnatamargin},
%default={left,right}]
\definenarrower
[amnata]
[middle=\measure{amnatamargin}]
but then them, the fact that we get something hyphenated interferes ..
tricky
On 24. Oct 2021, at 04:12, kauśika cittūr wrote:
Dear list,
In short, my question is: why does \wordright cause a line-break when the line
preceding it breaks with hyphenation and does not otherwise? How to avoid it
(if at all possible)?
I have this delimitedtext instance called 'amnata' defined as below:
\definemeasure[amnatamargin][3cm]
\definedelimitedtext
[amnata]
\setupdelimitedtext
[amnata]
[
left=,
right=,
leftmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
rightmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
]
I am using this to quote paragraph(s) of other authors.
Since, I also want to indicate where the quote is from, I use this as follows:
\startamnata
⋮
\wordright{author}
\stopamnata
so that the author's name appears at the right-edge of the block.
When the penultimate line inside the block breaks without hyphenation, then
argument of \wordright is typeset as expected (i.e. in the same line).
On the other hand, when the penultimate line inside this block breaks with
hyphenation, the argument of \wordright is pushed to the next line even when
there is enough space for it on the same line.
Here is a sample illustrating this:
\startamnata
A quote from another author : Suppose that thereisalongwordhere.
\wordright{– author}
\stopamnata
\startamnata
A quote from another author : Here, the text does not cause
hyphenation in the first line.
\wordright{– author}
\stopamnata
[I have attached the output here as an image]
How do I ensure that this does not happen, if that is possible at all? I
suppose this is expected behaviour but I am not able to understand why.
Thanks,
kauśika
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Re: [NTG-context] Line breaks, \wordright and hyphenation
Maybe
\hfill author
?
> On 24. Oct 2021, at 04:12, kauśika cittūr wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> In short, my question is: why does \wordright cause a line-break when the
> line
> preceding it breaks with hyphenation and does not otherwise? How to avoid it
> (if at all possible)?
>
> I have this delimitedtext instance called 'amnata' defined as below:
>
> \definemeasure[amnatamargin][3cm]
> \definedelimitedtext
> [amnata]
> \setupdelimitedtext
> [amnata]
> [
>left=,
>right=,
>leftmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
>rightmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
> ]
>
> I am using this to quote paragraph(s) of other authors.
> Since, I also want to indicate where the quote is from, I use this as follows:
>
> \startamnata
> ⋮
> \wordright{author}
> \stopamnata
>
> so that the author's name appears at the right-edge of the block.
>
> When the penultimate line inside the block breaks without hyphenation, then
> argument of \wordright is typeset as expected (i.e. in the same line).
>
> On the other hand, when the penultimate line inside this block breaks with
> hyphenation, the argument of \wordright is pushed to the next line even when
> there is enough space for it on the same line.
>
> Here is a sample illustrating this:
>
> \startamnata
> A quote from another author : Suppose that thereisalongwordhere.
> \wordright{– author}
> \stopamnata
>
> \startamnata
> A quote from another author : Here, the text does not cause
> hyphenation in the first line.
> \wordright{– author}
> \stopamnata
>
> [I have attached the output here as an image]
>
> How do I ensure that this does not happen, if that is possible at all? I
> suppose this is expected behaviour but I am not able to understand why.
>
> Thanks,
> kauśika
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Line breaks, \wordright and hyphenation
On Sunday, October 24, 2021 7:42:59 AM IST kauśika cittūr wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> In short, my question is: why does \wordright cause a line-break when the
> line preceding it breaks with hyphenation and does not otherwise? How to
> avoid it (if at all possible)?
>
> I have this delimitedtext instance called 'amnata' defined as below:
>
> \definemeasure[amnatamargin][3cm]
> \definedelimitedtext
> [amnata]
> \setupdelimitedtext
> [amnata]
> [
> left=,
> right=,
> leftmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
> rightmargin={\measure{amnatamargin}},
> ]
>
> I am using this to quote paragraph(s) of other authors.
> Since, I also want to indicate where the quote is from, I use this as
> follows:
>
> \startamnata
> ⋮
> \wordright{author}
> \stopamnata
>
> so that the author's name appears at the right-edge of the block.
>
> When the penultimate line inside the block breaks without hyphenation, then
> argument of \wordright is typeset as expected (i.e. in the same line).
>
> On the other hand, when the penultimate line inside this block breaks with
> hyphenation, the argument of \wordright is pushed to the next line even when
> there is enough space for it on the same line.
>
> Here is a sample illustrating this:
>
> \startamnata
> A quote from another author : Suppose that thereisalongwordhere.
> \wordright{– author}
> \stopamnata
>
> \startamnata
> A quote from another author : Here, the text does not cause
> hyphenation in the first line.
> \wordright{– author}
> \stopamnata
>
> [I have attached the output here as an image]
>
> How do I ensure that this does not happen, if that is possible at all? I
> suppose this is expected behaviour but I am not able to understand why.
>
> Thanks,
> kauśika
Just noticed that the attachment image does not seem to have been sent.
Resending …
kauśika
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