Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-09-16 Thread Robert Zydenbos

> On 13. Sep 2019, at 12:31, luigi scarso  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Robert Zydenbos  wrote:
> 
> When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. 
> :-)
> 
> 
> luahbtex (in texlive 2020) has harfbuzz embedded .

That sounds like *the* solution (for my next book, in 2020). I've had excellent 
experiences with harfbuzz-embedded software.

RZ
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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-09-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9/13/2019 12:20 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:

On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster 
 wrote:


A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a working 
minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more control about the 
sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV which has more options.

Wolfgang


When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. 
:-)
context does to some extend ... a few month ago some more indic scripts 
were added but of course one needs the fonts and right settings


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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-09-13 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Robert Zydenbos 
wrote:

> On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster <
> wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a
> working minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more
> control about the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV
> which has more options.
> >
> > Wolfgang
>
> When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do
> that. :-)
>


luahbtex (in texlive 2020) has harfbuzz embedded .

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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-09-13 Thread Robert Zydenbos
On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster 
 wrote:

> A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a working 
> minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more control about 
> the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV which has more 
> options.
> 
> Wolfgang

When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. 
:-)

Robert


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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.08.2019 um 17:52:

You're right. I just compared my earlier attempts with the results of the 
sample solutions you and Pablo had sent me and assumed that also everybody else 
knew what I was talking about.
Your problem was easy to understand but without more information it's 
just guess work.

On 22. Aug 2019, at 16:53, Wolfgang Schuster 
 wrote:

Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.08.2019 um 01:42:

I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my book: a 
word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it) is considered a 
word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning with an i with a macron) 
is placed as if it is 'ga'.

Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such special 
characters?

How should we know why you have problems with your index entries when you're 
unable to provide a working minimal example, all you have shown so far are 
snippets.

Attached I am sending a longer example, compiled from a few chapters. There you 
can see that the word 'āddariṃda' is listed as if it starts with a 'd'. This 
happens with every word that begins with a vowel with a macron.

As I mentioned in my last posting, I already have a primitive workaround 
solution – but this could become an issue for some later user for whom the 
index is more important.
A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a 
working minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more 
control about the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV 
which has more options.


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.08.2019 um 01:42:

I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my book: a 
word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it) is considered a 
word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning with an i with a macron) 
is placed as if it is 'ga'.

Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such special 
characters?
How should we know why you have problems with your index entries when 
you're unable to provide a working minimal example, all you have shown 
so far are snippets.


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-08-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
That helps!

But in any case, it looks like the problems are actually several (also the one 
of the precise order of the words in the index), and I think the 'fastest' 
solution for now is that I just compile the index (only 4 pages), make a 
separate component file and rearrange the contents by copy-and-paste. Not the 
most elegant of solutions, but it works. :-)

> On 22. Aug 2019, at 01:58, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica 
>  wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> In IV one can do something such as this:
> 
> % Registers (Indices)
> 
> \defineregister[TIB]
> 
> \setupregister[TIB][indicator=yes,compress=yes]
> 
> and then in the body:
> 
> \TIB[don du gner ba]{don du gñer ba : patthanā : wish}don du gñer ba'i
> phyir rdzogs par byed do
> 
> \TIB[non mons]{ñon moṅs : kilesa : defilements}ñon moṅs pa śin tu che
> ba yin-no
> 
> 
> Richard


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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

2019-08-21 Thread Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
Robert,

In IV one can do something such as this:

% Registers (Indices)

\defineregister[TIB]

\setupregister[TIB][indicator=yes,compress=yes]

and then in the body:

\TIB[don du gner ba]{don du gñer ba : patthanā : wish}don du gñer ba'i
phyir rdzogs par byed do

\TIB[non mons]{ñon moṅs : kilesa : defilements}ñon moṅs pa śin tu che
ba yin-no


Richard


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I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my
book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it)
is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning
with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'.

Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such
special characters?

Robert

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