Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-04 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Hans. I simplified the test file. \mainlanguage[en] \unexpanded\def\ {\mathortext\normalspaceprimitive\space} \starttext A. E. Samuels. A.\ E.\ Samuels. \stoptext Do you see the required difference at your end? On my screen, the two lines look exactly the same (regardless of the

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, Hans. I simplified the test file. \mainlanguage[en] \unexpanded\def\ {\mathortext\normalspaceprimitive\space} \starttext A. E. Samuels. A.\ E.\ Samuels. \stoptext Do you see the required difference at your end? On my screen, the two lines look

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-04 Thread Alan Bowen
That’s got it, Hans! I have replaced all my old “.\ ” with “.|~|”. My pages look much better now. Many thanks indeed. All best, Alan On Aug 4, 2008, at 10;23,22 , Hans Hagen wrote: Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, Hans. I simplified the test file. \mainlanguage[en] \unexpanded\def\

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote: I apologize to all, but circumstances oblige me to pick up a very pedestrian thread for the third time. As Peter Münster noted: in the following test-file \starttext x. x, x x\crlf x, x. x x\crlf x,\ x.\ x\ x\crlf x.\ x,\ x\ x\crlf X. X, X X\crlf X, X. X X\crlf

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-03 Thread Alan Bowen
Many thanks, Charles. This does work and I will use it if push comes to shove, as we say. Alan On Aug 2, 2008, at 22;46,00 , Charles P. Schaum wrote: Alan, If you wand quick and dirty because you are against a hard deadline, use inline math mode and insert negative space $\!$ AFTER the

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-03 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Hans. In my test file I now have \mainlanguage[en] \unexpanded\def\ {\mathortext\normalspaceprimitive\space} \starttext x. x, x x\crlf x, x. x x\crlf x,\ x.\ x\ x\crlf x.\ x,\ x\ x\crlf X. X, X X\crlf X, X. X X\crlf X,\ X.\ X\ X\crlf X.\ X,\ X\ X \stoptext Unfortunately, I do not see

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-03 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, Hans. In my test file I now have \mainlanguage[en] \unexpanded\def\ {\mathortext\normalspaceprimitive\space} \starttext x. x, x x\crlf x, x. x x\crlf x,\ x.\ x\ x\crlf x.\ x,\ x\ x\crlf X. X, X X\crlf X, X. X X\crlf X,\ X.\ X\ X\crlf X.\ X,\ X\ X

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-08-02 Thread Charles P. Schaum
Alan, If you wand quick and dirty because you are against a hard deadline, use inline math mode and insert negative space $\!$ AFTER the x. and IMMEDIATELY BEFORE the next bit. You could also define a macro \negspace to do it as well: \def\negspace{$\!$} so that x, x. \negspace x x will yield

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:53 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:01:17 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2008/7/17 David [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:46:21 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, David. I tried \starttext A. E. Samuel\crlf A.\ E.\ Samuel\crlf

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-18 Thread Peter Rolf
Alan Bowen schrieb: My original query has generated some interesting sidelines but no solution, at least none that I can see. So, with all due apologies, I shall presume on your patience by restating my query. In (English) typography the spacing after a period within a sentence is

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-18 Thread Peter Münster
On Fri, Jul 18 2008, Alan Bowen wrote: In (English) typography the spacing after a period within a sentence is less that that after a period at the end of a sentence. Since the days of Plain TeX, one achieved the proper spacing after an intra- sentence period by entering “.\space”. My

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Peter. You are right about (Plain) TeX--I just got into the habit of inserting them. Defining my own macro to reproduce the control space is a possibility, and I will do that IF the current behavior of “.\ ’ and the tilde in MKII is not remedied. (I have not switched to MKIV yet,

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, Peter. I was wondering about MKIV. (Switching is on my summer “to do” list.) Best, Alan On Jul 18, 2008, at 15;22,31 , Peter Münster wrote: On Fri, Jul 18 2008, Alan Bowen wrote: In (English) typography the spacing after a period within a sentence is less that that after a period

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, David. I tried \starttext A. E. Samuel\crlf A.\ E.\ Samuel\crlf A.~E.~Samuel \stoptext and can see no difference (ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.14 18:07 MKII). The tilde is not really a good way for me to go. The problem is that I publish a journal in which the bibliography is punctuated

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the latest ConTeXt and am using mkii. One used to be able to reduce the spacing after an initial by by typing .\space, but this no longer seems to work. Compare the inter-word spacing in \starttext A. E.

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread Alan Bowen
That is my understanding too, Wolfgang. But I am just not seeing it either in the example or in my documents. So what’s up? As I said in a more recent posting, this is affecting my journal adversely. Alan On Jul 17, 2008, at 07;56,25 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread David
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:46:21 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, David. I tried \starttext A. E. Samuel\crlf A.\ E.\ Samuel\crlf A.~E.~Samuel \stoptext and can see no difference (ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.14 18:07 MKII). The tilde is not really a good way for me to go. The problem is

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2008/7/17 David [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:46:21 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, David. I tried \starttext A. E. Samuel\crlf A.\ E.\ Samuel\crlf A.~E.~Samuel \stoptext and can see no difference (ConTeXt ver: 2008.07.14 18:07 MKII). The tilde is not really a good way

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread Alan Bowen
Thanks, David. I had not realized that there was a command \fixedspaces. Is it documented somewhere? The sample file \starttext \fixedspaces A. E. Samuel\crlf A.\ E.\ Samuel\crlf A.~E.~Samuel \stoptext still produces the same spacing for “A. E. Samuel” and “A.\ E.\ Samuel”. The spacing

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread David
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:01:17 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2008/7/17 David [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:46:21 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, David. I tried \starttext A. E. Samuel\crlf A.\ E.\ Samuel\crlf A.~E.~Samuel \stoptext and can see no difference (ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-17 Thread David
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:13:15 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks, David. I had not realized that there was a command \fixedspaces. Is it documented somewhere? It's in cont-eni on page 72. However, I have not needed the command until recently - I have used the tilde to create narrower spaces

Re: [NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-16 Thread David
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:30:19 -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: I have the latest ConTeXt and am using mkii. One used to be able to reduce the spacing after an initial by by typing “.\space”, but this no longer seems to work. Compare the inter-word spacing in \starttext A. E. Samuel\crlf