Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-09 Thread J- P
i know its late, but or the future Curvature has good pricing and they have 
their own line as well


https://www.curvature.com/optics/sfpplus


And I can attest to it , as I have installed their stuff in hundreds of centers

[https://www.curvature.com/themes/custom/responsive/images/curvature-logo.jpg]<https://www.curvature.com/optics/sfpplus>

Cisco SFP Plus Series Optics | Optical Networking | 
Curvature<https://www.curvature.com/optics/sfpplus>
www.curvature.com
Cisco SFP+ Series Optics from Curvature - Curvature offers data center 
solutions such as Cisco SPF plus optics. Lifetime warranty included. Learn more.






Jean-Paul Natola




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of Webster 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:20 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+


Thanks for all the help and those who reached out to me off list. I changed the 
10G switch to a Netgear one, everything has been ordered and should start 
arriving tomorrow. Ordering cables was the only setback. Even though Amazon 
would state they had them in stock, when I went to complete the order, every 
cable would show "to be delivered in 1 to 4 weeks". Tried multiple vendors and 
had the same result for all of them. Oh well, I will get everything connected 
to the 10G switch when the cables do show up.



Watch for an updated lab article on my site.



Webster



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Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:13 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+



If I break the seal on the server's case, I void the warranty. I have never 
worked with 10GbE before and never thought of adding it to the lab but that 
UBNT 10G switch looked affordable considering the cost of other 10G managed 
switches.



Webster



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Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+



I’m not a hardware dude, but couldn’t you get a fiber NIC for your server?



Something like this: 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114123



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To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+



With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!





Webster



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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+



It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.



https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>

http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/

https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498



I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.




Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955



On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:



I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?



Tha

RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-09 Thread Richard McClary
Now you know one of Amazon’s dirty secrets.  “In stock now” does not 
necessarily mean in this hemisphere, and you don’t find that out until you 
place the order.
--
richard



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

Thanks for all the help and those who reached out to me off list. I changed the 
10G switch to a Netgear one, everything has been ordered and should start 
arriving tomorrow. Ordering cables was the only setback. Even though Amazon 
would state they had them in stock, when I went to complete the order, every 
cable would show "to be delivered in 1 to 4 weeks". Tried multiple vendors and 
had the same result for all of them. Oh well, I will get everything connected 
to the 10G switch when the cables do show up.

Watch for an updated lab article on my site.

Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:13 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

If I break the seal on the server's case, I void the warranty. I have never 
worked with 10GbE before and never thought of adding it to the lab but that 
UBNT 10G switch looked affordable considering the cost of other 10G managed 
switches.

Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

I’m not a hardware dude, but couldn’t you get a fiber NIC for your server?

Something like this: 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114123<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.com%2FProduct%2FProduct.aspx%3FItem%3DN82E16833114123&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.mcclary%40aspca.org%7C83fbbf2f03d64158fe9008d4df2f977e%7Cfcf2ac976f3c48da912a7a446e6b4f54%7C0%7C0%7C636378842872430993&sdata=zRjFMSNB3L0jl5U8nPqaTQPPqRYk0os7mx8B6%2FtmivA%3D&reserved=0>

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:43 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!


Webster

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cablesandkits.com%2Fcisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html%3Futm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dcpc%26utm_term%3D10265%26ne_ppc_id%3D2221%26ne_kw%3D10265%26gclid%3DCj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.mcclary%40aspca.org%7C83fbbf2f03d64158fe9008d4df2f977e%7Cfcf2ac976f3c48da912a7a446e6b4f54%7C0%7C0%7C636378842872430993&sdata=Ze7LtH4HTWHrJ9aFpc5Lx3YBR1HHTD8ed2%2FqsCpjnlU%3D&reserved=0>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prolabs.com%2Fproducts%2Foptical-transceivers%2Fcisco%2FSFP_Plus%2FSFP-10G-T-C%2F&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.mcclary%40aspca.org%7C83fbbf2f03d64158fe9008d4df2f977e%7Cfcf2ac976f3c48da912a7a446e6b4f54%7C0%7C0%7C636378842872430993&sdata=4VwqJzFj8YLJ7u63SylpjX%2FwBLADU%2FcgzqHeGxbpEw8%3D&reserved=0>
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.serversupply.com%2Fproducts%2Fpart_search%2Fpid_lookup.asp%3Fpid%3D264498&data=02%7C01%7Crichard.mcclary%40aspca.org%7C83fbbf2f03d64158fe9008d4df2f977e%7Cfcf2ac976f3c48da912a7a446e6b4f54%7C0%7C0%7C636378842872430993&sdata=kaJIwwJ6zaZAS8N2VKhuB8RokiPQ%2Bw3GYpg%2Fe8cL2bs%3D&reserved=0>

I would be somewhat concerned about r

RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-09 Thread Webster
Thanks for all the help and those who reached out to me off list. I changed the 
10G switch to a Netgear one, everything has been ordered and should start 
arriving tomorrow. Ordering cables was the only setback. Even though Amazon 
would state they had them in stock, when I went to complete the order, every 
cable would show "to be delivered in 1 to 4 weeks". Tried multiple vendors and 
had the same result for all of them. Oh well, I will get everything connected 
to the 10G switch when the cables do show up.

Watch for an updated lab article on my site.

Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:13 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

If I break the seal on the server's case, I void the warranty. I have never 
worked with 10GbE before and never thought of adding it to the lab but that 
UBNT 10G switch looked affordable considering the cost of other 10G managed 
switches.

Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

I’m not a hardware dude, but couldn’t you get a fiber NIC for your server?

Something like this: 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114123

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:43 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!


Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin



RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Webster
If I break the seal on the server's case, I void the warranty. I have never 
worked with 10GbE before and never thought of adding it to the lab but that 
UBNT 10G switch looked affordable considering the cost of other 10G managed 
switches.

Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

I’m not a hardware dude, but couldn’t you get a fiber NIC for your server?

Something like this: 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114123

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:43 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!


Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin



Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Jack Kramer
There are some Intel X520-DA2 cards on eBay for around a hundred bucks, those 
plus some TwinAx cables and you’d be in business.

Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:

I’m not a hardware dude, but couldn’t you get a fiber NIC for your server?

Something like this: 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114123

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:43 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!


Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net/>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin



RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
I’m not a hardware dude, but couldn’t you get a fiber NIC for your server?

Something like this: 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114123

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:43 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!


Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin



RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Webster
With those prices, I will have to rethink the switch I plan to use!!!


Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin



RE: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Webster
The two switches would be next to each other in my "server room".

http://carlwebster.com/look-inside-websters-lab-august-2017/

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Jack Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:21 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html<https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=10265&ne_ppc_id=2221&ne_kw=10265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwqXMBRCDARIsAD-AQ2h38iIq21O-aAHRwTZnz38BC96Yyu6SaV-QYBZUHYm8RqjsXnIHXHMaAnO4EALw_wcB>
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net<http://www.smalltype.net>
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://t.sidekickopen01.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgdV8QRW2zWLDn4XrdjzW7fK3rs56dwxZf67wwsR02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlwebster.com%2F&si=6012126861197312&pi=4311b7b1-332d-4242-8585-36954b184dc7>
The Accidental Citrix Admin



Re: [NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Jack Kramer
It used to be that 10GBASE-T was outside of the SFP+ power envelope but there’s 
a couple of SFP+ modules with 10GBASE-T media now—they work by “modifying” the 
10GBASE-T spec to reduce its power usage. The downside is reduced cable length 
support and what I assume is an absolute ton of heat output.

https://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-compatible-10gbase-t-sfp-module-rj45-connector-sfp-10g-t-p-10265.html
http://www.prolabs.com/products/optical-transceivers/cisco/SFP_Plus/SFP-10G-T-C/
https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=264498

I would be somewhat concerned about running a bunch of those in my switch but 
one or two would probably be fine. You could also look for a standalone media 
converter that takes SFP+ on one end and delivers 10GBASE-T on the other 
side—probably the more expensive but safer solution since it’s full power and 
dumping its heat somewhere that’s not directly into your switch.


Jack Kramer, Senior Consultant
Small Type Computing--www.smalltype.net
W: 855-765-8973 x101 / C: 248-635-4955

On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:

I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com
The Accidental Citrix Admin



[NTSysADM] 10GBASE-T to SFP+

2017-08-08 Thread Webster
I have a SuperMicro server with dual 10GBASE-T ports. I am looking at a 
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 16 XG. I know that switch has four 10GBASE-T ports but I 
plan on using those for my NAS that has 10GBASE-T ports. Is it possible to 
connect the server's 10GBASE-T ports to an SFP+ port with a specific cable and 
connectors? If so, any recommendations on what to use?

Thanks


Carl Webster
Citrix Technology Professional | iGel Tech Community Insider | Parallels VIPP
http://www.CarlWebster.com
The Accidental Citrix Admin