+1 also what does the extended warranty imply. Server up and running in 4
hours?
Besided hardware RAID, also as others mentioned look into virtualization.
Makes recovering much easier/faster if there is a problem.
Rene
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
I
SO Tell them it's like insurance. How much will they pay to
mitigate potential downtime to the business? Then ask how much cost
it will incur should the business suffer a 72 hour outage.
Then ask them if that would be cheap to make sure it was on the latest
supported offering from your
What's the MTBF of the server at 3 years? The vendor should be able to tell you
that.
I typically consider the life-time of a server at 3 to 4 years; after that,
they tend to start breaking down more often.
That doesn't mean you won't find the odd outlier that has been running for 6
years
We recycle servers like that downward from mission critical to lesser important
things. That satisfies the bean counters and keeps mission critical on new
solid hardware. So, do you have an older server that could be replaced with
this less older server.
As for the bean counters that is
It really depends, we have mission critical apps running on servers that
are 4+ years old. Extended service contracts have been purchased from mfg
(HP) for those.
FWIW, I've had HP/Compaq servers that have run until we shut them down for
over 10 years with little more than a power supply being
I almost agree with Michael but he would have more time on servers than me,
I think. That said I have had to keep old servers up and working until they
die and as long as I fully document my objections I am covered. If there
were no warranty available I would push back very hard but the bean
1. Ask the bean counters what their depreciation schedule is on servers. If
it's 3 years like many, they may not be doing their ROI correctly.
2. Ask how much money will be lost if the server is down for 72 hours due to
a hardware failure. Does it offset the $4500? Do an ROI on a couple of even
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I almost agree with Michael but he would have more time on servers than me, I
think. That said I have had to keep old servers up and working until they die
and as long
Does this server meet the hardware requirements for Windows Server 2008r2 ?
If you're going to keep it at least three more years, you want to be running
an OS that's still properly supported for your mission critical application.
Also, if the existing hard drives have been spinning constantly for
, 2010 12:48 PM
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Subject: RE: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?
3. How much longer will the server need to be utilized? Another 3 years?
Will it still be viable for that time? Or will patches/firmware/drivers
become unavailable/outdated? How much harder will it be to replace the
server
I, personally, would consider replacing the disks when you're rebuilding the
server. After 3-4 years of running constantly, I would expect the drives to
start showing their age, but that's just me. I know enterprise drives are
built to last longer, but still, 3-4 years is a LONG time for a disk to
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From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?
It really depends, we have mission critical apps running
I don't necessarily agree that this is a bad idea. If you extend the
warranty, ensuring that the response time is what you need, and
potentially replace the spinning bits (drives, fans, etc.), I think
you should be fine.
However, this assumes that the server is redundant in the usual ways:
AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT ? Server ROI - Reuse ?
Does this server meet the hardware requirements for Windows Server 2008r2 ? If
you're going to keep it at least three more years, you want to be running an OS
that's still properly supported for your mission critical
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