Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Jonathan Link
Since it's ridiculously easy to stand up a server I see no reason to do an inplace upgrade ever[1]. Assuming your licensing is in shape, stand up a new VM, get it ready, transition services, and then decommission the old VM. [1] Licensing is the issue in this matter, if you're out of licenses

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hutchings
[jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 October 2011 8:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? Since it's ridiculously easy to stand up a server I see no reason to do an inplace upgrade ever[1]. Assuming your licensing is in shape, stand up a new VM, get

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread John Cook
Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? I haven't upgraded a Windows

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I've always advised against in-place upgrades. I've done more than a few, and the only ones that went really well long term were the ones where I had built and maintained the original box myself, and then done the upgrade. A clean upgrade, when you can plan for it, it always better, IMO, unless

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Even licensing may not be a major issue if you can migrate from the old to the new fast enough. Just don't activate the new until you've decommissioned the old. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Ralph Smith
System Admin Issues Subject: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years now as typically with physical boxes the box gets replaced after a three year period so the OS is rebuilt/refreshed. Virtualisation has changed that somewhat

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread kz20fl
: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? I've always advised against in-place upgrades. I've done more than a few, and the only ones that went really well long term were the ones where I had built and maintained the original box myself, and then done the upgrade. A clean upgrade, when you

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Fronk
for some time due to installed application support issues. BF From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Hutchings
: 04 October 2011 8:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? Assuming there is some need to move the VM to 2008 that is motivating this, I would just stand up a new server. You would want to use 2008R2 and you can’t do a 32bit – 64bit upgrade

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Sam Cayze
[mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years now as typically with physical boxes the box gets replaced after a three year period so the OS

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread David Lum
It's like getting a new kitten. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? Since it practically takes a button push to deploy a fresh OS, I always stick with that. Eg

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Jonathan Link
:* RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? ** ** Since it practically takes a button push to deploy a fresh OS, I always stick with that. ** ** Eg, Templates in Virtualization, or Syspreped images, etc. ** ** That and the warm, fuzzy feeling you get with a new OS

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread David Lum
Like people From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? Then they get old and poop in unexpected places. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM, David Lum david

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Jonathan Link
Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? ** ** Then they get old and poop in unexpected places. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: “ It’s like getting a new kitten.” *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca

RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Fronk
Well that depends on how much p... Oh never mind, wrong list for that. BF From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? And hairballsforgot to mention

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Jon Harris
:* 04 October 2011 8:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? Since it's ridiculously easy to stand up a server I see no reason to do an inplace upgrade ever[1]. Assuming your licensing is in shape, stand up a new VM, get it ready

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread kz20fl
System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? The one and only time I tired to upgrade a server was 2003 to 2008 and there were so many quirks in the upgraded

Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

2011-10-04 Thread Jon Harris
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? The one and only time I tired to upgrade a server was 2003 to 2008 and there were so many quirks in the upgraded machine I just