SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Oliver Marshall
I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

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RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Art DeKneef
According to the partner web site in the October MAPS shipment.

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

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G2 Support

Online Backups 

 

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web:http://www.g2support.com

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread David Lum
CHEERING

From: Art DeKneef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

According to the partner web site in the October MAPS shipment.

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

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G2 Support
Online Backups

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RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Nice pompoms.

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

CHEERING

From: Art DeKneef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

According to the partner web site in the October MAPS shipment.

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com


















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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Andy Shook
They goes well with his leg warmers and when he gets all hot and bothered he 
likes to cool down with a Tab cola.  :)


Shook

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Nice pompoms.

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

CHEERING

From: Art DeKneef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

According to the partner web site in the October MAPS shipment.

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com























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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need
to virtualize my ram J

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

--

G2 Support

Online Backups 

 

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web:http://www.g2support.com

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Oliver Marshall
8gb of ram ?

 

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem
so...monstrous now.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I
need to virtualize my ram J

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

--

G2 Support

Online Backups 

 

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web:http://www.g2support.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
With everything that is included with SBS I'm actually surprised they managed 
to keep it so low. Heck, just Exchange alone wants at least 8 Gig of RAM 
nowadays.


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
Minimum recommended for Exchange 2007 on a mixed role server is 3 GB.
There's quite a bit of that memory right there.

 

(That being said, on my home Exchange 2007 server, I support eight users in
768 MB. But it's dog slow. I don't recommend it. I've got a new server on
the way.)

 

Windows Server 2008 x64 has a minimum recommended of 2 GB. That's another
large chunk.

 

(That being said, my DC is running in 512 MB and it's just fine - but again,
it's only eight users and my lab computers.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

8gb of ram ?

 

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem
so...monstrous now.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need
to virtualize my ram J

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

--

G2 Support

Online Backups 

 

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web:http://www.g2support.com


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
tttt

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

With everything that is included with SBS I'm actually surprised they
managed to keep it so low. Heck, just Exchange alone wants at least 8 Gig of
RAM nowadays.

 

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

8gb of ram ?

 

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem
so...monstrous now.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need
to virtualize my ram J

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

--

G2 Support

Online Backups 

 

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web:http://www.g2support.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
You minimalist you.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Minimum recommended for Exchange 2007 on a mixed role server is 3 GB. There's 
quite a bit of that memory right there.

(That being said, on my home Exchange 2007 server, I support eight users in 768 
MB. But it's dog slow. I don't recommend it. I've got a new server on the way.)

Windows Server 2008 x64 has a minimum recommended of 2 GB. That's another large 
chunk.

(That being said, my DC is running in 512 MB and it's just fine - but again, 
it's only eight users and my lab computers.)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I swear my Exchange Server emails me every weekend saying Hey dad can I have 
my allowance, I need to go buy more RAM.

Kids...


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

tttt

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

With everything that is included with SBS I'm actually surprised they managed 
to keep it so low. Heck, just Exchange alone wants at least 8 Gig of RAM 
nowadays.


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com




























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread David Lum
New server on the wayis this the server you ordered from EWIZ?

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Minimum recommended for Exchange 2007 on a mixed role server is 3 GB. There's 
quite a bit of that memory right there.

(That being said, on my home Exchange 2007 server, I support eight users in 768 
MB. But it's dog slow. I don't recommend it. I've got a new server on the way.)

Windows Server 2008 x64 has a minimum recommended of 2 GB. That's another large 
chunk.

(That being said, my DC is running in 512 MB and it's just fine - but again, 
it's only eight users and my lab computers.)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Webster
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

New server on the way..is this the server you ordered from EWIZ?

 

grin No, he is getting hand-me-downs. J

 

 

Webster

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

Minimum recommended for Exchange 2007 on a mixed role server is 3 GB.
There's quite a bit of that memory right there.

 

(That being said, on my home Exchange 2007 server, I support eight users in
768 MB. But it's dog slow. I don't recommend it. I've got a new server on
the way.)


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Simon Butler
I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread NTSysAdmin
Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

S

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?
8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread David Lum
I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC's with FSMO roles on a VM's 
machine, has that changed?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

S

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?
8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com




























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
As long as you know how to recover properly, it isn’t an issue after Windows
Server 2003 sp1.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC’s with FSMO roles on a VM’s
machine, has that changed?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

 

S

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum. 

It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available. 

 

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although
things get a little slow if you are using UM. 

 

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives. 

 

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine
or a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.  

 

Simon

 

 

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 

  _  

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

 

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual ‘monster’ that’s waiting for it doesn’t seem
so...monstrous now.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need
to virtualize my ram J

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I’m bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

 

Olly

 

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G2 Support

Online Backups 

 

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web:http://www.g2support.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread David Lum
Sweet! You have any docs on that? Can you also define recover properly? I can 
interpret that a couple of ways...

I have a client who has SBS 2K3 and they are looking to replace hardware next 
month, I was thinking a new server with 2008 host OS running their SBS existing 
2K3 server virtualized and then possibly having them buy SBS 2008, VM-ing it, 
and migrating off SBS 2K3.

Would also love to VM our DC's here too, but I need docs showing MS will 
support FSMO on VM'd servers first.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

As long as you know how to recover properly, it isn't an issue after Windows 
Server 2003 sp1.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC's with FSMO roles on a VM's 
machine, has that changed?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

S

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?
8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com






































~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread David Lum
Klint you are, as the saying goes, MONEY. Thanks!

Dave

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS 2008 yet ?

David,

Since SBS holds all 5 FSMO roles, there is no worry about AD replication 
problems.  In non-sbs environments, with multiple domain controllers, the 
problem was an AD replication problem if a host was suspended.

If it is a non-SBS environment, you would want to look at some caveats in this 
document (although some of the points are the same)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888794


Microsoft will now support VM 
instanceshttp://www.vmware.com/solutions/whitepapers/new_msoft_policies.html 
as long as they are running under a certified 3rd party version.  For VMWare, 
it is 3.5 U2, although Hyber-V is also included in the support.

Shoot, if you want a play-by-play for install within ESX, check out this video 
series

http://www.netometer.com/video/tutorials/sbs-2008-installation/

One thing to remember is to provide ample disk space.  I am running some 2008 
web servers, and windows side-by-size chews up roughly 10 GB alone!  Be sure 
you understand the roadblocks of having two SBS servers on the network, and the 
window allowed to migrate them.

Klint


David Lum wrote:
Sweet! You have any docs on that? Can you also define recover properly? I can 
interpret that a couple of ways...

I have a client who has SBS 2K3 and they are looking to replace hardware next 
month, I was thinking a new server with 2008 host OS running their SBS existing 
2K3 server virtualized and then possibly having them buy SBS 2008, VM-ing it, 
and migrating off SBS 2K3.

Would also love to VM our DC's here too, but I need docs showing MS will 
support FSMO on VM'd servers first.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

As long as you know how to recover properly, it isn't an issue after Windows 
Server 2003 sp1.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC's with FSMO roles on a VM's 
machine, has that changed?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

S

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.ukhttp://www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.infohttp://www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?
8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need to 
virtualize my ram :)

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS 2008 yet ?

I'm bored. When will SBS2008 hit the action packs ?

Olly

--
G2 Support
Online Backups

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.g2support.com

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not just suspended – also if recovered.

 

That was my point about recovery, if you have a single DC, then you are OK
in an sbs environment.

 

If you have multiple DCs (which is completely supported in SBS and in EBS)
then you have to worry about USN rollbacks – and recovery becomes a very
important point.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

David,

Since SBS holds all 5 FSMO roles, there is no worry about AD replication
problems.  In non-sbs environments, with multiple domain controllers, the
problem was an AD replication problem if a host was suspended.

If it is a non-SBS environment, you would want to look at some caveats in
this document (although some of the points are the same)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888794


Microsoft will now
http://www.vmware.com/solutions/whitepapers/new_msoft_policies.html
support VM instances as long as they are running under a certified 3rd party
version.  For VMWare, it is 3.5 U2, although Hyber-V is also included in the
support.

Shoot, if you want a play-by-play for install within ESX, check out this
video series

http://www.netometer.com/video/tutorials/sbs-2008-installation/

One thing to remember is to provide ample disk space.  I am running some
2008 web servers, and windows side-by-size chews up roughly 10 GB alone!  Be
sure you understand the roadblocks of having two SBS servers on the network,
and the window allowed to migrate them.

Klint


David Lum wrote: 

Sweet! You have any docs on that? Can you also define “recover properly”? I
can interpret that a couple of ways…

 

I have a client who has SBS 2K3 and they are looking to replace hardware
next month, I was thinking a new server with 2008 host OS running their SBS
existing 2K3 server virtualized and then possibly having them buy SBS 2008,
VM-ing it, and migrating off SBS 2K3.

 

Would also love to VM our DC’s here too, but I need docs showing MS will
support FSMO on VM’d servers first.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

As long as you know how to recover properly, it isn’t an issue after Windows
Server 2003 sp1.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC’s with FSMO roles on a VM’s
machine, has that changed?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

 

S

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum. 

It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available. 

 

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although
things get a little slow if you are using UM. 

 

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives. 

 

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine
or a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.  

 

Simon

 

 

--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ 

 

  _  

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

8gb of ram ?

 

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual ‘monster’ that’s waiting for it doesn’t seem
so...monstrous now.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

 

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread David Lum
I try to maintin two DC's even in my SBS environments - the SBS server holds 
all the FSMO roles, but a couple of my SBS clients have two locations so I try 
to keep it so if the connection drops between the sites, the remote site can 
still login and access the files on their local server w/out relying on cached 
credentials.

Looks like I get to practice some DR...

Dave



From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Not just suspended – also if recovered.

That was my point about recovery, if you have a single DC, then you are OK in 
an sbs environment.

If you have multiple DCs (which is completely supported in SBS and in EBS) then 
you have to worry about USN rollbacks – and recovery becomes a very important 
point.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS 2008 yet ?

David,

Since SBS holds all 5 FSMO roles, there is no worry about AD replication 
problems.  In non-sbs environments, with multiple domain controllers, the 
problem was an AD replication problem if a host was suspended.

If it is a non-SBS environment, you would want to look at some caveats in this 
document (although some of the points are the same)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888794


Microsoft will now support VM 
instanceshttp://www.vmware.com/solutions/whitepapers/new_msoft_policies.html 
as long as they are running under a certified 3rd party version.  For VMWare, 
it is 3.5 U2, although Hyber-V is also included in the support.

Shoot, if you want a play-by-play for install within ESX, check out this video 
series

http://www.netometer.com/video/tutorials/sbs-2008-installation/

One thing to remember is to provide ample disk space.  I am running some 2008 
web servers, and windows side-by-size chews up roughly 10 GB alone!  Be sure 
you understand the roadblocks of having two SBS servers on the network, and the 
window allowed to migrate them.

Klint


David Lum wrote:
Sweet! You have any docs on that? Can you also define “recover properly”? I can 
interpret that a couple of ways…

I have a client who has SBS 2K3 and they are looking to replace hardware next 
month, I was thinking a new server with 2008 host OS running their SBS existing 
2K3 server virtualized and then possibly having them buy SBS 2008, VM-ing it, 
and migrating off SBS 2K3.

Would also love to VM our DC’s here too, but I need docs showing MS will 
support FSMO on VM’d servers first.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

As long as you know how to recover properly, it isn’t an issue after Windows 
Server 2003 sp1.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC’s with FSMO roles on a VM’s 
machine, has that changed?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

S

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.ukhttp://www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.infohttp://www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http

RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

2008-10-22 Thread Ken Schaefer
What does FSMO role holding have to do with AD recoverability issues with VMs?

To the OP: get this whitepaper on running Active Directory in virtual machines. 
This deals with issues such as USN rollback etc, when using VM host 
functionality for recovery of failed DCs:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64db845d-f7a3-4209-8ed2-e261a117fc6bdisplaylang=en

Cheers
Ken

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2008 8:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS 2008 yet ?

David,

Since SBS holds all 5 FSMO roles, there is no worry about AD replication 
problems.  In non-sbs environments, with multiple domain controllers, the 
problem was an AD replication problem if a host was suspended.

If it is a non-SBS environment, you would want to look at some caveats in this 
document (although some of the points are the same)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888794


Microsoft will now support VM 
instanceshttp://www.vmware.com/solutions/whitepapers/new_msoft_policies.html 
as long as they are running under a certified 3rd party version.  For VMWare, 
it is 3.5 U2, although Hyber-V is also included in the support.

Shoot, if you want a play-by-play for install within ESX, check out this video 
series

http://www.netometer.com/video/tutorials/sbs-2008-installation/

One thing to remember is to provide ample disk space.  I am running some 2008 
web servers, and windows side-by-size chews up roughly 10 GB alone!  Be sure 
you understand the roadblocks of having two SBS servers on the network, and the 
window allowed to migrate them.

Klint


David Lum wrote:
Sweet! You have any docs on that? Can you also define recover properly? I can 
interpret that a couple of ways...

I have a client who has SBS 2K3 and they are looking to replace hardware next 
month, I was thinking a new server with 2008 host OS running their SBS existing 
2K3 server virtualized and then possibly having them buy SBS 2008, VM-ing it, 
and migrating off SBS 2K3.

Would also love to VM our DC's here too, but I need docs showing MS will 
support FSMO on VM'd servers first.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

As long as you know how to recover properly, it isn't an issue after Windows 
Server 2003 sp1.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I remember seeing an MS article to not have DC's with FSMO roles on a VM's 
machine, has that changed?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

Put it into the free ESXi. You'll never go back..:)

S

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

I have a SBS 2008 running fine in a VM with 4gb of RAM. Although the SBS 
community are stating 8gb should be the minimum.
It will not even install unless there is 60gb of hard disk space available.

I am also running E2007 at home in much less than 8gb of RAM, although things 
get a little slow if you are using UM.

Both RAM and disk space are cheap. I had to replace two disks in a SAT array 
last week. UK£45 each for two 500gb drives.

Put it in to the free Hyper-V Server then when you can get a better machine or 
a dedicated system just move it around. It is something I am seriously 
considering doing when I start my SBS 2008 deployments.

Simon



--
Simon Butler
MVP: Exchange, MCSE
Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset.co.ukhttp://www.amset.co.uk
w: www.amset.infohttp://www.amset.info

Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0?
http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for 
certificates from just $23.99.
Need a domain for your certificate? 
http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/


From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:50
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?
8gb of ram ?

Holy cow. My 6GB virtual 'monster' that's waiting for it doesn't seem 
so...monstrous now.

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2008 17:37
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SBS 2008 yet ?

60gb and 8gb of ram minimum requirements seemed a little excessive, I need