Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: but the layout of that page is on purpose. scipy.org is split into two parts: (a) a SciPy Stack part, and (b) a numpy scipy library part. You're looking at the stack part, and the preferred method to install that stack is a Python distribution.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread jim vickroy
On 10/23/2013 8:51 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: but the layout of that page is on purpose. scipy.org is split into two parts: (a) a SciPy Stack part, and (b) a numpy scipy library part. You're looking at the stack part, and the preferred

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, jim vickroy jim.vick...@noaa.gov wrote: On 10/23/2013 8:51 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: but the layout of that page is on purpose. scipy.org is split into two parts: (a) a SciPy Stack part, and (b)

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Pauli Virtanen
23.10.2013 20:10, Matthew Brett kirjoitti: [clip] There's no need to prefer one group over the other - we just need to make sure that both groups have instructions and binaries they can recognize as being for their case. As in: (Group 1): The easiest way to get (Group 2): You can also

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Pauli Virtanen
23.10.2013 17:51, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal kirjoitti: [clip] But it sounds like the real problem is with the surrounding pages--that's the page you find when you try to figure out how to get numpy--if that page is about the stack, it should not be linked to directly from the numpy.org page

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: 23.10.2013 20:10, Matthew Brett kirjoitti: [clip] There's no need to prefer one group over the other - we just need to make sure that both groups have instructions and binaries they can recognize as being for their case.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Pauli Virtanen
23.10.2013 21:06, Pauli Virtanen kirjoitti: 23.10.2013 17:51, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal kirjoitti: [clip] But it sounds like the real problem is with the surrounding pages--that's the page you find when you try to figure out how to get numpy--if that page is about the stack, it should not

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Chris Barker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: I am arguing that whether it's a good idea or not, according to us, is not going affect the guys and gals in Group 2, and that, unless we want to lose or discourage those people, we'll always need to support (and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Pauli Virtanen
23.10.2013 22:50, Chris Barker kirjoitti: [clip] This makes me think: apparently there is an offical scipy stack -- and I even found it with a quick google: http://www.scipy.org/stackspec.html If you click More information... on the front page, or About Scipy in the sidebar, it takes you to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Pauli Virtanen
23.10.2013 23:24, Pauli Virtanen kirjoitti: 23.10.2013 22:50, Chris Barker kirjoitti: [clip] This makes me think: apparently there is an offical scipy stack -- and I even found it with a quick google: http://www.scipy.org/stackspec.html If you click More information... on the front page,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Chris Barker
Folks, After some more discussion here and on the pull request I submitted earlier, here is anew pull request -- I think conforms to what folks suggested, but still makes it a lot easier for folks to find the stand-alone installers if that's what they are looking for.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread josef . pktd
My first stop is always pypi to find the link to binaries. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/scipy however the direct download link points to 0.11 Josef ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: 23.10.2013 23:24, Pauli Virtanen kirjoitti: 23.10.2013 22:50, Chris Barker kirjoitti: [clip] This makes me think: apparently there is an offical scipy stack -- and I even found it with a quick google:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:34 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: My first stop is always pypi to find the link to binaries. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/scipy however the direct download link points to 0.11 Grrr. IIRC that's because you have to link a page on SF which has the actual binaries,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-23 Thread Chris Barker
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be tempted to replace that unreadable link with http://sourceforge.net/projects/scipy/files/scipy/ and not care about pip/easy_install scanning that page. Binary installers don't work anyway and source bundles are

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Pauli Virtanen
22.10.2013 06:29, Chris Barker kirjoitti: If you go to numpy.org, and try to figure out how to install numpy, you are most likely to end up here: http://www.scipy.org/install.html where there is no mention of the binaries built by the numpy project itself, either Windows or Mac. The

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Barker
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: 22.10.2013 06:29, Chris Barker kirjoitti: If you go to numpy.org, and try to figure out how to install numpy, you are most likely to end up here: http://www.scipy.org/install.html where there is no mention of the binaries

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Helmus
On 10/22/2013 09:28 AM, Chris Barker wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: 22.10.2013 06:29, Chris Barker kirjoitti: If you go to numpy.org, and try to figure out how to install numpy, you are most likely to end up here: http://www.scipy.org/install.html

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote: 22.10.2013 06:29, Chris Barker kirjoitti: If you go to numpy.org, and try to figure out how to install numpy, you are most likely to end up here:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Barker
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: You can argue with the exact wording, I won't argue, I'll suggest an alternative in a pull request... but the layout of that page is on purpose. scipy.org is split into two parts: (a) a SciPy Stack part, and (b) a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Barker
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: (off to do a pull request) Done. https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org/pull/30 -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR(206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Barker
By the way: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: If you google numpy you get the numpy.org page as the first hit If you go to numpy.org, there is a geting numpy link, that takes you to: http://www.scipy.org/install.html The www.numpy.org page could

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.govwrote: By the way: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: If you google numpy you get the numpy.org page as the first hit If you go to numpy.org, there is a geting numpy link, that

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.govwrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: (off to do a pull request) Done. https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org/pull/30 Thanks Chris! ___

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.govwrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: You can argue with the exact wording, I won't argue, I'll suggest an alternative in a pull request... but the layout of that page is on

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Barker
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/numpy/numpy.org Agreed that numpy.org is not in great shape. Volunteers welcome I'd say. I just did a pull request to update the Getting Numpy link -- but yes, it needs more than that...someday.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-22 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: You can argue with the exact wording, I won't argue,

[Numpy-discussion] official binaries on web page.

2013-10-21 Thread Chris Barker
If you go to numpy.org, and try to figure out how to install numpy, you are most likely to end up here: http://www.scipy.org/install.html where there is no mention of the binaries built by the numpy project itself, either Windows or Mac. There probably should be. -Chris -- Christopher