Re: Running ANT; was -- Re: [VOTE] Apache Nutch 1.1 Release Candidate #2

[Andrzej Bialecki]

On 2010-04-26 17:30, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hey Andrzej,
> 
>> Actually, we don't have a build target (yet) that produces a binary-only
>> distribution that we can ship and which you can run out of the box (not
>> counting the build/nutch.job alone, because it needs the Hadoop
>> infrastructure to run).
> 
> I thought ant tar did this? That's what it sez on the release guide [1] and
> what I'm familiar with when I did the Nutch 0.9 release.

ant tar packs everything, i.e. both source and binaries.


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Re: Running ANT; was -- Re: [VOTE] Apache Nutch 1.1 Release Candidate #2

[Mattmann, Chris A (388J)]

Hey Andrzej,

> Actually, we don't have a build target (yet) that produces a binary-only
> distribution that we can ship and which you can run out of the box (not
> counting the build/nutch.job alone, because it needs the Hadoop
> infrastructure to run).

I thought ant tar did this? That's what it sez on the release guide [1] and
what I'm familiar with when I did the Nutch 0.9 release.

> 
> The current mixed (source+binary) distribution worked well enough so
> far, but the size of the distribution is becoming a concern, hence the
> idea to ship only the source. We may have been too hasty with that,
> though... What do others think?

Good question, Andrzej. I'll wait for feedback from others. My pref is for
source-only, but I might be in the minority. :)

Cheers,
Chris

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/nutch/Release_HOWTO

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Re: Running ANT; was -- Re: [VOTE] Apache Nutch 1.1 Release Candidate #2

[Andrzej Bialecki]

On 2010-04-26 16:24, David M. Cole wrote:
> At 10:55 PM -0700 4/25/10, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>> Most folks that use Nutch are likely
>> familiar with running ant IMHO.
> 
> I guess then I fall into the category of "not most folks." Have been
> running Nutch for about 14 months and I haven't a clue how to run ant.
> 
> If there's a place to vote to suggest that compiled versions still be
> distributed, I vote for that.

Actually, we don't have a build target (yet) that produces a binary-only
distribution that we can ship and which you can run out of the box (not
counting the build/nutch.job alone, because it needs the Hadoop
infrastructure to run).

The current mixed (source+binary) distribution worked well enough so
far, but the size of the distribution is becoming a concern, hence the
idea to ship only the source. We may have been too hasty with that,
though... What do others think?

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Andrzej Bialecki <><
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Re: Running ANT; was -- Re: [VOTE] Apache Nutch 1.1 Release Candidate #2

[Mattmann, Chris A (388J)]

Hi David,

Thanks. In fact, running ant is probably simpler than running Nutch. The steps 
would be:


 *   what OS are you on (Ant is available for all of them to my knowledge)?
 *   if you need ant, grab a distro from ant.apache.org, otherwise, I'll assume 
that you've got ant installed and callable from the command line.
 *   unpack the nutch src distribution, cd into that directory, type "ant job", 
and there you go.

HTH! You could try it out by taking the Nutch src code from SVN at: 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/nutch/tags/1.1, and then trying the 
steps above.

Cheers,
Chris


On 4/26/10 7:24 AM, "David M. Cole"  wrote:

At 10:55 PM -0700 4/25/10, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>Most folks that use Nutch are likely
>familiar with running ant IMHO.

I guess then I fall into the category of "not most folks." Have been
running Nutch for about 14 months and I haven't a clue how to run ant.

If there's a place to vote to suggest that compiled versions still be
distributed, I vote for that.

Thanks.

\dmc

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Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov
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Running ANT; was -- Re: [VOTE] Apache Nutch 1.1 Release Candidate #2

[David M. Cole]

At 10:55 PM -0700 4/25/10, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:

Most folks that use Nutch are likely
familiar with running ant IMHO.


I guess then I fall into the category of "not most folks." Have been 
running Nutch for about 14 months and I haven't a clue how to run ant.


If there's a place to vote to suggest that compiled versions still be 
distributed, I vote for that.


Thanks.

\dmc

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