Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-20 Thread IETF
...@tools.ietf.org draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org mailto:draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org, liyizhou liyiz...@huawei.com mailto:liyiz...@huawei.com 主题: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Let me weigh in my comments. - Do not think punt

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-20 Thread Liyizhou
Shahram Davari 发送时间: 2015年7月17日 21:47 收件人: Dacheng Zhang 抄送: maxpassion; Deepak Kumar (dekumar); tom; nvo3; lizho@gmail.com; draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org; Liyizhou 主题: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Why is efficient important? I am

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-20 Thread IETF
(dekumar); tom; nvo3; lizho@gmail.com; draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org; Liyizhou 主题: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Why is efficient important? I am assuming trace route is used for diagnostic purpose. So a DC manager

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-20 Thread Shahram Davari
; Deepak Kumar (dekumar); tom; nvo3; lizho@gmail.com; draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Shahram, I think there are some other aspects why such a approach is required. In a DC, customer (normally

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-19 Thread Dacheng Zhang
-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org; nvo3; maxpassion Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network If we use TTL, at least we could say the path between ingress and egress node is OK if OAM is OK. Because the OAM packet goes through exactly the same forwarding behavior

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-19 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
-path-detect...@tools.ietf.orgmailto:draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org, nvo3 nvo3@ietf.orgmailto:nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.commailto:maxpass...@gmail.com 主题: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Shahram, From: Shahram Davari dav

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-18 Thread Dacheng Zhang
nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.com 主题: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Dacheng, How is it ensured that incrementing the udp source port (outer header encap) will detect ALL ecmp paths ? As the ecmp hash algorithm may not be a standard one across

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-17 Thread Shahram Davari
...@tools.ietf.orgmailto:draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org, nvo3 nvo3@ietf.orgmailto:nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.commailto:maxpass...@gmail.com 主题: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Shahram, From: Shahram Davari dav...@broadcom.commailto:dav

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-17 Thread Saumya Dikshit (sadikshi)
-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org, nvo3 nvo3@ietf.orgmailto:nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.commailto:maxpass...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi, Shahram: According to the feedback from the DC manager, this solution is more

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread lizho....@gmail.com
Liu'; draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Lizhong, No matter which way we use to capture a packet for further diagnose, it always involves additional operations. Here following real data path is guaranteed

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread Shahram Davari
...@tools.ietf.org; nvo3; maxpassion Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network TTL use is fine and it works with existing hardware, but what this document is trying to provide another alternate approach where all devices are OAM capable and can look at O bit. In carrier Ethernet

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
...@tools.ietf.org draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.orgmailto:draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org, nvo3 nvo3@ietf.orgmailto:nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.commailto:maxpass...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network I

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread aldrin ietf
-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org, nvo3 nvo3@ietf.org mailto:nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.com mailto:maxpass...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network I agree. You should use TTL. TTL use will also solve layer violation issue. Thx SD

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread Shahram Davari
Cc: Lizhong Jin; Tom Herbert; Deepak Kumar (dekumar); nvo3@ietf.org; Dapeng Liu; draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detect...@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Currently we are using ACL to capture it. Ideally hardware would be able to do

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
...@tools.ietf.org, nvo3 nvo3@ietf.orgmailto:nvo3@ietf.org, maxpassion maxpass...@gmail.commailto:maxpass...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Deepak, If TTL works then why invent a new method. Also this draft is very different from ETH Link Trace, since

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-06 Thread Liyizhou
); nvo3@ietf.org; Dapeng Liu Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network How does a node know it should copy these packet to CPU? Is it by looking inside the packet without terminating the outer layer? Why not use TTL expiry? Regards, Shahram On Jul 5, 2015, at 8:12

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-05 Thread Lizhong Jin
...@huawei.com] Sent: 2015年7月6日 11:12 To: Lizhong Jin; 'Tom Herbert'; 'Deepak Kumar (dekumar)' Cc: nvo3@ietf.org; 'Dapeng Liu' Subject: RE: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi Lizhong, I believe copy here means replicate. The original data packet will be keeping

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-05 Thread Lizhong Jin
@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hello all, We have submitted a draft for path detection in VXLAN overlay network. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detection/ The draft proposes a method for path detection in VXLAN

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-05 Thread Liyizhou
Kumar (dekumar)' Cc: nvo3@ietf.org; 'Dapeng Liu' Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi guys, In the draft, it says: Each network device receives the Path Tracking packet from its upstream device, makes a copy of it and passes the copy to its CPU. That means

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-07-05 Thread Shahram Davari
Liu' Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hi guys, In the draft, it says: Each network device receives the Path Tracking packet from its upstream device, makes a copy of it and passes the copy to its CPU. That means the OAM packet will have different data

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-06-29 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network Hello all, We have submitted a draft for path detection in VXLAN overlay network. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detection/ The draft proposes a method for path detection in VXLAN network

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Herbert
to be updated anyway, why not just move to that and avoid having to worry about the compatibility problem? Thanks, Tom Thanks, Deepak From: Dapeng Liu maxpass...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 10:04 AM To: nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-06-23 Thread Tom Herbert
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Dapeng Liu maxpass...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, We have submitted a draft for path detection in VXLAN overlay network. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detection/ The draft proposes a method for path detection in VXLAN network and

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-06-23 Thread Tom Herbert
Liu Cc: nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Dapeng Liu maxpass...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, We have submitted a draft for path detection in VXLAN overlay network. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pang

Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-06-23 Thread Liyizhou
intention to even having reserved bits. Thank, Yizhou -Original Message- From: nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Herbert Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:21 PM To: Dapeng Liu Cc: nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network On Sat

[nvo3] New draft: Path Detection in VXLAN Overlay Network

2015-06-20 Thread Dapeng Liu
Hello all, We have submitted a draft for path detection in VXLAN overlay network. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pang-nvo3-vxlan-path-detection/ The draft proposes a method for path detection in VXLAN network and it defines the path detection packet format by using one reserve bit in