Re: [nvo3] draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-12 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: > > Sami, et al, > > > > The draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 is written very clear. > > > > However, the Section 6 (Common Encapsulation Considerations) should add a > sub-section on the consideration of traversing NAPT. Encapsulated traffic

Re: [nvo3] draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-12 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: > > Sami, et al, > > > > The draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 is written very clear. > > > > However, the Section 6 (Common Encapsulation Considerations) should add a > sub-section on the consideration of traversing NAPT. Encapsulated traffic

Re: [nvo3] draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-13 Thread Dan Wing
rce UDP port to provide the ECMP and receiver benefit. What of NAT64? -d > Joe > > > On 7/12/2017 4:08 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: >>> >>> Sami, et al, >>> >>> >>> >>

Re: [nvo3] draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-13 Thread Dan Wing
> Or all the NAT device convert the NVE’s UDP port 6081 to multiple port > numbers? I don't understand 'convert ... to multiple port numbers'. -d > > Thanks, > Linda > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Wing [mailto:dw...@vmware.com] > Se

Re: [nvo3] draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-13 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > > > > On 7/13/2017 12:39 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Joe Touch wrote: >>> >>> FWIW, why not just add the entropy in the IPv6 flow ID rather than >>> expecting it a

Re: [nvo3] draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-13 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > > > > On 7/13/2017 1:23 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Joe Touch wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/13/2017 12:39 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >>>>> On Jul

Re: [nvo3] Carrying entropy, was: draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-14 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: > > Joe Touch writes: >> Even a NVI isn't really flow information, so might not have any >> bearing on whether a set of packets (with the same NVI) should maintain >> their relative order. > > Well, the definition of "flow information" is no

Re: [nvo3] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-04.txt

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Dave Dolson wrote: > > This document shows IPv6 encapsulation, but provides no guidance about > setting the Outer IPv6 flow label. > I would expect the flow label to be described with similar language to the > UDP source port, since Flow Label is the obvious way

Re: [nvo3] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-04.txt

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Wing
twork needs to benefit from ECMP and the v4 receiver needs to benefit from CPU balancing. -d > > > -----Original Message- > From: Dan Wing [mailto:dw...@vmware.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:30 PM > To: Dave Dolson > Cc: Ganga, Ilango S; nvo3@ietf.org > Subjec

Re: [nvo3] Carrying entropy, was: draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

2017-07-21 Thread Dan Wing
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:19 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: > > Dan Wing writes: >> Using Geneve VNI doesn't take us towards that goal, though. On a >> simple network, there is only one VNI (one virtual network), and if we >> used solely VNI for underlay ECMP, al

Re: [nvo3] Suggested wording for the "NAT Traversing Consideration" to be added to the Section 6 of draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00

2017-09-08 Thread Dan Wing
traffic is encapsulated and sent to destination UDP port 4789. The remote peer also encapsulates and sends its traffic to destination UDP port 4789. Thus, to accept incoming Geneve traffic, on-path firewalls or NATs MUST permit incoming UDP port 4789 traffic from their remote Geneve peer."

Re: [nvo3] Suggested wording for the "NAT Traversing Consideration" to be added to the Section 6 of draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00

2017-09-08 Thread Dan Wing
inverted 5-tuple of the outbound traffic. I don't see value in complicating what the IT administrator needs to configure to allow that incoming traffic. -d > > Linda > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 8, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >> >> >&

Re: [nvo3] Suggested wording for the "NAT Traversing Consideration" to be added to the Section 6 of draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00

2017-09-15 Thread Dan Wing
tatic port forwarding is available on consumer and enterprise NAPT devices, and does not suffer these drawbacks. -d > > > Thanks, Linda > > From: Sami Boutros [mailto:sbout...@vmware.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:37 PM > To: Linda Dunbar ; Dan Wing ; > draf

Re: [nvo3] Suggested wording for the "NAT Traversing Consideration" to be added to the Section 6 of draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00

2017-09-20 Thread Dan Wing
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: > > Sami, > > Answers inserted below: > > From: Sami Boutros [mailto:sbout...@vmware.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:23 PM > To: Linda Dunbar ; Dan Wing ; > draft-ietf-nvo3-en...@ietf.org > C

Re: [nvo3] Suggested wording for the "NAT Traversing Consideration" to be added to the Section 6 of draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00

2017-09-20 Thread Dan Wing
Linda > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Wing [mailto:dw...@vmware.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:18 PM > To: Linda Dunbar > Cc: Sami Boutros ; draft-ietf-nvo3-en...@ietf.org; NVO3 > > Subject: Re: Suggested wording for the "NAT Traversing Consideration

[nvo3] draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-demand-cc-cv [was Re: Poll for NVO3 WG adoption and IPR call for draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-header-03]

2017-11-17 Thread Dan Wing
On Nov 16, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > > Dear WG Chairs, et. al, > in their presentation in Singapore the iOAM team pointed to interest in using > the extra header right after the GENEVE encapsulation. I've looked at their > proposal and believe that the OOAM header, as proposed in t

Re: [nvo3] Poll for WG adoption of draft-mglt-nvo3-geneve-security-requirements-03

2018-02-27 Thread Dan Wing
On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) wrote: > This email begins a two-week poll for adoption of > draft-mglt-nvo3-geneve-security-requirements-03 in the NVO3 working group. > Please review the draft and send any comments to the NVO3 list. > Please also indicate whether you su

Re: [nvo3] New Version Notification for draft-xiang-nvo3-geneve-packet-spray-00.txt

2018-03-02 Thread Dan Wing
The paper "On the Impact of Packet Spraying in Data Center Networks" (*) shows impact of packet spraying with TCP and seems to show good results without the sequence number proposed in the Internet Draft. Can the authors comment on that paper or on the need for the sequence number and group flo