Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread peter paul
As interested as I am in the aging of these birds, I'm just gonna keep reading the thoughts of others. But going back to the how-many-Arctic-Terns-are-we-seeing thread: Tim, My Sunday and Friday birds were different. Look at my pictures from Friday

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread peter paul
As interested as I am in the aging of these birds, I'm just gonna keep reading the thoughts of others. But going back to the how-many-Arctic-Terns-are-we-seeing thread: Tim, My Sunday and Friday birds were different. Look at my pictures from Friday

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Tim, There's an error here. Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS: Juvenile = HY = hatching-year First-summer = SY = Second calendar year Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look like adults, and

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Tim, There's an error here. Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS: Juvenile = HY = hatching-year First-summer = SY = Second calendar year Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look like adults, and

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Timothy Healy
Everyone patient and curious enough to follow this conversation, Interestingly, Steve’s bird does like like a different individual from the one I reported yesterday morning. https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46604935 The white forehead speckling on Steve’s photographed bird is more prominent,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Timothy Healy
Everyone patient and curious enough to follow this conversation, Interestingly, Steve’s bird does like like a different individual from the one I reported yesterday morning. https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46604935 The white forehead speckling on Steve’s photographed bird is more prominent,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Andrew Baksh
Hi Tim, I would be in the ASY camp on this bird as well. Fascinating bird and excellent photo from Steve. Yesterday at Nickerson a group of us had an entirely different bird and I thought I had a second bird that looked like this one but could never connect with it after my initial

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Andrew Baksh
Hi Tim, I would be in the ASY camp on this bird as well. Fascinating bird and excellent photo from Steve. Yesterday at Nickerson a group of us had an entirely different bird and I thought I had a second bird that looked like this one but could never connect with it after my initial

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Pat Aitken
Thank you all, again, for this excellent discussion, and for generous sharing of your knowledge! On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:29 PM Timothy Healy wrote: > This is where many banders and field biologists often use the > abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second >

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Pat Aitken
Thank you all, again, for this excellent discussion, and for generous sharing of your knowledge! On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:29 PM Timothy Healy wrote: > This is where many banders and field biologists often use the > abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second >

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Timothy Healy
This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Timothy Healy
This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE,

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Hi Tim and all, There are a number of parallel systems for denoting age. The worst for birders is the plumage cycle system, because at this time of year a flock of 30 manky looking Lesser Black-backed Gulls of exactly the same age 350-370 days since hatching might include both first and second

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Hi Tim and all, There are a number of parallel systems for denoting age. The worst for birders is the plumage cycle system, because at this time of year a flock of 30 manky looking Lesser Black-backed Gulls of exactly the same age 350-370 days since hatching might include both first and second

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Timothy Healy
Steve and other sternid enthusiasts, Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my understanding of the

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

2018-06-18 Thread Timothy Healy
Steve and other sternid enthusiasts, Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my understanding of the

[nysbirds-l] Reminder: BBC Talk Tomorrow, VULTURE: THE PRIVATE LIFE OF AN UNLOVED BIRD

2018-06-18 Thread Dennis Hrehowsik
*Tomorrow Tuesday June 19th @ 7PM* *BBC Evening Presentation:* *KATIE FALLON PRESENTS: VULTURE: THE PRIVATE LIFE OF AN UNLOVED BIRD* *BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY, CENTRAL BRANCH AT GRAND ARMY PLAZA* Vultures are often overlooked, underappreciated, and unloved, despite the vital role they play

[nysbirds-l] Reminder: BBC Talk Tomorrow, VULTURE: THE PRIVATE LIFE OF AN UNLOVED BIRD

2018-06-18 Thread Dennis Hrehowsik
*Tomorrow Tuesday June 19th @ 7PM* *BBC Evening Presentation:* *KATIE FALLON PRESENTS: VULTURE: THE PRIVATE LIFE OF AN UNLOVED BIRD* *BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY, CENTRAL BRANCH AT GRAND ARMY PLAZA* Vultures are often overlooked, underappreciated, and unloved, despite the vital role they play

[nysbirds-l] "Vulture" - a Queens County Bird Club presentation this Weds. June 20

2018-06-18 Thread Nancy Tognan
The Queens County Bird Club will be meeting at the Alley Pond Environmental Center, 228-06 Northern Blvd Douglaston, NY 11362 >Map of location< at 8:00 pm this Wednesday, June 20, 2018. Free admission. Refreshments served. Katie Fallon will present “Vulture: The

[nysbirds-l] "Vulture" - a Queens County Bird Club presentation this Weds. June 20

2018-06-18 Thread Nancy Tognan
The Queens County Bird Club will be meeting at the Alley Pond Environmental Center, 228-06 Northern Blvd Douglaston, NY 11362 >Map of location< at 8:00 pm this Wednesday, June 20, 2018. Free admission. Refreshments served. Katie Fallon will present “Vulture: The

[nysbirds-l] Cattle Egret at Timber Point/No (Suffolk Count)

2018-06-18 Thread suefeustel
>From 6:45 to 7:45 AM we were unable to locate the Cattle Egret reported there >yesterday. Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm

[nysbirds-l] Cattle Egret at Timber Point/No (Suffolk Count)

2018-06-18 Thread suefeustel
>From 6:45 to 7:45 AM we were unable to locate the Cattle Egret reported there >yesterday. Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm