[nysbirds-l] Chores can convert to contentment !

[robert adamo]

This morning my drive to the supermarket in Riverhead was made more
palatable by spotting a single Turkey Vulture circling overhead...could it
have been "Lonesome George", the solitary T.V. that has been reported from
this area of eastern L.I. for the past couple of years ?

This afternoon. I headed up to Calverton for my annual (last 30 years at
least) cutting of our Christmas Tree. Near the intersection of Route 25 &
Fresh Pond Rd., I noticed a large hawk hovering, and after avoiding causing
an accident as I stopped/pulled over, I not only brought my binoculars up
to see a light-morph Rough-legged Hawk, but a Red-tailed Hawk, which
entered my binocular field, as well ! After those sightings, I knew I was
not going to have any problem picking out a tree which would make my wife
happy !

On the way home I had another Red-tail, and also made a stop at the Buffalo
Farm, at the intersection of Reeves Ave & Roanoke Ave, Riverhead...where I
had a "life sighting" for the fenced-off, feeding corral proper ! It goes
without saying that I have seen Canada Geese in every field surrounding the
corral (approximately 125' x 250') but I can't remember ever seeing a
single *Branta canadensis* inside it, no less the ~ 70 there today. While
only 1 buffalo was within the  fencing at the time, there have been
numerous prior visits when either none, or just a few of the animals were
there, but still no geese...albeit, ducks have been common occurrence..

Cheers,
Bob




Cheers,
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[nysbirds-l] Chores can convert to contentment !

[robert adamo]

This morning my drive to the supermarket in Riverhead was made more
palatable by spotting a single Turkey Vulture circling overhead...could it
have been "Lonesome George", the solitary T.V. that has been reported from
this area of eastern L.I. for the past couple of years ?

This afternoon. I headed up to Calverton for my annual (last 30 years at
least) cutting of our Christmas Tree. Near the intersection of Route 25 &
Fresh Pond Rd., I noticed a large hawk hovering, and after avoiding causing
an accident as I stopped/pulled over, I not only brought my binoculars up
to see a light-morph Rough-legged Hawk, but a Red-tailed Hawk, which
entered my binocular field, as well ! After those sightings, I knew I was
not going to have any problem picking out a tree which would make my wife
happy !

On the way home I had another Red-tail, and also made a stop at the Buffalo
Farm, at the intersection of Reeves Ave & Roanoke Ave, Riverhead...where I
had a "life sighting" for the fenced-off, feeding corral proper ! It goes
without saying that I have seen Canada Geese in every field surrounding the
corral (approximately 125' x 250') but I can't remember ever seeing a
single *Branta canadensis* inside it, no less the ~ 70 there today. While
only 1 buffalo was within the  fencing at the time, there have been
numerous prior visits when either none, or just a few of the animals were
there, but still no geese...albeit, ducks have been common occurrence..

Cheers,
Bob




Cheers,
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[nysbirds-l] RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2016

[David Suggs]

- RBA
* New York
* Buffalo
* 12/01/2016
* NYBU1612.01
- Birds mentioned

  ---
  Please submit reports to
  dsu...@buffaloornithologicalsociety.org
  ---

  ROSS'S GOOSE
  GR. WHITE-FR. GOOSE
  CACKLING GOOSE
  HARLEQUIN DUCK
  AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVER
  FISH CROW
  Merlin
  Peregrine Falcon
  Wild Turkey
  Gr. Cr. Flycatcher
  Common Raven
  Marsh Wren
  Northern Shrike
  Snow Bunting
  Pine Siskin

- Transcript
  Hotline: Buffalo Bird Report at the Buffalo Museum of Science
  Date: 12/01/2016
  Number:   716-896-1271
  To Report:Same
  Compiler: David F. Suggs
  Coverage: Western New York and adjacent Ontario
  Website:  www.BuffaloOrnithologicalSociety.org

  Thursday, December 1, 2016

  The Buffalo Bird Report is a service provided by your
  Buffalo Museum of Science and the Buffalo Ornithological
  Society. To contact the Science Museum, call 896-5200. Press
  the pound key to report sightings before the end of this
  report.

  Highlights of reports received November 17 through December
  1 from the Niagara Frontier Region.

  Between November 23 and 27, uncommon waterfowl at the Gypsum
  ponds on Hutton Road in Genesee County - 4 ROSS'S GEESE, 4
  GR. WHITE-FR. GEESE and up to 18 CACKLING GEESE. Also at the
  ponds, small numbers of white and blue phase SNOW GEESE.

  On the upper Niagara River, November 25, 4 HARLEQUIN DUCKS,
  including at least 2 males, off the waterfowl viewing area
  along the Niagara Scenic Parkway in Niagara Falls, New York.
  A single HARLEQUIN DUCK, female, on the 24th, at Point
  Breeze, at the mouth of Oak Orchard Creek at Lake Ontario.

  November 19, a late AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVER on the Lake Erie
  shore at Hamburg Town Park. MARSH WREN at Kumpf Marsh in the
  Iroquois Refuge on the 27th. And on the 26th, a reported GR.
  CR. FLYCATCHER on the Ellicott Creek bike trail in Amherst.
  This would be the first November record of GR. CR.
  FLYCATCHER in the BOS archives.

  November 28, at least two FISH CROWS among the crow roost at
  Forest Lawn in Buffalo.

  First report of the season - NORTHERN SHRIKE in the Iroquois
  Refuge, along Oak Orchard Ridge Road, and 9 PINE SISKINS at
  a feeder in Medina. And, scattered reports of SNOW BUNTINGS
  continue.

  Other recent reports - three PEREGRINE FALCONS at the Peace
  Bridge in Buffalo. PEREGRINE FALCON and MERLIN interacting
  in downtown Niagara Falls, Ontario. MERLINS also at two
  locations in Buffalo. In the Southern Tier, COMMON RAVEN on
  Bentley Hill Road in the Town of Gerry. And, 9 WILD TURKEYS
  residing in Elmlawn Cemetery in Tonawanda.

  The Bird Report will be updated Thursday evening, December
  8. Please call in your sightings by noon Thursday. You may
  report sightings after the tone. Thank you for calling and
  reporting.

- End Transcript

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[nysbirds-l] RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2016

[David Suggs]

- RBA
* New York
* Buffalo
* 12/01/2016
* NYBU1612.01
- Birds mentioned

  ---
  Please submit reports to
  dsu...@buffaloornithologicalsociety.org
  ---

  ROSS'S GOOSE
  GR. WHITE-FR. GOOSE
  CACKLING GOOSE
  HARLEQUIN DUCK
  AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVER
  FISH CROW
  Merlin
  Peregrine Falcon
  Wild Turkey
  Gr. Cr. Flycatcher
  Common Raven
  Marsh Wren
  Northern Shrike
  Snow Bunting
  Pine Siskin

- Transcript
  Hotline: Buffalo Bird Report at the Buffalo Museum of Science
  Date: 12/01/2016
  Number:   716-896-1271
  To Report:Same
  Compiler: David F. Suggs
  Coverage: Western New York and adjacent Ontario
  Website:  www.BuffaloOrnithologicalSociety.org

  Thursday, December 1, 2016

  The Buffalo Bird Report is a service provided by your
  Buffalo Museum of Science and the Buffalo Ornithological
  Society. To contact the Science Museum, call 896-5200. Press
  the pound key to report sightings before the end of this
  report.

  Highlights of reports received November 17 through December
  1 from the Niagara Frontier Region.

  Between November 23 and 27, uncommon waterfowl at the Gypsum
  ponds on Hutton Road in Genesee County - 4 ROSS'S GEESE, 4
  GR. WHITE-FR. GEESE and up to 18 CACKLING GEESE. Also at the
  ponds, small numbers of white and blue phase SNOW GEESE.

  On the upper Niagara River, November 25, 4 HARLEQUIN DUCKS,
  including at least 2 males, off the waterfowl viewing area
  along the Niagara Scenic Parkway in Niagara Falls, New York.
  A single HARLEQUIN DUCK, female, on the 24th, at Point
  Breeze, at the mouth of Oak Orchard Creek at Lake Ontario.

  November 19, a late AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVER on the Lake Erie
  shore at Hamburg Town Park. MARSH WREN at Kumpf Marsh in the
  Iroquois Refuge on the 27th. And on the 26th, a reported GR.
  CR. FLYCATCHER on the Ellicott Creek bike trail in Amherst.
  This would be the first November record of GR. CR.
  FLYCATCHER in the BOS archives.

  November 28, at least two FISH CROWS among the crow roost at
  Forest Lawn in Buffalo.

  First report of the season - NORTHERN SHRIKE in the Iroquois
  Refuge, along Oak Orchard Ridge Road, and 9 PINE SISKINS at
  a feeder in Medina. And, scattered reports of SNOW BUNTINGS
  continue.

  Other recent reports - three PEREGRINE FALCONS at the Peace
  Bridge in Buffalo. PEREGRINE FALCON and MERLIN interacting
  in downtown Niagara Falls, Ontario. MERLINS also at two
  locations in Buffalo. In the Southern Tier, COMMON RAVEN on
  Bentley Hill Road in the Town of Gerry. And, 9 WILD TURKEYS
  residing in Elmlawn Cemetery in Tonawanda.

  The Bird Report will be updated Thursday evening, December
  8. Please call in your sightings by noon Thursday. You may
  report sightings after the tone. Thank you for calling and
  reporting.

- End Transcript

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[nysbirds-l] NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2016

[Ben Cacace]

- RBA
* New York
* New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
* Dec. 1, 2016
* NYNY1612.01

- Birds mentioned
PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
ASH-THROATED FLYCATCHER+
WESTERN TANAGER+
(+ Details requested by NYSARC)

King Eider
selasphorus hummingbird
Sandhill Crane
Marbled Godwit
Little Gull
Glaucous Gull
Red-headed Woodpecker
Western Kingbird
Yellow-breasted Chat
Red Crossbill

- Transcript

If followed by (+) please submit documentation of your report
electronically and use the NYSARC online submission form found at
http://www.nybirds.org/NYSARC/goodreport.htm

You can also send reports and digital image files via email to
nysarc44(at)nybirds{dot}org.

If electronic submission is not possible, hardcopy reports and photos or
sketches are welcome. Hardcopy documentation should be mailed to:

Gary Chapin - Secretary
NYS Avian Records Committee (NYSARC)
125 Pine Springs Drive
Ticonderoga, NY 12883

Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
Number: (212) 979-3070

To report sightings call:
Tom Burke (212) 372-1483 (weekdays, during the day)
Tony Lauro at (631) 734-4126 (Long Island)

Compiler: Tom Burke, Tony Lauro
Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County

Transcriber: Ben Cacace

BEGIN TAPE

Greetings. This is the NYS Rare Bird alert for Thursday, December 1st.

The PINK-FOOTED GOOSE originally discovered at Hendrickson Park, Nassu
County on Nov 1, continued to at least Nov 30, and is likely still
frequenting the area.

The female KING EIDER at Ransom Beach, Bayville, found 10 Nov, was present
to at least 16 Nov.

2 MARBLED GODWIT (S) were sighted from a kayak near Big Egg Marsh, Jamaica
Bay on Nov 13, possibly the same birds that have been in the area since
September.

A first winter LITTLE GULL was found off Montauk Point Nov 23, and a first
year GLAUCOUS GULL was loafing on the beach off Lido Park West on 13 Nov.

A RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was found at Bill Richardson Park, Suffolk Nov 18
and 26, and another, an immature male, was photographed at Sunken Meadow SP
on 19 Nov.

A selasphorus hummingbird visiting a private North Fork Long Island feeder
in Aquebogue was first reported to the list 22 Nov, but had apparently been
around for four weeks. So far there are no diagnostic photos to pin it to
species, and no further reports.

A WESTERN KINGBIRD was a one-day wonder at Jones Beach West End Nov 19.

An ASH-THROATED FLYCATCHER discovered at Lido West Park in Nassau County
Nov 13 was still being reported at least to Nov 27. Another Ash-throat was
found at the less accessible Bushwick Inlet Park, Brooklyn Nov 19-20.

At least two YELLOW-BREASTED CHAT (S) remain in lower Manhattan NYC parks;
one at Trinity Church found Nov 3 and still being reported as of Dec 1, the
other near City Hall Park seen at least to the 28th. Other Chat reports
come from Fort Pond Cemetery in Montauk 10 Nov, and Greenwood Cemetery 19
Nov.

Two WESTERN TANAGER (S) were discovered within a day of one another -- a
female at City Hall Park in lower Manhattan on Nov 23 and remaining through
at least Dec 1, and an adult male at Conference House Park on Staten Island
found Nov 24 and reported to at least Nov 27.

RED CROSSBILL (S) are appearing in small, sporadic numbers, with 5-6 at
Jones Beach West End on Nov 19, one at Lido West Park on the 23rd, and 7 at
Jones Beach Nov 27. All were reported to have continued west and did not
linger.

In Westchester, 13 SANDHILL CRANE (S) were photographed flying over
Playland Park in Rye on Nov 23.

To phone in reports on Long Island, call Tony Lauro at (631) 734-4126 or
weekdays call Tom Burke at (212) 372-1483.

The compilers for this week's RBA were Shaibal Mitra and Patricia Lindsay.
Tom Burke is away on vacation. Tony Lauro has been ill for the past few
weeks and we are looking forward to a complete recovery soon.

- End transcript

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[nysbirds-l] NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2016

[Ben Cacace]

- RBA
* New York
* New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
* Dec. 1, 2016
* NYNY1612.01

- Birds mentioned
PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
ASH-THROATED FLYCATCHER+
WESTERN TANAGER+
(+ Details requested by NYSARC)

King Eider
selasphorus hummingbird
Sandhill Crane
Marbled Godwit
Little Gull
Glaucous Gull
Red-headed Woodpecker
Western Kingbird
Yellow-breasted Chat
Red Crossbill

- Transcript

If followed by (+) please submit documentation of your report
electronically and use the NYSARC online submission form found at
http://www.nybirds.org/NYSARC/goodreport.htm

You can also send reports and digital image files via email to
nysarc44(at)nybirds{dot}org.

If electronic submission is not possible, hardcopy reports and photos or
sketches are welcome. Hardcopy documentation should be mailed to:

Gary Chapin - Secretary
NYS Avian Records Committee (NYSARC)
125 Pine Springs Drive
Ticonderoga, NY 12883

Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
Number: (212) 979-3070

To report sightings call:
Tom Burke (212) 372-1483 (weekdays, during the day)
Tony Lauro at (631) 734-4126 (Long Island)

Compiler: Tom Burke, Tony Lauro
Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County

Transcriber: Ben Cacace

BEGIN TAPE

Greetings. This is the NYS Rare Bird alert for Thursday, December 1st.

The PINK-FOOTED GOOSE originally discovered at Hendrickson Park, Nassu
County on Nov 1, continued to at least Nov 30, and is likely still
frequenting the area.

The female KING EIDER at Ransom Beach, Bayville, found 10 Nov, was present
to at least 16 Nov.

2 MARBLED GODWIT (S) were sighted from a kayak near Big Egg Marsh, Jamaica
Bay on Nov 13, possibly the same birds that have been in the area since
September.

A first winter LITTLE GULL was found off Montauk Point Nov 23, and a first
year GLAUCOUS GULL was loafing on the beach off Lido Park West on 13 Nov.

A RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was found at Bill Richardson Park, Suffolk Nov 18
and 26, and another, an immature male, was photographed at Sunken Meadow SP
on 19 Nov.

A selasphorus hummingbird visiting a private North Fork Long Island feeder
in Aquebogue was first reported to the list 22 Nov, but had apparently been
around for four weeks. So far there are no diagnostic photos to pin it to
species, and no further reports.

A WESTERN KINGBIRD was a one-day wonder at Jones Beach West End Nov 19.

An ASH-THROATED FLYCATCHER discovered at Lido West Park in Nassau County
Nov 13 was still being reported at least to Nov 27. Another Ash-throat was
found at the less accessible Bushwick Inlet Park, Brooklyn Nov 19-20.

At least two YELLOW-BREASTED CHAT (S) remain in lower Manhattan NYC parks;
one at Trinity Church found Nov 3 and still being reported as of Dec 1, the
other near City Hall Park seen at least to the 28th. Other Chat reports
come from Fort Pond Cemetery in Montauk 10 Nov, and Greenwood Cemetery 19
Nov.

Two WESTERN TANAGER (S) were discovered within a day of one another -- a
female at City Hall Park in lower Manhattan on Nov 23 and remaining through
at least Dec 1, and an adult male at Conference House Park on Staten Island
found Nov 24 and reported to at least Nov 27.

RED CROSSBILL (S) are appearing in small, sporadic numbers, with 5-6 at
Jones Beach West End on Nov 19, one at Lido West Park on the 23rd, and 7 at
Jones Beach Nov 27. All were reported to have continued west and did not
linger.

In Westchester, 13 SANDHILL CRANE (S) were photographed flying over
Playland Park in Rye on Nov 23.

To phone in reports on Long Island, call Tony Lauro at (631) 734-4126 or
weekdays call Tom Burke at (212) 372-1483.

The compilers for this week's RBA were Shaibal Mitra and Patricia Lindsay.
Tom Burke is away on vacation. Tony Lauro has been ill for the past few
weeks and we are looking forward to a complete recovery soon.

- End transcript

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[nysbirds-l] Bronx Westchester Christmas Bird Count 2016

[Andrew Baksh]

The Bronx Westchester 2016 Christmas Bird Count will take place on December 
26th. If anyone is interested in participating in joining any of the teams 
covering the West Bronx, please let me know.

For more information please Visit the Bronx Westchester Christmas Bird Count 
site at www.hras.org/bwcbc.html
Here you will find past count summaries, check lists, rare bird forms, and 
interesting history on the count


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
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[nysbirds-l] Bronx Westchester Christmas Bird Count 2016

[Andrew Baksh]

The Bronx Westchester 2016 Christmas Bird Count will take place on December 
26th. If anyone is interested in participating in joining any of the teams 
covering the West Bronx, please let me know.

For more information please Visit the Bronx Westchester Christmas Bird Count 
site at www.hras.org/bwcbc.html
Here you will find past count summaries, check lists, rare bird forms, and 
interesting history on the count


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Susan Herbst]

I watch this very much from the sidelines, I don’t get out to bird as often as 
most of you do, but I will put in a very friendly 2¢. Please don’t jump on me 
for putting this out there. 

I enjoy watching the ebb and flow of the natural world via this list. I enjoy 
seeing that are crossbills out on the parkway or a merlin in Oceanside. (BTW - 
I’ve never seen a crossbill, so it would be exciting for me.) I actually enjoy 
the short essays and wish I was there. "If I have the opportunity to get away 
from my desk," I think, "that’s where I’ll go.”

I sincerely suggest that everyone take a deep breath (or two or three). This 
time of year is stressful for many reasons - particularly this year. Let’s just 
be kind to our fellow birders and understand that no list is perfect for 
everyone. 

Frankly, I’d rather read this list’s emails than the 75 I get with 
advertisements and news I’m sick over. My only advice is, if you don’t care for 
it, delete it. It’s just an email. If you have a better method or want 
different info, create a new list. I know very well how hard it is to cultivate 
a list. It’s hard work and takes years to build something substantial and 
useful. You simply can’t please everyone - and those people will move on to 
something that fits better for them.

Thank you to everyone who posts and shares - it is appreciated, at least by me. 
Be kind to each other.
Happy Birding & (as always) I hope to get out there soon. 
Peace Out!
Sue Herbst




> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> And there it is right there. "It seems that in reporting, like life, one 
> man's ceiling is another man's floor."
> 
> All it takes is a bit of common sense (I know it is not common), to figure 
> out what might be interesting and how often to report. Some get it while 
> others well...want to be heard and that too, is okay.
> 
> Perhaps, rather than kvetching over what should be posted, folks would be 
> better off getting out there and finding birds. If successful, post them 
> using whatever medium but ensuring (if the find is noteworthy) that it 
> reaches the wider birding community. Which is where this discussion kicked 
> off - see the Brooklyn ATFL.
> 
> Shaming anyone into not posting because of posting what "you" deem to be 
> unworthy is non productive and just serves to alienate and drive people away. 
> I have seen this happening already where many folks have resorted to creating 
> text groups or using other tools of communication that shield them from the 
> too oft critics that seem to spend more time criticizing than reporting 
> anything.
> 
> Furthermore, let's hope this argument on which audience or what NYS birds 
> cater to is now beaten to death never to raise its head again.
> 
> Inclusive not exclusive this thing of ours should be.
> 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風　Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   The Art of War 
> 
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com 
> 
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Mike  > wrote:
> 
>> See, I would have just assumed the CBS News crew was on the scene because 
>> the the rabid coyote was also in the running for a cabinet post. 
>> 
 Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the 
 Hulkster and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Cooper
>> Ridge, LI, NY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME 
>> 
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES 
>> 
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm 
>> 
>> 
>> ARCHIVES:
>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 
>> 
>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 
>> 
>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Please submit your observations to eBird:
>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ 
>> 
>> --
>> 
> --
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 

Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Susan Herbst]

I watch this very much from the sidelines, I don’t get out to bird as often as 
most of you do, but I will put in a very friendly 2¢. Please don’t jump on me 
for putting this out there. 

I enjoy watching the ebb and flow of the natural world via this list. I enjoy 
seeing that are crossbills out on the parkway or a merlin in Oceanside. (BTW - 
I’ve never seen a crossbill, so it would be exciting for me.) I actually enjoy 
the short essays and wish I was there. "If I have the opportunity to get away 
from my desk," I think, "that’s where I’ll go.”

I sincerely suggest that everyone take a deep breath (or two or three). This 
time of year is stressful for many reasons - particularly this year. Let’s just 
be kind to our fellow birders and understand that no list is perfect for 
everyone. 

Frankly, I’d rather read this list’s emails than the 75 I get with 
advertisements and news I’m sick over. My only advice is, if you don’t care for 
it, delete it. It’s just an email. If you have a better method or want 
different info, create a new list. I know very well how hard it is to cultivate 
a list. It’s hard work and takes years to build something substantial and 
useful. You simply can’t please everyone - and those people will move on to 
something that fits better for them.

Thank you to everyone who posts and shares - it is appreciated, at least by me. 
Be kind to each other.
Happy Birding & (as always) I hope to get out there soon. 
Peace Out!
Sue Herbst




> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> And there it is right there. "It seems that in reporting, like life, one 
> man's ceiling is another man's floor."
> 
> All it takes is a bit of common sense (I know it is not common), to figure 
> out what might be interesting and how often to report. Some get it while 
> others well...want to be heard and that too, is okay.
> 
> Perhaps, rather than kvetching over what should be posted, folks would be 
> better off getting out there and finding birds. If successful, post them 
> using whatever medium but ensuring (if the find is noteworthy) that it 
> reaches the wider birding community. Which is where this discussion kicked 
> off - see the Brooklyn ATFL.
> 
> Shaming anyone into not posting because of posting what "you" deem to be 
> unworthy is non productive and just serves to alienate and drive people away. 
> I have seen this happening already where many folks have resorted to creating 
> text groups or using other tools of communication that shield them from the 
> too oft critics that seem to spend more time criticizing than reporting 
> anything.
> 
> Furthermore, let's hope this argument on which audience or what NYS birds 
> cater to is now beaten to death never to raise its head again.
> 
> Inclusive not exclusive this thing of ours should be.
> 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風　Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   The Art of War 
> 
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com 
> 
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Mike  > wrote:
> 
>> See, I would have just assumed the CBS News crew was on the scene because 
>> the the rabid coyote was also in the running for a cabinet post. 
>> 
 Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the 
 Hulkster and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Cooper
>> Ridge, LI, NY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME 
>> 
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES 
>> 
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm 
>> 
>> 
>> ARCHIVES:
>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 
>> 
>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 
>> 
>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Please submit your observations to eBird:
>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ 
>> 
>> --
>> 
> --
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 
> Subscribe, 

[nysbirds-l] Western Tanager- yes

[Jack Rothman]

Easily seen in tall tree on east west path between City Hall and Municipal Bldg.
Black-throated Blue, Sapsucker also seen. 
Jack Rothman

Sent from Jack's phone.
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[nysbirds-l] Western Tanager- yes

[Jack Rothman]

Easily seen in tall tree on east west path between City Hall and Municipal Bldg.
Black-throated Blue, Sapsucker also seen. 
Jack Rothman

Sent from Jack's phone.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Andrew Baksh]

And there it is right there. "It seems that in reporting, like life, one man's 
ceiling is another man's floor."

All it takes is a bit of common sense (I know it is not common), to figure out 
what might be interesting and how often to report. Some get it while others 
well...want to be heard and that too, is okay.

Perhaps, rather than kvetching over what should be posted, folks would be 
better off getting out there and finding birds. If successful, post them using 
whatever medium but ensuring (if the find is noteworthy) that it reaches the 
wider birding community. Which is where this discussion kicked off - see the 
Brooklyn ATFL.

Shaming anyone into not posting because of posting what "you" deem to be 
unworthy is non productive and just serves to alienate and drive people away. I 
have seen this happening already where many folks have resorted to creating 
text groups or using other tools of communication that shield them from the too 
oft critics that seem to spend more time criticizing than reporting anything.

Furthermore, let's hope this argument on which audience or what NYS birds cater 
to is now beaten to death never to raise its head again.

Inclusive not exclusive this thing of ours should be.


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> See, I would have just assumed the CBS News crew was on the scene because the 
> the rabid coyote was also in the running for a cabinet post. 
> 
>>> Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the 
>>> Hulkster and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.
> 
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
> 
> ARCHIVES:
> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
> 
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
> 
> --
> 

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ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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Please submit your observations to eBird:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Andrew Baksh]

And there it is right there. "It seems that in reporting, like life, one man's 
ceiling is another man's floor."

All it takes is a bit of common sense (I know it is not common), to figure out 
what might be interesting and how often to report. Some get it while others 
well...want to be heard and that too, is okay.

Perhaps, rather than kvetching over what should be posted, folks would be 
better off getting out there and finding birds. If successful, post them using 
whatever medium but ensuring (if the find is noteworthy) that it reaches the 
wider birding community. Which is where this discussion kicked off - see the 
Brooklyn ATFL.

Shaming anyone into not posting because of posting what "you" deem to be 
unworthy is non productive and just serves to alienate and drive people away. I 
have seen this happening already where many folks have resorted to creating 
text groups or using other tools of communication that shield them from the too 
oft critics that seem to spend more time criticizing than reporting anything.

Furthermore, let's hope this argument on which audience or what NYS birds cater 
to is now beaten to death never to raise its head again.

Inclusive not exclusive this thing of ours should be.


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> See, I would have just assumed the CBS News crew was on the scene because the 
> the rabid coyote was also in the running for a cabinet post. 
> 
>>> Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the 
>>> Hulkster and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.
> 
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
> 
> ARCHIVES:
> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
> 
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
> 
> --
> 

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ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html

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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[TwoSides22]

How about a warning in the subject line that the post includes  politics.  
This is one place I had hoped to be able to get away from it. 
 
Jeanne
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2016 9:06:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
trachtenb...@amsllp.com writes:

It seems  that in reporting, like life, one man's ceiling is another man's 
floor. While  I do know how to use the "delete" key, filtering is beyond my 
computer skill  set. However, in the last week alone didn't we all see more 
annoying "Black  Friday", "Cyber Monday", and "Giving Tuesday" emails in our 
inboxes than we  see "annoying," to some at least, NYSBird posts like this 
one in a month? As  to birds, today before the sun could warm things at 
Croton Point Park, I  managed little more than mourning doves, mallards, Canada 
geese and a few  common sparrows -- no "good" let alone "rare" birds.. 
However, such "unworthy"  reporting species seemed apropos as our Kakistocracy 
takes hold. Indeed, with  S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps 
the Hulkster and Rowdy  Roddy Piper are on deck.  And to round out the 
craziness I stopped to say  hello to two CBS TV crews this morning assigned to 
cover, for what purpose  they could not exactly say, an alleged single rabid 
coyote at a condo complex  in Ossining.  

Fair and balanced bird reporting please. 

L.  Trachtenberg
Ossining


-Original Message-
From:  bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu  
[mailto:bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal  Mitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS  (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

Hi  everyone,

In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this  listserv: (1) 
discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts  that are 
more relevant.

But given the very diverse sentiments expressed  here in recent weeks, it's 
clear that people simply disagree about what is  relevant. But criticizing 
certain kinds of posts is doubly harmful: not only  is it demonstrably 
ineffective in reducing the frequency of the unwanted  posts, whatever they may 
be in a particular instance, but it also discourages  contributions from 
newer participants and those who don't appreciate being  criticized. In other 
words, this ineffective tactic inadvertently conflicts  with and damages the 
prospects for the only other means of improving the  forum. I agree with 
those who have emphasized that neither the overall volume  of reports, nor the 
proportion of what any one individual might regard as  chaff, is ever great 
enough to discourage me from sifting this site every day  for items of 
personal interest.

These considerations came to mind  recently when I overheard some Long 
Island birders debating whether to chase  an Ash-throated Flycatcher (to me 
very 
rare) vs. "the Red Crossbill" (to me  periodically ubiquitous). At this 
stage in my life, I'd much rather read a  post from Tim Healy or Steve Walter 
about the tempo and mode of a day's  migration than a how-to guide to chasing 
"the Red Crossbill." But I understand  that some newer birders might 
actually have seen more Ash-throated Flycatchers  than Red Crossbills, even 
though 
this is utterly contrary to my own  development as a birder. And all of 
this is what makes birding, and NYSBirds,  so wonderful--not only can we find 
how-to information for chasing (arguably)  rare birds, but we are also 
offered insights into other people's perspectives  and values. Please post more!

Shai Mitra
Bay  Shore
--

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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[TwoSides22]

How about a warning in the subject line that the post includes  politics.  
This is one place I had hoped to be able to get away from it. 
 
Jeanne
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2016 9:06:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
trachtenb...@amsllp.com writes:

It seems  that in reporting, like life, one man's ceiling is another man's 
floor. While  I do know how to use the "delete" key, filtering is beyond my 
computer skill  set. However, in the last week alone didn't we all see more 
annoying "Black  Friday", "Cyber Monday", and "Giving Tuesday" emails in our 
inboxes than we  see "annoying," to some at least, NYSBird posts like this 
one in a month? As  to birds, today before the sun could warm things at 
Croton Point Park, I  managed little more than mourning doves, mallards, Canada 
geese and a few  common sparrows -- no "good" let alone "rare" birds.. 
However, such "unworthy"  reporting species seemed apropos as our Kakistocracy 
takes hold. Indeed, with  S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps 
the Hulkster and Rowdy  Roddy Piper are on deck.  And to round out the 
craziness I stopped to say  hello to two CBS TV crews this morning assigned to 
cover, for what purpose  they could not exactly say, an alleged single rabid 
coyote at a condo complex  in Ossining.  

Fair and balanced bird reporting please. 

L.  Trachtenberg
Ossining


-Original Message-
From:  bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu  
[mailto:bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal  Mitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS  (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

Hi  everyone,

In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this  listserv: (1) 
discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts  that are 
more relevant.

But given the very diverse sentiments expressed  here in recent weeks, it's 
clear that people simply disagree about what is  relevant. But criticizing 
certain kinds of posts is doubly harmful: not only  is it demonstrably 
ineffective in reducing the frequency of the unwanted  posts, whatever they may 
be in a particular instance, but it also discourages  contributions from 
newer participants and those who don't appreciate being  criticized. In other 
words, this ineffective tactic inadvertently conflicts  with and damages the 
prospects for the only other means of improving the  forum. I agree with 
those who have emphasized that neither the overall volume  of reports, nor the 
proportion of what any one individual might regard as  chaff, is ever great 
enough to discourage me from sifting this site every day  for items of 
personal interest.

These considerations came to mind  recently when I overheard some Long 
Island birders debating whether to chase  an Ash-throated Flycatcher (to me 
very 
rare) vs. "the Red Crossbill" (to me  periodically ubiquitous). At this 
stage in my life, I'd much rather read a  post from Tim Healy or Steve Walter 
about the tempo and mode of a day's  migration than a how-to guide to chasing 
"the Red Crossbill." But I understand  that some newer birders might 
actually have seen more Ash-throated Flycatchers  than Red Crossbills, even 
though 
this is utterly contrary to my own  development as a birder. And all of 
this is what makes birding, and NYSBirds,  so wonderful--not only can we find 
how-to information for chasing (arguably)  rare birds, but we are also 
offered insights into other people's perspectives  and values. Please post more!

Shai Mitra
Bay  Shore
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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Mike]

See, I would have just assumed the CBS News crew was on the scene because the 
the rabid coyote was also in the running for a cabinet post. 

>>Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the Hulkster 
>>and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.


Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY




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Re: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Mike]

See, I would have just assumed the CBS News crew was on the scene because the 
the rabid coyote was also in the running for a cabinet post. 

>>Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the Hulkster 
>>and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.


Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY




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RE:[nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Larry Trachtenberg]

It seems that in reporting, like life, one man's ceiling is another man's 
floor. While I do know how to use the "delete" key, filtering is beyond my 
computer skill set. However, in the last week alone didn't we all see more 
annoying "Black Friday", "Cyber Monday", and "Giving Tuesday" emails in our 
inboxes than we see "annoying," to some at least, NYSBird posts like this one 
in a month? As to birds, today before the sun could warm things at Croton Point 
Park, I managed little more than mourning doves, mallards, Canada geese and a 
few common sparrows -- no "good" let alone "rare" birds.. However, such 
"unworthy" reporting species seemed apropos as our Kakistocracy takes hold. 
Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the Hulkster 
and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.  And to round out the craziness I stopped to 
say hello to two CBS TV crews this morning assigned to cover, for what purpose 
they could not exactly say, an alleged single rabid coyote at a condo complex 
in Ossining.  

Fair and balanced bird reporting please. 

L. Trachtenberg
Ossining


-Original Message-
From: bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

Hi everyone,

In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this listserv: (1) 
discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts that are more 
relevant.

But given the very diverse sentiments expressed here in recent weeks, it's 
clear that people simply disagree about what is relevant. But criticizing 
certain kinds of posts is doubly harmful: not only is it demonstrably 
ineffective in reducing the frequency of the unwanted posts, whatever they may 
be in a particular instance, but it also discourages contributions from newer 
participants and those who don't appreciate being criticized. In other words, 
this ineffective tactic inadvertently conflicts with and damages the prospects 
for the only other means of improving the forum. I agree with those who have 
emphasized that neither the overall volume of reports, nor the proportion of 
what any one individual might regard as chaff, is ever great enough to 
discourage me from sifting this site every day for items of personal interest.

These considerations came to mind recently when I overheard some Long Island 
birders debating whether to chase an Ash-throated Flycatcher (to me very rare) 
vs. "the Red Crossbill" (to me periodically ubiquitous). At this stage in my 
life, I'd much rather read a post from Tim Healy or Steve Walter about the 
tempo and mode of a day's migration than a how-to guide to chasing "the Red 
Crossbill." But I understand that some newer birders might actually have seen 
more Ash-throated Flycatchers than Red Crossbills, even though this is utterly 
contrary to my own development as a birder. And all of this is what makes 
birding, and NYSBirds, so wonderful--not only can we find how-to information 
for chasing (arguably) rare birds, but we are also offered insights into other 
people's perspectives and values. Please post more!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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RE:[nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[Larry Trachtenberg]

It seems that in reporting, like life, one man's ceiling is another man's 
floor. While I do know how to use the "delete" key, filtering is beyond my 
computer skill set. However, in the last week alone didn't we all see more 
annoying "Black Friday", "Cyber Monday", and "Giving Tuesday" emails in our 
inboxes than we see "annoying," to some at least, NYSBird posts like this one 
in a month? As to birds, today before the sun could warm things at Croton Point 
Park, I managed little more than mourning doves, mallards, Canada geese and a 
few common sparrows -- no "good" let alone "rare" birds.. However, such 
"unworthy" reporting species seemed apropos as our Kakistocracy takes hold. 
Indeed, with S. Palin and Linda McMahon in consideration perhaps the Hulkster 
and Rowdy Roddy Piper are on deck.  And to round out the craziness I stopped to 
say hello to two CBS TV crews this morning assigned to cover, for what purpose 
they could not exactly say, an alleged single rabid coyote at a condo complex 
in Ossining.  

Fair and balanced bird reporting please. 

L. Trachtenberg
Ossining


-Original Message-
From: bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121044984-10490...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

Hi everyone,

In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this listserv: (1) 
discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts that are more 
relevant.

But given the very diverse sentiments expressed here in recent weeks, it's 
clear that people simply disagree about what is relevant. But criticizing 
certain kinds of posts is doubly harmful: not only is it demonstrably 
ineffective in reducing the frequency of the unwanted posts, whatever they may 
be in a particular instance, but it also discourages contributions from newer 
participants and those who don't appreciate being criticized. In other words, 
this ineffective tactic inadvertently conflicts with and damages the prospects 
for the only other means of improving the forum. I agree with those who have 
emphasized that neither the overall volume of reports, nor the proportion of 
what any one individual might regard as chaff, is ever great enough to 
discourage me from sifting this site every day for items of personal interest.

These considerations came to mind recently when I overheard some Long Island 
birders debating whether to chase an Ash-throated Flycatcher (to me very rare) 
vs. "the Red Crossbill" (to me periodically ubiquitous). At this stage in my 
life, I'd much rather read a post from Tim Healy or Steve Walter about the 
tempo and mode of a day's migration than a how-to guide to chasing "the Red 
Crossbill." But I understand that some newer birders might actually have seen 
more Ash-throated Flycatchers than Red Crossbills, even though this is utterly 
contrary to my own development as a birder. And all of this is what makes 
birding, and NYSBirds, so wonderful--not only can we find how-to information 
for chasing (arguably) rare birds, but we are also offered insights into other 
people's perspectives and values. Please post more!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html

Please submit your observations to eBird:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/

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Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Trinity Church: Yellow-breasted Chat

[Ben Cacace]

Continues north side of church feeding with HOSP and WTSP off Memorial Garden 
on west side of cemetery. Seen at 8:45a. Wall St. location.

Ben Cacace
Manhattan, NYC

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[nysbirds-l] Trinity Church: Yellow-breasted Chat

[Ben Cacace]

Continues north side of church feeding with HOSP and WTSP off Memorial Garden 
on west side of cemetery. Seen at 8:45a. Wall St. location.

Ben Cacace
Manhattan, NYC

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RE:[nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[McIntyre, Annie (PARKS)]

I agree with Shai, eloquently and succinctly expressed, as always. 

Hope you all enjoy this beautiful day!
 Annie 


-Original Message-
From: bounce-121044984-10774...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121044984-10774...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.


Hi everyone,

In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this listserv: (1) 
discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts that are more 
relevant.

But given the very diverse sentiments expressed here in recent weeks, it's 
clear that people simply disagree about what is relevant. But criticizing 
certain kinds of posts is doubly harmful: not only is it demonstrably 
ineffective in reducing the frequency of the unwanted posts, whatever they may 
be in a particular instance, but it also discourages contributions from newer 
participants and those who don't appreciate being criticized. In other words, 
this ineffective tactic inadvertently conflicts with and damages the prospects 
for the only other means of improving the forum. I agree with those who have 
emphasized that neither the overall volume of reports, nor the proportion of 
what any one individual might regard as chaff, is ever great enough to 
discourage me from sifting this site every day for items of personal interest.

These considerations came to mind recently when I overheard some Long Island 
birders debating whether to chase an Ash-throated Flycatcher (to me very rare) 
vs. "the Red Crossbill" (to me periodically ubiquitous). At this stage in my 
life, I'd much rather read a post from Tim Healy or Steve Walter about the 
tempo and mode of a day's migration than a how-to guide to chasing "the Red 
Crossbill." But I understand that some newer birders might actually have seen 
more Ash-throated Flycatchers than Red Crossbills, even though this is utterly 
contrary to my own development as a birder. And all of this is what makes 
birding, and NYSBirds, so wonderful--not only can we find how-to information 
for chasing (arguably) rare birds, but we are also offered insights into other 
people's perspectives and values. Please post more!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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Please submit your observations to eBird:
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RE:[nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

[McIntyre, Annie (PARKS)]

I agree with Shai, eloquently and succinctly expressed, as always. 

Hope you all enjoy this beautiful day!
 Annie 


-Original Message-
From: bounce-121044984-10774...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121044984-10774...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] The NYSBirds List

ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.


Hi everyone,

In theory there are two ways to reform the content of this listserv: (1) 
discourage posts that are less relevant; and (2) encourage posts that are more 
relevant.

But given the very diverse sentiments expressed here in recent weeks, it's 
clear that people simply disagree about what is relevant. But criticizing 
certain kinds of posts is doubly harmful: not only is it demonstrably 
ineffective in reducing the frequency of the unwanted posts, whatever they may 
be in a particular instance, but it also discourages contributions from newer 
participants and those who don't appreciate being criticized. In other words, 
this ineffective tactic inadvertently conflicts with and damages the prospects 
for the only other means of improving the forum. I agree with those who have 
emphasized that neither the overall volume of reports, nor the proportion of 
what any one individual might regard as chaff, is ever great enough to 
discourage me from sifting this site every day for items of personal interest.

These considerations came to mind recently when I overheard some Long Island 
birders debating whether to chase an Ash-throated Flycatcher (to me very rare) 
vs. "the Red Crossbill" (to me periodically ubiquitous). At this stage in my 
life, I'd much rather read a post from Tim Healy or Steve Walter about the 
tempo and mode of a day's migration than a how-to guide to chasing "the Red 
Crossbill." But I understand that some newer birders might actually have seen 
more Ash-throated Flycatchers than Red Crossbills, even though this is utterly 
contrary to my own development as a birder. And all of this is what makes 
birding, and NYSBirds, so wonderful--not only can we find how-to information 
for chasing (arguably) rare birds, but we are also offered insights into other 
people's perspectives and values. Please post more!

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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