Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl problem
Dear Mr. Lazaro, What you describe has been an ongoing problem for as long as I can remember. The blatant type of harassment you describe is against the law as useless expenditure of energy threatens the owls very lives. If you see this again call for a DEC Wildlife Enforcement Officer. People should carry thees #'s with their cell phones. Region 1 (Long Island) Law enforcement # is 631-444-0250 On weekends statewide call the 24/7 Dispatch # 877-457-5680 Although the officer may not get there in time just telling the folks involved in the harassment that a DEC cop is on the way could solve the problem. Thank you for posting this. Rick K. NYS-DEC WRL On Dec 21, 2014, at 9:50 PM, John Lazaro wrote: Today my girlfriend and I had the pleasure of seeing a beautiful snowy owl at Jones Beach next to the jetty. As we approached the jetty we saw the bird fly in and settle close to a pair of photographers. As we watched the photographers approach the bird, they caused it to fly further down the beach. I thought it was unfortunate that the bird was disturbed like that and was incredulous as I watched the photographers walk down the beach to where the bird had landed and flushed it again. Upon speaking with some other birders at the jetty we discovered that these same photographers had been there for two hours chasing this poor bird up and down the beach. I have seen this behavior before in Maine. The attitude that these birds exist only for us to take photos of them. The light wasn't great today and one of the photographers was using a flash to try and light the birds beautiful eyes. I'm appealing to all of my fellow birders to help discourage this kind of behavior. These birds have value as individuals and deserve a rest after their long journey. They are exhausted and just need some nice prey and a safe place to rest. I'm hoping that the photographers I saw today are reading this post and will refrain from treating other wild animals in this manner. Happy birding and Happy Holidays to you all. Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] E Bluebirds - Alley Pond Park, Queens
11-30-14 , 12 noon. Good views of three E Bluebirds behind the green metal storage sheds that hold the equipment for the Challenge course. (2 mature males & one Juv.) To the east of the handball courts & north of the soccer field there were 8-10 Hermit Thrush. Also seen 2 Catbirds and 1 Golden-crowned Kinglet, Sharp-shined & Red- tailed Hawks. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] E Bluebirds - Alley Pond Park, Queens
11-30-14 , 12 noon. Good views of three E Bluebirds behind the green metal storage sheds that hold the equipment for the Challenge course. (2 mature males one Juv.) To the east of the handball courts north of the soccer field there were 8-10 Hermit Thrush. Also seen 2 Catbirds and 1 Golden-crowned Kinglet, Sharp-shined Red- tailed Hawks. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] APP., Queens
Oct 5, 2014, 9AM - 12PM. Alley Pond Park - Sunny, breezy, 51 degrees F. After yesterday's rain a cold front with north winds brought many migrant birds to Alley Pond Park, Queens. Large numbers of N Flicker seen in many locations. Particularly 14 on the ball field next to the handball courts. RC Kinglet, Blue-headed Vireo, Red-eyed Vireo, N Parula, Black- throated Blue Warbler (pair), Yellow-rumped(many), Tennessee, Black- pole, Chestnut-sided, Palm (many), Common Yellowthroat, Redstart. Most of the warblers were seen between Little Alley Pond and the Park House. Also the kettle hole dips birds on Hercules Club. Song Sparrow White-throated Sparrow -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] APP., Queens
Oct 5, 2014, 9AM - 12PM. Alley Pond Park - Sunny, breezy, 51 degrees F. After yesterday's rain a cold front with north winds brought many migrant birds to Alley Pond Park, Queens. Large numbers of N Flicker seen in many locations. Particularly 14 on the ball field next to the handball courts. RC Kinglet, Blue-headed Vireo, Red-eyed Vireo, N Parula, Black- throated Blue Warbler (pair), Yellow-rumped(many), Tennessee, Black- pole, Chestnut-sided, Palm (many), Common Yellowthroat, Redstart. Most of the warblers were seen between Little Alley Pond and the Park House. Also the kettle hole dips birds on Hercules Club. Song Sparrow White-throated Sparrow -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
I think we are all on the same side here both upstate & down. Linda & I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of the catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned by the NYC for watershed & drinking water reasons. We have birded many areas there that are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and some of that land is part of the NYC Watershed. I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention. We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville & Denning, and we would say most are against this type of killing. Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote: > I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, > but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives > upstate. What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of > the situation. The folks participating in this event do happen to > live "upstate". They will likely not appreciate interference from > folks that live "downstate" such as the Senator. Hence, my > comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives > north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am > sorry you took it that way, but I was referring to the people that > are behind events such as these. Please do not turn this into some > kind of culture war between downstaters and upstaters! This is > about everyone coming together to put an end to something that we > all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes. > > Stella > > > > > > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, > as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up > to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not > between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an > impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > From: Colleen / spider99 > To: Stella Miller > Cc: NYSBIRDS-L > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together. There are > a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions > that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of > killing, not to put food on the table. Even though crows may steal > and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own > predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe we need > to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows! > > So, please don't offend those who are trying to help. > Colleen > - Original Message - > From: Stella Miller > To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin > Cc: NYSBIRDS-L > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > Hi, > > I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to > me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the > error. Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an > eye at this. Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by > state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It is the two > different worlds of "downstate" and "upstate"! I will reach out to > FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask > if he can amend the release. > > Thanks for bringing this to attention! > > Stella > > > > > > > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, > as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up > to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not > between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an > impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > From: Will Raup > To: Linda Orkin > Cc: Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L l...@cornell.edu> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM > Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will > ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York > City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE > DEC laws. > > It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted > New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, > having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, > this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one > line. And I'm being serious. > > Will Raup > Albany, NY > > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release > From: wingmagi...@gmail.com > To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com > CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu > > The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to > say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop > reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. > > Linda > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup > wrote: > Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means > it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you for you consideration. Respectfully yours, Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Stella Miller wrote: > Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. > > Thanks, > > Stella > > > > > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, > as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up > to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not > between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an > impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you for you consideration. Respectfully yours, Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Stella Miller wrote: Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --Crow Hunt PR.docx -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
I think we are all on the same side here both upstate down. Linda I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of the catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned by the NYC for watershed drinking water reasons. We have birded many areas there that are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and some of that land is part of the NYC Watershed. I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention. We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville Denning, and we would say most are against this type of killing. Rick On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote: I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives upstate. What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of the situation. The folks participating in this event do happen to live upstate. They will likely not appreciate interference from folks that live downstate such as the Senator. Hence, my comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am sorry you took it that way, but I was referring to the people that are behind events such as these. Please do not turn this into some kind of culture war between downstaters and upstaters! This is about everyone coming together to put an end to something that we all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Please don't lump all of us who live upstate together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put food on the table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows! So, please don't offend those who are trying to help. Colleen - Original Message - From: Stella Miller To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Hi, I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It is the two different worlds of downstate and upstate! I will reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask if he can amend the release. Thanks for bringing this to attention! Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds- l...@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws. It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious. Will Raup Albany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release From: wingmagi...@gmail.com To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that? The senator refers only to NYS. Linda On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC, means it will be ignored. It
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject:Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall "4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie". You may gather and eat different things, however that does not negatively define us as sportsmen. RVW Gun Club Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg wrote: Dear RVW Club. As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI. I know you have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC. However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and appreciate nature long ago. I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters. Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote: > Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk > and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris > Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. > > But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. > > And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ > events/258725434301388/ > > Larry Federman > President, Northern Catskills Audubon > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject:Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall "4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie". You may gather and eat different things, however that does not negatively define us as sportsmen. RVW Gun Club Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg wrote: Dear RVW Club. As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI. I know you have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC. However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and appreciate nature long ago. I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters. Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote: > Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk > and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris > Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. > > But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. > > And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ > events/258725434301388/ > > Larry Federman > President, Northern Catskills Audubon > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are gathering the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject:Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie. You may gather and eat different things, however that does not negatively define us as sportsmen. RVW Gun Club Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net wrote: Dear RVW Club. As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI. I know you have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC. However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and appreciate nature long ago. I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters. Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote: Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ events/258725434301388/ Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
Dear Larry and others, I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what any of us think. It's preposterous that they are gathering the crows to eat. Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story. Anyone else have any contacts along these lines. Best Rick From: r...@hvc.rr.com Subject:Re: Crow Shoot Date: March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net Rick, Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected. We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie. You may gather and eat different things, however that does not negatively define us as sportsmen. RVW Gun Club Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net wrote: Dear RVW Club. As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI. I know you have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC. However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and appreciate nature long ago. I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters. Rick Kedenburg rickkedenb...@optonline.net On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote: Yes, this is a State issue. Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez. Our US congressman is Chris Gibson. I will be reaching out to all of their offices. But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this. And their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ events/258725434301388/ Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I am outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me into birding long ago. Thank you to those in this group for letting us know how best to address this issue. Stella, let us know Audubon New York's position on this and if they will advocate to stop this. Rick & Linda Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Stella Miller wrote: > By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their > FB page. A few of us had already made comments. > > Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it. > > Stella > > > > > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, > as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up > to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not > between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an > impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > From: Richard > To: Jonathan Perez > Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo > ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim > Osterlund > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County > > The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule > generated or regulated at the state level. > > Sent from my wireless tin can > > On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez > wrote: > >> I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. >> As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative. >> Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents >> Palenville. >> >> Here is his contact from a general Google search. http:// >> tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ >> >> Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. >> >> -Jonathan >> >> Jonathan A. Perez >> >> J.D. Candidate >> American University Washington College of Law, 2015 >> M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 >> B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog >> wrote: >> Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. >> Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. >> http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html >> Lynne Hertzog >> On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo" >> wrote: >> Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? >> This reminds me of >> The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow >> >> >> >> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund >> wrote: >> There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids >> in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September >> through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose >> our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- >> >> >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- >> >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
I am outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family groups. My fascination with them led me into birding long ago. Thank you to those in this group for letting us know how best to address this issue. Stella, let us know Audubon New York's position on this and if they will advocate to stop this. Rick Linda Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Stella Miller wrote: By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their FB page. A few of us had already made comments. Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it. Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com Cc: Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule generated or regulated at the state level. Sent from my wireless tin can On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com wrote: I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list. As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative. Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents Palenville. Here is his contact from a general Google search. http:// tonko.house.gov/contact-me/ Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed. -Jonathan Jonathan A. Perez J.D. Candidate American University Washington College of Law, 2015 M.A., University of Virginia, 2008 B.A., Bowdoin College 2005 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting. Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html Lynne Hertzog On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this? This reminds me of The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund james...@optonline.net wrote: There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September through March. They make no distinction of species, so I suppose our feeble return of Corvus corax only adds targets. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --crow hunt.JPG -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] ORIENT CBC & Roy Latham
Hi NYS Birders, Hope I am not boring you all with this.Here are the highlights of the Orient Count as presented to NF Birds by Mary Laura Lamont, Compiler of the count.I have also included a PDF & Word doc describing the life history of one of NY State's greatest naturalists, our own Roy Latham of Orient. Born 1881. He started the Orient Christmas count as a young man and it is one of the oldest in the USA. The information is from The Long Island Botanical Society Newsletter: Vol 3 No. 1 of Jan- Fed 1993 I believe some of it was written by Eric Lamont, one of Roy's biographers. LONG ISLAND BOTANICAL SOCIETYFounded: 1986; Incorporated: 1989.The Long Island Botanical Society is dedicated to thepromotion of field botany and a greater understanding ofthe plants that grow wild on Long Island, New York.Best Rick -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- ROYLATHAM1881.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ROY LATHAM 1881.doc Description: Binary data Here are some terrific highlights of the Orient Christmas Bird Count, held 12-28-2013 118 species total, with sectors listed where those birds were foundThe Orient Count is a great cooperative group effort by many, many people.I want to thank everyone, and that means everyone, from the great leaders of all 9 sectors, to the feeder watchers, to the bird counters and finders,to the State workers who help with driving in the State Park, to the Town of Southold who closed deer hunting on their properties for the day, to the Plum Island folks,and the people who allow us access to their private properties. A TOTAL GROUP EFFORT! Red-necked grebe (Sag Harbor, Jessup's Neck, Orient)Great egret (Jessup's Neck)Lesser scaup (Greenport, Shelter Island east) Harlequin duck (Orient)Barrow's goldeneye (Sag Harbor)Bald eagle (Southold North, Orient, Mashomack, Shelter Island West & East, Jessup's Neck) Rough-legged hawk (Southold South, Shelter island East)Kestrel (Orient, Shelter Island East)Peregrine falcon (Orient)Northern bobwhite (Shelter Island east)Killdeer (Southold South) Red knot (Orient)Woodcock (Mashomack)Iceland gull (Orient)Lesser black-backed gull (Southold South)Razorbill (Southold North, Orient) Dovekie (Sag Harbor)Black guillemott (Orient)Snowy owl (Orient, Jessup's Neck)Rufous hummingbird (Southold South) Eastern phoebe (Orient)House wren (Shelter Island east)Marsh wren (Greenport, Orient)Ruby-crowned kinglet (Shelter Island east)American pipit (Orient)Pam warbler (Mashomack) Yellow-breasted chat (Jessup's Neck)Lark sparrow (Orient)This is just a few!MaryLaura Lamont, Compiler of the Orient Christmas Bird Count
[nysbirds-l] ORIENT CBC Roy Latham
Hi NYS Birders, Hope I am not boring you all with this.Here are the highlights of the Orient Count as presented to NF Birds by Mary Laura Lamont, Compiler of the count.I have also included a PDF Word doc describing the life history of one of NY State's greatest naturalists, our own Roy Latham of Orient. Born 1881. He started the Orient Christmas count as a young man and it is one of the oldest in the USA.The information is from The Long Island Botanical Society Newsletter: Vol 3 No. 1 of Jan- Fed 1993 I believe some of it was written by Eric Lamont, one of Roy's biographers.LONG ISLAND BOTANICAL SOCIETYFounded: 1986; Incorporated: 1989.The Long Island Botanical Society is dedicated to thepromotion of field botany and a greater understanding ofthe plants that grow wild on Long Island, New York.Best Rick -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- ROYLATHAM1881.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ROY LATHAM 1881.doc Description: Binary data Here are some terrific highlights of the Orient Christmas Bird Count, held 12-28-2013 118 species total, with sectors listed where those birds were foundThe Orient Count is a great cooperative group effort by many, many people.I want to thank everyone, and that means everyone, from the great leaders of all 9 sectors, to the feeder watchers, to the bird counters and finders,to the State workers who help with driving in the State Park, to the Town of Southold who closed deer hunting on their properties for the day, to the Plum Island folks,and the people who allow us access to their private properties. A TOTAL GROUP EFFORT! Red-necked grebe (Sag Harbor, Jessup's Neck, Orient)Great egret (Jessup's Neck)Lesser scaup (Greenport, Shelter Island east) Harlequin duck (Orient)Barrow's goldeneye (Sag Harbor)Bald eagle (Southold North, Orient, Mashomack, Shelter Island West East, Jessup's Neck) Rough-legged hawk (Southold South, Shelter island East)Kestrel (Orient, Shelter Island East)Peregrine falcon (Orient)Northern bobwhite (Shelter Island east)Killdeer (Southold South) Red knot (Orient)Woodcock (Mashomack)Iceland gull (Orient)Lesser black-backed gull (Southold South)Razorbill (Southold North, Orient) Dovekie (Sag Harbor)Black guillemott (Orient)Snowy owl (Orient, Jessup's Neck)Rufous hummingbird (Southold South) Eastern phoebe (Orient)House wren (Shelter Island east)Marsh wren (Greenport, Orient)Ruby-crowned kinglet (Shelter Island east)American pipit (Orient)Pam warbler (Mashomack) Yellow-breasted chat (Jessup's Neck)Lark sparrow (Orient)This is just a few!MaryLaura Lamont, Compiler of the Orient Christmas Bird Count
[nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls
Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get more done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the regular contact protocol on their website. Rick Begin forwarded message: > From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg > Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST > To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov > Subject: Wasting taxpayers money > > Dear Inspector General, > > This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are > misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when > they migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are > no threat to aircraft! > > Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like > stealing money from the taxpayers while violating common decency. > Rick Kedenburg > > > Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York City's airports Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an airplane turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that 'wildlife specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes. Comments (32) BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2013, 2:25 AM > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North Fork Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to north-fork-birds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls
Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get more done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the regular contact protocol on their website. Rick Begin forwarded message: From: Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov Subject: Wasting taxpayers money Dear Inspector General, This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when they migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are no threat to aircraft! Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like stealing money from the taxpayers while violating common decency. Rick Kedenburg Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York City's airports Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an airplane turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that 'wildlife specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes. Comments (32) BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2013, 2:25 AM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups North Fork Birds group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to north-fork-birds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Environs Orient
11-19-13 Gettysburg Address Day. If you haven't read it in some time please take the time to read it again. (Rick's Soapbox) The following observations are from a North Fork Audubon field trip this morning. Causeway & Orient Yacht Club; Red-Throated Loon Narrow River Road; Bufflehead, C Loon, Several Great Blue Heron, Northern Harrier (Gray Ghost), Red-tailed Hawk, Yellow-rumped Warbler, Chipping Sparrow, Savannah-Ipiwsch type, No Seaside Sparrows, Song, Swamp, White- throated, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Junco, House Finch. Orient Point-Plum Gut Common Eider, Long-tailed Duck, Yellow-rumped Warbler. Orient State Park; Bufflehead, C. Loon, Cormorant, Many BC Chickadees, Yellow-rumped Warblers, and DE Juncos in the scrubby pines near the kayak rental area. We noticed upon arriving and leaving the park two distinct flocks of Snow Buntings. ( some in fine plumage ) The first flock was at the 1/2 mile marker and consisted of 30 birds. The Second was in the area of the beach and comfort station at the main parking lot and was about 25 birds. On the road leaving the park ( at about the 1 mile marker ) there were many White-throated Sparrows & DE Juncos. BTW: No one showed up for the field trip. Linda & I decided to lead it anyway for ourselves. It was a glorious day out there. Windy, but not too cold. Watching the creatures around us we thought of the cold times ahead for many of then and the constant search for food and shelter. Somehow they carry on, sometimes the better partners in life of even our own human sprit. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Environs Orient
11-19-13 Gettysburg Address Day. If you haven't read it in some time please take the time to read it again. (Rick's Soapbox) The following observations are from a North Fork Audubon field trip this morning. Causeway Orient Yacht Club; Red-Throated Loon Narrow River Road; Bufflehead, C Loon, Several Great Blue Heron, Northern Harrier (Gray Ghost), Red-tailed Hawk, Yellow-rumped Warbler, Chipping Sparrow, Savannah-Ipiwsch type, No Seaside Sparrows, Song, Swamp, White- throated, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Junco, House Finch. Orient Point-Plum Gut Common Eider, Long-tailed Duck, Yellow-rumped Warbler. Orient State Park; Bufflehead, C. Loon, Cormorant, Many BC Chickadees, Yellow-rumped Warblers, and DE Juncos in the scrubby pines near the kayak rental area. We noticed upon arriving and leaving the park two distinct flocks of Snow Buntings. ( some in fine plumage ) The first flock was at the 1/2 mile marker and consisted of 30 birds. The Second was in the area of the beach and comfort station at the main parking lot and was about 25 birds. On the road leaving the park ( at about the 1 mile marker ) there were many White-throated Sparrows DE Juncos. BTW: No one showed up for the field trip. Linda I decided to lead it anyway for ourselves. It was a glorious day out there. Windy, but not too cold. Watching the creatures around us we thought of the cold times ahead for many of then and the constant search for food and shelter. Somehow they carry on, sometimes the better partners in life of even our own human sprit. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
On the North Fork of Long Island we have had abundant Seaside Goldenrod, but a real scarcity of Monarchs feeding and resting on them. Last year the Monarchs arrived while the Goldenrod was not quite blooming; this year the Goldenrod is waiting but devoid of Monarchs.We miss them fluttering off Long Island Sound and streaming along the beaches . We actually had a Monarch caterpillar on a milkweed in our yard a couple of weeks ago, but he was gone the next day. At present we are in southern Vermont and Monarchs have also been absent here. Could the spring storms have wiped out a whole northbound population? Hope next year will be better. On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Ann Mitchell wrote: We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers. We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned them in a report. It was spectacular! Hope there are still enough trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off year.?? Ann Mitchell Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal wrote: at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' "Postings" from anywhere in the eastern half of the US. On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo wrote: Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
On the North Fork of Long Island we have had abundant Seaside Goldenrod, but a real scarcity of Monarchs feeding and resting on them. Last year the Monarchs arrived while the Goldenrod was not quite blooming; this year the Goldenrod is waiting but devoid of Monarchs.We miss them fluttering off Long Island Sound and streaming along the beaches . We actually had a Monarch caterpillar on a milkweed in our yard a couple of weeks ago, but he was gone the next day. At present we are in southern Vermont and Monarchs have also been absent here. Could the spring storms have wiped out a whole northbound population? Hope next year will be better. On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Ann Mitchell wrote: We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers. We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned them in a report. It was spectacular! Hope there are still enough trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off year.?? Ann Mitchell Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com wrote: at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' Postings from anywhere in the eastern half of the US. On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo peterpri...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] pipits
Rick and I were in the same location around noon and saw a remnant group of Pipits there. They soon took off and flew toward the westward tree line. There was a large flock of Horned Lark south of there on the east side of a Depot Lane sod field, Cutchogue. Several Snow Buntings were mixed in with them. They all took off and flew north across Oregon Road. Yesterday a friend spotted two Lapland Longspurs feeding with this flock as well. On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:21 PM, MICHAEL HIGGISTON wrote: an addendum to my earlier posting; large flock of pipits were found around 10:30 this morning on the west side of Duck Pond Road, north of Oregon Road, in Riverhead. Mike Higgiston -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] pipits
Rick and I were in the same location around noon and saw a remnant group of Pipits there. They soon took off and flew toward the westward tree line. There was a large flock of Horned Lark south of there on the east side of a Depot Lane sod field, Cutchogue. Several Snow Buntings were mixed in with them. They all took off and flew north across Oregon Road. Yesterday a friend spotted two Lapland Longspurs feeding with this flock as well. On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:21 PM, MICHAEL HIGGISTON wrote: an addendum to my earlier posting; large flock of pipits were found around 10:30 this morning on the west side of Duck Pond Road, north of Oregon Road, in Riverhead. Mike Higgiston -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Virginia's seen 12:30 PM
Luckily we finally got a good look - briefly - at the V-bird within walking distance of our apt. APP 12:30 Pm Just west of the Kettle toward 76th Ave, headed into the brushy area between Nutmeg Meadow and 76th. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Virginia's seen 12:30 PM
Luckily we finally got a good look - briefly - at the V-bird within walking distance of our apt. APP 12:30 Pm Just west of the Kettle toward 76th Ave, headed into the brushy area between Nutmeg Meadow and 76th. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Merganser Bonanza
Goldsmith's Inlet inner pond 3-12-12 About 8:45 this morning at very low tide Linda & I observed RB Merganser behavior we cannot recall seeing before. There was a school of fish trapped in the inlet pond and a group of RB Mergansers had them rounded up along the shoreline. About 15 birds, all working as a group, had a great breakfast of small fish. The main hunting group of about 10 birds kept diving and attacking the fish. Fish were jumping all over trying to escape. Meanwhile about 5 Mergansers would half fly, half skid along the water and land with their breasts first, causing big waves around the perimeter of the fish school. In this way they kept the fish penned in close to the shore. The Mergansers would take turns being the ones on the perimeter while others ate in the middle. Eventually after about 15 minutes the fish did get out into the middle of the inlet pond and the Mergansers stopped their organized tactics and went back to the usual individual diving. It was pretty cool while it lasted. Even Mollie, our dog was watching. Also seen was a mixed flock of C Wren, Song Sparrow, White-throated Sparrow & DE Junco all foraging on the lawn of an unused summer home. The Mockingbirds were really quite busy chasing each other around as well. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Flicker Fun
Henry's Lane, Peconic 3-12-12 Interesting bird behavior. In a tree in the woods of Peconic Land Trust Property a male and female N Flicker told us it is officially Spring no matter what the calendar may say. The two Flickers on the same branch about 4 feet apart would just stare at each other and not move. Then at some unseen signal they would both bust forth in a ritualized display of tail spreading, heads & necks up and bobbing along with some vocalization that sounded like half clucking and half a pet's squeeze toy. Reminded me of seeing films of the Bauer Bird display. They would do this for about 5 to 10 seconds and then go back to staring at each other. The staring would continue for about 30-60 seconds and then the display would begin again. Each time they would get a little closer to each other and after about 20 minutes they were right next to each other touching during the display. The female then turned around to allow the male to mate with her but nothing happened. This lasted another 10 minutes after which the female fly away. After 5 minutes alone on the branch the male flew away. The whole episode lasted over a half hour. I took a short video of the display. Since no actual mating occurred perhaps this sort of pre nuptial display goes on for a few days of weeks. Does anyone have any knowledge of N Flicker behavior ? Well as I like to point out: "All birders are blessed when we can see nature and gain an insight into the ebb and flow of life that is happening all around us constantly. Much of what humanity cares for, or is only aware of, is the self created artificial world around them." Rick Kedenburg, © 2012 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Flicker Fun
Henry's Lane, Peconic 3-12-12 Interesting bird behavior. In a tree in the woods of Peconic Land Trust Property a male and female N Flicker told us it is officially Spring no matter what the calendar may say. The two Flickers on the same branch about 4 feet apart would just stare at each other and not move. Then at some unseen signal they would both bust forth in a ritualized display of tail spreading, heads necks up and bobbing along with some vocalization that sounded like half clucking and half a pet's squeeze toy. Reminded me of seeing films of the Bauer Bird display. They would do this for about 5 to 10 seconds and then go back to staring at each other. The staring would continue for about 30-60 seconds and then the display would begin again. Each time they would get a little closer to each other and after about 20 minutes they were right next to each other touching during the display. The female then turned around to allow the male to mate with her but nothing happened. This lasted another 10 minutes after which the female fly away. After 5 minutes alone on the branch the male flew away. The whole episode lasted over a half hour. I took a short video of the display. Since no actual mating occurred perhaps this sort of pre nuptial display goes on for a few days of weeks. Does anyone have any knowledge of N Flicker behavior ? Well as I like to point out: All birders are blessed when we can see nature and gain an insight into the ebb and flow of life that is happening all around us constantly. Much of what humanity cares for, or is only aware of, is the self created artificial world around them. Rick Kedenburg, © 2012 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Merganser Bonanza
Goldsmith's Inlet inner pond 3-12-12 About 8:45 this morning at very low tide Linda I observed RB Merganser behavior we cannot recall seeing before. There was a school of fish trapped in the inlet pond and a group of RB Mergansers had them rounded up along the shoreline. About 15 birds, all working as a group, had a great breakfast of small fish. The main hunting group of about 10 birds kept diving and attacking the fish. Fish were jumping all over trying to escape. Meanwhile about 5 Mergansers would half fly, half skid along the water and land with their breasts first, causing big waves around the perimeter of the fish school. In this way they kept the fish penned in close to the shore. The Mergansers would take turns being the ones on the perimeter while others ate in the middle. Eventually after about 15 minutes the fish did get out into the middle of the inlet pond and the Mergansers stopped their organized tactics and went back to the usual individual diving. It was pretty cool while it lasted. Even Mollie, our dog was watching. Also seen was a mixed flock of C Wren, Song Sparrow, White-throated Sparrow DE Junco all foraging on the lawn of an unused summer home. The Mockingbirds were really quite busy chasing each other around as well. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] hummer at feeder
We don't find this interesting or unusual. Linda & I have feeders here on the North Fork of LI and get breeding RT Hummingbirds every year that nest nearby. We also get them at our feeders in Vermont. If you have seen a rarity I would be interested in seeing it in my INBOX. There are many breeding RT Hummingbirds throughout the State of NY and New England. Thank you Andrew but let's maintain a brevity by limiting our reporting to facts that are interesting to us all. Regards, Rick On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Block wrote: For the second time in three days I had a female Ruby-throated Hummingbird join the male Baltimore Oriole and catbirds at the feeders. I was very surprised since they don't breed around where I live and they should've been through by now. I guess it's just a late migrant north. Pretty neat. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist/Wildlife Biologist 37 Tanglewylde Avenue Bronxville, Westchester Co., New York 10708-3131 Phone: 914-337-1229; Fax: 914-771-8036 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- Rick & Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] hummer at feeder
We don't find this interesting or unusual. Linda I have feeders here on the North Fork of LI and get breeding RT Hummingbirds every year that nest nearby. We also get them at our feeders in Vermont. If you have seen a rarity I would be interested in seeing it in my INBOX. There are many breeding RT Hummingbirds throughout the State of NY and New England. Thank you Andrew but let's maintain a brevity by limiting our reporting to facts that are interesting to us all. Regards, Rick On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Block wrote: For the second time in three days I had a female Ruby-throated Hummingbird join the male Baltimore Oriole and catbirds at the feeders. I was very surprised since they don't breed around where I live and they should've been through by now. I guess it's just a late migrant north. Pretty neat. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist/Wildlife Biologist 37 Tanglewylde Avenue Bronxville, Westchester Co., New York 10708-3131 Phone: 914-337-1229; Fax: 914-771-8036 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler
Hi John, Thanks for the information. It's good to know that there are people like you and others who are aware and working on this problem. ALL NYS BIRDERS should email or contact their NYS assembly and Senate representatives to tell them that they support these respective bills. Best Regards to all Rick & Linda "never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; it's the only thing that ever has" - Margaret Mead On May 17, 2011, at 8:19 PM, redk...@optonline.net wrote: Hi Rick and Linda: The photos of the window killed Kentucky Warbler are very sad indeed. Given this, you would probably be interested to know that a number of groups (local LI Audubon chapters, Audubon NY, NYC Audubon, and American Bird Conservancy) are working with NY state legislators to develop and pass meaningful legislation to address the very significant issue of window/building bird mortality. A bill has been introduced; the Assembly bill is A. 6342 (Assemblyman Steve Englebright) and the Senate bill is S. 4204 (Senator Mark Grisanti) They are easily accessible on the Assembly or Senate websites. Any information you might have "on workers cleaning up the buildings before office workers get there" would be of great interest. I've been told that too and it would be helpful to know more about that. Please send it offline... Best, John Turner - Original Message - From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:48 am Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler To: NYS BIRDS > Cutchogue April 27th. Some of us North Fork birders got to see a > Kentucky in hand. Sadly it had crashed into the Fish Store window > during the night. The Kentucky is truly a beautiful bird. > Yes it was a sad thing to see but not more so than what happens > each > morning at such places as the glass towers of Uniondale LI. This > time of year they have workers at dawn cleaning up the bodies of > dead > birds before the office workers show up. > It's too cringing to say that birders should go there to look for > rarities, however, for scientific reasons maybe the birding > community > should be keeping records of these type of events and actual > species > numbers at selected sites for extrapolation. > Rick "The process of fine adjustment and of endless experimentation > > over long periods of time is called evolution, the result of > changes > too sudden for nature to provide for is called extinction." Roger > Caras > Subject: kentucky wabler > > April 27, 2011; found dead this am , must have hit a window on > north > side of seafood > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ > NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- Rick & Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler
Hi John, Thanks for the information. It's good to know that there are people like you and others who are aware and working on this problem. ALL NYS BIRDERS should email or contact their NYS assembly and Senate representatives to tell them that they support these respective bills. Best Regards to all Rick Linda never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; it's the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On May 17, 2011, at 8:19 PM, redk...@optonline.net wrote: Hi Rick and Linda: The photos of the window killed Kentucky Warbler are very sad indeed. Given this, you would probably be interested to know that a number of groups (local LI Audubon chapters, Audubon NY, NYC Audubon, and American Bird Conservancy) are working with NY state legislators to develop and pass meaningful legislation to address the very significant issue of window/building bird mortality. A bill has been introduced; the Assembly bill is A. 6342 (Assemblyman Steve Englebright) and the Senate bill is S. 4204 (Senator Mark Grisanti) They are easily accessible on the Assembly or Senate websites. Any information you might have on workers cleaning up the buildings before office workers get there would be of great interest. I've been told that too and it would be helpful to know more about that. Please send it offline... Best, John Turner - Original Message - From: Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:48 am Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler To: NYS BIRDS NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu Cutchogue April 27th. Some of us North Fork birders got to see a Kentucky in hand. Sadly it had crashed into the Fish Store window during the night. The Kentucky is truly a beautiful bird. Yes it was a sad thing to see but not more so than what happens each morning at such places as the glass towers of Uniondale LI. This time of year they have workers at dawn cleaning up the bodies of dead birds before the office workers show up. It's too cringing to say that birders should go there to look for rarities, however, for scientific reasons maybe the birding community should be keeping records of these type of events and actual species numbers at selected sites for extrapolation. Rick The process of fine adjustment and of endless experimentation over long periods of time is called evolution, the result of changes too sudden for nature to provide for is called extinction. Roger Caras Subject: kentucky wabler April 27, 2011; found dead this am , must have hit a window on north side of seafood -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond
I have already forwarded it to: Phishing Us Gov www.phishing- rep...@us-cert.gov For future reference this is a US Government website that specializes in international e scamming. Rick K. On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ardith Bondi wrote: This is totally a scam - just delete it! Ardith Bondi On 2/18/11 2:40 PM, richjack...@aol.com wrote: > This probably is a scam. It happened to a friend of mine last year but > luckily no one fell for it. > The best thing to do is try phoning John to see if he is at home. > > Richard ZainEldeen > Brooklyn, NY > > -Original Message- > From: John Gavrity > To: NYSBIRDS-L > Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 1:44 pm > Subject: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond > > It�s me, I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now, I > made a > little trip to Netherlands and I misplaced my luggage that contains my > passport and credit cards, I know this may sound odd, but it all > happened very fast. I need to get a new passport and a ticket, but I'm > short of funds to pay for my ticket, and other miscellaneous expense. > Please, can you lend me some funds to get a ticket? I'll be willing to > pay back as soon as I get home. > > Please respond as soon as you get this message, so I can forward > you my > details to send the funds to me, OR you can drop a message via the > hotel's desk phone if you can. The numbers are, 01131 2 0622 8607. > > I await your response > John Gavrity > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Rick & Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond
I have already forwarded it to: Phishing Us Gov www.phishing- rep...@us-cert.gov For future reference this is a US Government website that specializes in international e scamming. Rick K. On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ardith Bondi wrote: This is totally a scam - just delete it! Ardith Bondi On 2/18/11 2:40 PM, richjack...@aol.com wrote: This probably is a scam. It happened to a friend of mine last year but luckily no one fell for it. The best thing to do is try phoning John to see if he is at home. Richard ZainEldeen Brooklyn, NY -Original Message- From: John Gavrityjgav...@gmail.com To: NYSBIRDS-LNYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 1:44 pm Subject: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond It�s me, I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now, I made a little trip to Netherlands and I misplaced my luggage that contains my passport and credit cards, I know this may sound odd, but it all happened very fast. I need to get a new passport and a ticket, but I'm short of funds to pay for my ticket, and other miscellaneous expense. Please, can you lend me some funds to get a ticket? I'll be willing to pay back as soon as I get home. Please respond as soon as you get this message, so I can forward you my details to send the funds to me, OR you can drop a message via the hotel's desk phone if you can. The numbers are, 01131 2 0622 8607. I await your response John Gavrity -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] OSPREY - Cutchogue NY
02-12-11 10:45 AM OSPREY ON PLATFORM JUST EAST OF MOUTH OF DOWNS CREEK Cutchogue Long Island The bird was seen while we were leading a group 12 people for a North Fork Audubon Society field trip. Good looks through our spotting scope. This is the earliest Linda and I have seen an OSPREY anywhere on LONG ISLAND ! Let's hope this mean the Groundhog is correct. We named him Abe in honor of our 16th President born on this date. Rick & Linda Kedenburg Peconic NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] OSPREY - Cutchogue NY
02-12-11 10:45 AM OSPREY ON PLATFORM JUST EAST OF MOUTH OF DOWNS CREEK Cutchogue Long Island The bird was seen while we were leading a group 12 people for a North Fork Audubon Society field trip. Good looks through our spotting scope. This is the earliest Linda and I have seen an OSPREY anywhere on LONG ISLAND ! Let's hope this mean the Groundhog is correct. We named him Abe in honor of our 16th President born on this date. Rick Linda Kedenburg Peconic NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
