Re:[nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-05 Thread Robert Lewis 
I too have never seen a (North American) Great Cormorant with this much white, 
but it makes sense that that's what is was.  We call it "Great Cormorant", the 
British call is "Cormorant", but it's the same species, phalacrocorax carbo.  
One or two of the European races definitely do show this much white as 
immatures, even adults.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY



--- On Sat, 1/5/13, John Gluth  wrote:

> From: John Gluth 
> Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County
> To: "NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts" 
> Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 12:05 AM
> I guess it's the nature of we
> birder's to want to turn a poorly seen and/or seemingly out
> of the ordinary bird into a rarity. But while John Haas' 
> self-described poor quality photos ARE distant, blurry, and
> overly contrasty, they are not so bad as to rule out the
> most probable identification—
> Great Cormorant—which he himself thought the most likely
> ID. The photos of immature Great Cormorants on this site: 
> http://tinyurl.com/a3676jx 
> show first-year birds with just as much white on the face,
> neck and underparts as the bird in Rye.
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-05 Thread Robert Lewis 
I too have never seen a (North American) Great Cormorant with this much white, 
but it makes sense that that's what is was.  We call it Great Cormorant, the 
British call is Cormorant, but it's the same species, phalacrocorax carbo.  
One or two of the European races definitely do show this much white as 
immatures, even adults.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY



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 From: John Gluth jgl...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County
 To: NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
 Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 12:05 AM
 I guess it's the nature of we
 birder's to want to turn a poorly seen and/or seemingly out
 of the ordinary bird into a rarity. But while John Haas' 
 self-described poor quality photos ARE distant, blurry, and
 overly contrasty, they are not so bad as to rule out the
 most probable identification—
 Great Cormorant—which he himself thought the most likely
 ID. The photos of immature Great Cormorants on this site: 
 http://tinyurl.com/a3676jx 
 show first-year birds with just as much white on the face,
 neck and underparts as the bird in Rye.
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-04 Thread John Gluth 
I guess it's the nature of we birder's to want to turn a poorly seen and/or 
seemingly out of the ordinary bird into a rarity. But while John Haas' 
self-described poor quality photos ARE distant, blurry, and overly contrasty, 
they are not so bad as to rule out the most probable identification—
Great Cormorant—which he himself thought the most likely ID. The photos of 
immature Great Cormorants on this site: http://tinyurl.com/a3676jx 
show first-year birds with just as much white on the face, neck and underparts 
as the bird in Rye.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-04 Thread Joel Horman 
If this is not a wildly aberrant plumage, I would have to say that these 
photos most resemble a species I saw off Ushuaia, the southern tip of 
Argentina, the Imperial Shag, which would be quite remarkable. But with 
birds, nothing is impossible. ( I do have some photos if anyone has an 
interest in seeing them.)

Joel Horman,
Ridge, NY
On 1/4/13 9:28 PM, vanh...@citlink.net wrote:
> Today I birded Westchester County.  While scanning the beach and rocks 
> at Rye Town Park I spotted an unusual cormorant on the rocks.  The 
> bird had an entirely white belly, throat, and chin.  A defined line 
> demarked the face, causing a black cap and white chin. The 
> bill appeared thin.  My first thought was Great Cormorant, but I'm not 
> really sure about that.  The bird remained on the rocks for the 
> duration of my stay.  If anyone has any input as to the identity of 
> this bird I would appreciate the input.  I have never seen a cormorant 
> that resembled this bird.  The less than stellar photos can be found 
> on my blog at http://bashakillbirder.wordpress.com John Haas
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-04 Thread Robert Lewis 
Interesting photos of the cormorant.  I am no expert on cormorants, but it 
seems to strongly resemble a race of the European Cormorant, phalacrocorax 
carbo sinensis, or maybe maroccanus. 
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

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From: vanh...@citlink.net 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County
To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 9:28 PM

Today I birded Westchester County.  While scanning the beach and rocks at Rye 
Town Park I spotted an unusual cormorant on the rocks.  The bird had an 
entirely white belly, throat, and chin.  A defined line demarked the face, 
causing a black cap and white chin. The bill appeared thin.  My first thought 
was Great Cormorant, but I'm not really sure about that.  The bird remained on 
the rocks for the duration of my stay.  If anyone has any input as to the 
identity of this bird I would appreciate the input.  I have never seen a 
cormorant that resembled this bird.  The less than stellar photos can be found 
on my blog at http://bashakillbirder.wordpress.com  John Haas
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-04 Thread Robert Lewis 
Interesting photos of the cormorant.  I am no expert on cormorants, but it 
seems to strongly resemble a race of the European Cormorant, phalacrocorax 
carbo sinensis, or maybe maroccanus. 
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

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From: vanh...@citlink.net vanh...@citlink.net
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County
To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 9:28 PM

Today I birded Westchester County.  While scanning the beach and rocks at Rye 
Town Park I spotted an unusual cormorant on the rocks.  The bird had an 
entirely white belly, throat, and chin.  A defined line demarked the face, 
causing a black cap and white chin. The bill appeared thin.  My first thought 
was Great Cormorant, but I'm not really sure about that.  The bird remained on 
the rocks for the duration of my stay.  If anyone has any input as to the 
identity of this bird I would appreciate the input.  I have never seen a 
cormorant that resembled this bird.  The less than stellar photos can be found 
on my blog at http://bashakillbirder.wordpress.com  John Haas
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-04 Thread Joel Horman 
If this is not a wildly aberrant plumage, I would have to say that these 
photos most resemble a species I saw off Ushuaia, the southern tip of 
Argentina, the Imperial Shag, which would be quite remarkable. But with 
birds, nothing is impossible. ( I do have some photos if anyone has an 
interest in seeing them.)

Joel Horman,
Ridge, NY
On 1/4/13 9:28 PM, vanh...@citlink.net wrote:
 Today I birded Westchester County.  While scanning the beach and rocks 
 at Rye Town Park I spotted an unusual cormorant on the rocks.  The 
 bird had an entirely white belly, throat, and chin.  A defined line 
 demarked the face, causing a black cap and white chin. The 
 bill appeared thin.  My first thought was Great Cormorant, but I'm not 
 really sure about that.  The bird remained on the rocks for the 
 duration of my stay.  If anyone has any input as to the identity of 
 this bird I would appreciate the input.  I have never seen a cormorant 
 that resembled this bird.  The less than stellar photos can be found 
 on my blog at http://bashakillbirder.wordpress.com John Haas

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Re:[nysbirds-l] Unusual Cormorant at Rye Beach, Westchester County

2013-01-04 Thread John Gluth 
I guess it's the nature of we birder's to want to turn a poorly seen and/or 
seemingly out of the ordinary bird into a rarity. But while John Haas' 
self-described poor quality photos ARE distant, blurry, and overly contrasty, 
they are not so bad as to rule out the most probable identification—
Great Cormorant—which he himself thought the most likely ID. The photos of 
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