Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-24 Thread AJIT ANTONY
Hi NY birders. I run the Mearns Bird Club io website/ listserv which is open to all birders, not only members of the Mearns Bird Club. Years ago I created "Birding Sites in Orange County and Environs" for our club members, which is on the Database section of the io website that casual

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-24 Thread AJIT ANTONY
Hi NY birders. I run the Mearns Bird Club io website/ listserv which is open to all birders, not only members of the Mearns Bird Club. Years ago I created "Birding Sites in Orange County and Environs" for our club members, which is on the Database section of the io website that casual

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Robert Lewis
There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone to know? Bob Lewis Sleepy Hollow NY On Sunday, August 23,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Robert Lewis
There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone to know? Bob Lewis Sleepy Hollow NY On Sunday, August 23,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin
Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin
Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread AJIT ANTONY
You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty Lane.Ajit I Antony, MDCornwall On HudsonETA Mearns Bird Club-Original Message- From: Joshua Malbin Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM To: Phil Jeffrey Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread AJIT ANTONY
You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty Lane.Ajit I Antony, MDCornwall On HudsonETA Mearns Bird Club-Original Message- From: Joshua Malbin Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM To: Phil Jeffrey Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Felipe Pimentel
Hi Joshua, You can try Skinner lane (sod farms) for migrating shorebirds in September. The area that has been closed to birders in the one between R12 and the bridge that cross the river. There are other “private roads” in the area of Pine Island and Florida where birding is “tolerated” but

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Felipe Pimentel
Hi Joshua, You can try Skinner lane (sod farms) for migrating shorebirds in September. The area that has been closed to birders in the one between R12 and the bridge that cross the river. There are other “private roads” in the area of Pine Island and Florida where birding is “tolerated” but

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin
Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, etc.? On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey wrote: > The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here > > The simplest idea -

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin
Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, etc.? On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey wrote: > The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here > > The simplest idea -

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey
The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or "closed to birders" Phil Heffrey On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey
The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or "closed to birders" Phil Heffrey On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY

[nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread AJIT ANTONY
To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange County, NY. Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows that he does not want

[nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread AJIT ANTONY
To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange County, NY. Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows that he does not want