RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
:57 AM To: Grover, Bob; Hugh McGuinness; Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike Sure, and the correct ID has been found because the specimen still existed to be examined. Check out http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Wilson/v065n01

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:34 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; Hugh McGuinness; Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike I know I risk excoriation here, but has a museum study skin never been misidentified? Bob Grover From: bounce

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Grover, Bob
Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike Funny, but I was going to ask about this shrike yesterday to see if anyone had taken a long hard look at it. I saw another photo and I just can't make it into a Northern Shrike. I have put some

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Veit
From: Angus Wilson To: NYSBIRDS-L Cc: Shaibal Mitra ; "Burke, Tom" ; Hugh McGuinness ; Christopher Wood ; Andy Guthrie ; Kevin McGowan Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike It seems appropriate to throw one

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread grosb...@clarityconnect.com
Hello, I agree Angus' bird is a good Northern, but the bird that Shai posted is interesting!! I leaned slightly towards a small Northern with the Jones beach bird, but admit there's some conflicting characteristics present. Color of bill, lack of barring on the back, look of mask (this trait is

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Jeffrey
My own shots of the Shrike, showing some detail: http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jeffrey/5198713710/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jeffrey/5198713688/ Phil Jeffrey -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
; Hugh McGuinness; Christopher Wood; Andy Guthrie; Kevin J. McGowan Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike It seems appropriate to throw one more bird into the discussion mix; a shrike that I found on 31 Oct 2010 in the Theodore Roosevelt County Park in Montauk (Suffolk Co.), a few

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Angus Wilson
It seems appropriate to throw one more bird into the discussion mix; a shrike that I found on 31 Oct 2010 in the Theodore Roosevelt County Park in Montauk (Suffolk Co.), a few hundred yards from a Brewer's Blackbird. If I recall correctly, this was shortly after the discovery of the Jones Beach

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Hugh McGuinness Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:43 AM To: Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike Just to add some other images, here are some photos of Loggerhead Shrike photo showing

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Hugh McGuinness
Just to add some other images, here are some photos of Loggerhead Shrike photo showing vermiculations http://www.beachhunter.net/blog/2008/04/wherefore-art-thou-loggerhead.html http://sdakotabirds.com/species/loggerhead_shrike_info.htm And here is Kevin McGowan's pretty excellent review of the

RE:[nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
I forgot to include links to photos. Here are a few of my own, with a couple of Northern Shrike shots for comparison: http://picasaweb.google.com/tixbirdz/LongIslandMiscellany2010# Here are some from John Gluth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgluth_brb/sets/72157625379326695/with/5212944549/

RE:[nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
I forgot to include links to photos. Here are a few of my own, with a couple of Northern Shrike shots for comparison: http://picasaweb.google.com/tixbirdz/LongIslandMiscellany2010# Here are some from John Gluth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgluth_brb/sets/72157625379326695/with/5212944549/

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Hugh McGuinness Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:43 AM To: Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike Just to add some other images, here are some photos of Loggerhead Shrike photo showing

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
; Hugh McGuinness; Christopher Wood; Andy Guthrie; Kevin J. McGowan Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike It seems appropriate to throw one more bird into the discussion mix; a shrike that I found on 31 Oct 2010 in the Theodore Roosevelt County Park in Montauk (Suffolk Co.), a few

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread grosb...@clarityconnect.com
Hello, I agree Angus' bird is a good Northern, but the bird that Shai posted is interesting!! I leaned slightly towards a small Northern with the Jones beach bird, but admit there's some conflicting characteristics present. Color of bill, lack of barring on the back, look of mask (this trait is

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:34 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; Hugh McGuinness; Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike I know I risk excoriation here, but has a museum study skin never been misidentified? Bob Grover From: bounce

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Shaibal Mitra
:57 AM To: Grover, Bob; Hugh McGuinness; Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike Sure, and the correct ID has been found because the specimen still existed to be examined. Check out http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Wilson/v065n01

Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Angus Wilson
It seems appropriate to throw one more bird into the discussion mix; a shrike that I found on 31 Oct 2010 in the Theodore Roosevelt County Park in Montauk (Suffolk Co.), a few hundred yards from a Brewer's Blackbird. If I recall correctly, this was shortly after the discovery of the Jones Beach

RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike

2010-12-01 Thread Grover, Bob
Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike Funny, but I was going to ask about this shrike yesterday to see if anyone had taken a long hard look at it. I saw another photo and I just can't make it into a Northern Shrike. I have put some